Borlaug

Aristotle.

Tyran, do you want to reconsider what you posted or do I have your permission to slap you across the face?

Borlaug.

Aristotle.

Aristotle

Borlaug.

Aristotel.

Bo slap away. From what I read of him that's the extent

He shaped pretty much everything about modern agriculture, actually.

First of all, +1 Tr.

Second of all, as bad and unnatural as the Haber Process is, the fact of the matter is that we discovered it and Borlaug's work showed one of the ways that it has the potential to be used for the good of humanity. Whether that's good for the world - well, no, it's not, but I don't support a cull, so feeding the people that we have is essential, and that's what modern agriculture is all about.

Third of all, your words are insensitive and tasteless at best. This is what you said:

"Feeding poor people in 3rd world nations doesn't strike me as overly affecting the course of human history."

Do you actually think that saving a billion lives is unimportant in the course of *human* (read as "people," not white Westerners) history? Is Aristotle somehow greater in the course of human history because he wrote down a bunch of cool stuff - that, by all means, he is deserving of a fuck ton of credit for - than Borlaug, whose work is both practical (it feeds you too, not just those damned poor people in the part of the world too depressing for you to bother thinking about, and if you have any stake in the agriculture industry, it provides you your livelihood) and insanely impactful?

Your idea of "human" is appalling, insensitive, tasteless, and utterly terrible if you don't think that "poor people in third world nations" isn't "overly affecting" human history, as if to say that they have little right to consider themselves a part of human history in the first place.

Here you go.

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Aristotle

Also, I will forever think of Tyran with that face now.

Borlaug

Aristotle was a poop who set bad precedents for Galileo. He's poopy poop poop poop. (Glad we're all mature here guys)

I'm simply saying that the majority of people currently living in the slums of China, India, Brazil and countless other countries will never contribute to the world as a whole. Also the nations of Laos, Chad, Bolivia, Latvia, and Belize will probably never effect world history much. I'm not saying let them starve but feeding the masses of impoverished nations so they can pump out more children into a diseased overcrowded nation with many problems that will never be solved without massive amounts of work is not on par with Aristotle.

JY I believe the term your looking for is Egypt.

Inside joke not pertaining to the actual country^

The coffee you drink, the chocolate you eat, the bread you consume, all cultivated using Borlaug's work.

I don't drink coffee or eat chocolate but I did have a sandwich yesterday. I had never heard of him before this thread tbh so I think Aristotle is still more important

Anything you consume that comes from a plant, then, is cultivated by his work. Also, agriculture companies like Monsanto, which have incredible lobby power in major countries like the US, wouldn't exist without Borlaug. His work also employs most people in the third world, where most of your food is grown anyway so saying that they don't have an impact on the world is a bit ignorant.

"I'm simply saying that the majority of people currently living in the slums of China, India, Brazil and countless other countries will never contribute to the world as a whole."

You're not entirely wrong, but this is such a massive generalization that there is absolutely no way you can back up such an assertion. Figure out what you actually mean.

Borlaug changed the way a lot of people are able to subsist in the world today. Aristotle shaped the way that western civilization conceived of literature, politics and science. Borlaug's influence is substantial on a practical level.

Aristotle's influence is incalculable. He should be in the final.

Going with Borlaug. No one can read Aristotle who is starving to death.

Aristotle. No. possible. alternative.

His pervasive influence is in every single sphere and, bo, the spread of his thought throughout any country touched by the West or Islam is undeniable. Aristotle was the pretty much the founder of empirical sciences, though the scientific method can be more properly be attributed to Muslim scholars, refined by the enlightenment scientist-philosophers, both developed this from Aristotle's teachings.

Incidentally Aristotle was often termed the First Teacher. Greek texts were translated into Arabic, studied and adopted by Islamic scholars and the survival and transmission of his thought to Christian Europe allowed Aristotelianism to first survive, then flourish in the Renaissance.

Aristotle, but I think Einstein will/should beat whichever candidate advances here.

These two are fundamentally different people. One is an ancient philosopher, the other is a modern food scientist. There is nothing we can compare them on. Borlaug is ridiculously impressive, while Aristotle is one of the few "universal" well-known greek philosophers I like. Aristotle is partly responsible for science in Alexandria, and was a root for the later Arab scientific revolution, and consequently, the European scientific revolution. How much of this is his influence? Not too much, but still pretty impressive. On the other hand, Borlaug is just such a great person, I have to abstain.

Aristotle. But do appreciate the information on Borlaug.

Borlaug

only one possible way to answer:

Borlaug (White, Nordic, not from the third world ---> so he surely contributed to the world as a whole)

The alternative instead: brownish skin, Mediterranean, from the only 3rd World country in the EU ––> can't possibly contribute to the world as a whole. Won't even bother to read his name.

vote therefore: Borlaug