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And Prado, you can't assign the 'abolition of feudalism' to Napoleon, who installed his family all over Europe as feudal leaders. French scientists were responsible for French science not Napoleon; he wanted the reflected glory of science - his most direct contribution to archaeology was to loot Egypt and let his soldiers use the fucking Sphinx for target practice. The founding of Germany should be ascribed to Bismarck: I'm fed up with the subsumption of other people's achievements into the Legend of Napoleon.

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I actually can. It was kind of a policy he implemented in Europe. There was also the bit about how peasants became soldiers, which was by far a different occupation, and feudalism kind of relies on peasants. And the metric system, which Napoleon standardized across Europe, has been very much instilled into the sciences. And Bismarck established the German STATE, not the German NATION. The terms are very different. Napoleon is responsible for the latter. He gave them a common experience that led them to want to become a single people and throw off their "oppressors."

On what grounds?

On what grounds what?

Octavian

Augustus

Augustus, but I would like to thank TrPrado for giving me more reasons to dislike Boney

@ch I can't follow your argument. Enlighten me about what feudalism is (according to you)? Augustus didn't even manage so much as did Napoleon. He even failed tat funding Cauchy or Laplace…

You enjoy serfdom?

The Corsican Ogre imprisoned my ancesters, not freed them.

@TP "on what grounds" was directed to Thucy's argument about crediting everything Roman to Augustus.

thats because your shitty ancestors fought for the conservatives and royalists, j/s

not that my ancestors are not also english, but still. i never said my ancestors weren't shitty

@oct I thought you were British. As far as I'm informed, l'Héro never imprisoned the British.

I believe he means peasants. The soldiers of Napoleon didn't feel imprisoned, they were very devoted to him.

Whilst the chief Crapaud may well have avoided imprisoning British soldiers (I really have no idea), it was not them I was thinking of but British civilians who happened to be living in France. I have French ancestors too... but don't talk about them for obvious reasons ;).

They were less devoted when they were freezing to death in Russia, I feel. Maybe they were more fond of him when he let them rape and pillage their way through Spain

for the record i am not defending the Tyrant Napoléon

however that scarcely makes the side of wellington squeaky clean

Well, as far as I'm informed no British person was imprisoned for being British under le Grand Empéreur. If your ancestors were imprisoned for committing serious offenses, I have to reject your argument as too weak.

"They were less devoted when they were freezing to death in Russia, I feel." Then they should blame the Russians. Napoleon did plan to keep them warm, but the Russians ruined that.

Not at all, but he did hang thieves and rapists in the British army. Makes him quite the progressive, relatively speaking.

And abolishing feudalism isn't progressive?

X3n0n, pretty (read: almost entirely) sure Thucy's troll voting, so I doubt you'll get an actual justification.

Napoleon took the flames of freedom and pissed all over them. One step forward, two steps back. If a frog hops from an absolute monarchy into a military dictatorship can you really claim he is better off? The only opportunities Napoleon offered the common man was to be shot and killed by new and interesting people from across the world.

And to spread smallpox.

Oh yeah. Octavian.