Can someone please adjudicate?

Franklin receives a -5 penalty for suggesting turkeys would be a good national image.

-50 to Commander Byron for stating a myth proven false as fact.

Oh and Franklin.

Buddha won, and someone needs to adjudicate.

Franklin

Buddha still has the win, and no one has adjudicated. I was busy all day yesterday, and this is what happened to the thread.

Bump

So it's come to this? Having to actually bump it with a post that says "Bump." Guys, I'm not the only person capable of adjudicating this tournament. Honestly, most of the work is copying and pasting.

I'll adjudicate all the votes with proper syntax (e.g. ##VOTE bo_sox48).

Buddha: 0
Benjamin Franklin: 1

Ben advances!

Buddha: 15
Franklin: 11

After several days of silence and reflection, Buddha is moving on.

Remaining Historical Figures:

Leaders:
10. Augustus
19. Napoleon Bonaparte
*24. Alexander the Great

Artists:
26. William Shakespeare
27. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
*28. Johann Sebastian Bach

Scientists/Inventors:
6. Aristotle
10. Norman Borlaug
*13. Albert Einstein

Wild Card:
*1. Buddha
10. Jesus
11. Rene Descartes

New Matchup:

Leaders: Augustus vs Napoleon Bonaparte

Note: Vash needs to update the brackets:
http://challonge.com/webDipGreatestLeaderBrackett
http://challonge.com/webDipGreatestArtistBrackett
http://challonge.com/webDipGreatestScientistBrackett
http://challonge.com/webDipGreatestWildCardBrackett

napoleon

napoléon le grand

Napoleon

Augustus

Augustus.

Tough, tough call. But Augustus sneaks it

@Pete U: could provide some arguments on why Oct rather than the Empéreur sneaks it?

Napoleon

Augustus.

Napoleon, Emperor Goodpart. For his brilliant rise in the politics of a different country and people, for his quelling of the terror of the French Revolution, for the French Empire, for the metric system, for the abolition of feudalism, for Germany, for his vast and virtually unstoppable military campaigns, for making an invasion of Russia that managed to get all the way to Moscow before failing, for requiring a full coalition of all his powerful neighbors and then some to be defeated, for the events at Elba, for being welcomed back on the spot of return to France as emperor (Vive L'Empereur!) for being so feared a politician that the British had to keep him on as remote an island as they could while still watching him carefully while he was there in case he somehow manufactured an escape.

Oh, and for doubling the size of the United States.

@X3n0n: the whole 'not losing' thing is what wins. For all the things that TrPrado points out the fact the invasion of Russia was a massive fail, counts against him.

The Roman Empire expanded under Augustus, and lasted, in one form or another for over a millenium. And his reforms and building projects are as important to the Roman world. As I said, it was close.

I know I'm old and my brain cells are on the fritz, but I'm sure we've had this voted on before??? And as before Napoleon was a brilliant general, but destroyed France's economy for fifty years; his idea of economics was Loot and Blunder, ripping money out of his enemies in order to fund standing armies in occupied countries. AND he LOST. Contrast this with Augustus who was a good general, but a brilliant strategist, he stabilised both Rome and the Empire, playing a deep political game that split the provinces between the Emperor and the Senate, effectively suborning the patricians with power and gold whilst acclimating them to the subordination of the Senate to the Empire (partly be extending citizenship). He was also an excellent speaker and jurist. Varus' intemperate stupidity is the only blot on his escutcheon.

Augustus, Princeps Civitatis

augustus was more important than napoleon. napoleon was important in that he gave teeth to the enlightenment in a way the american revolution did not, but its hard to beat out the influence of rome

so, i vote augustus

Invasion of Russia, as I've said pretty much EVERY round, is not a count against Napoleon. Russian strategy was erratic and unpredictable, and always on the retreat. His loss was never his own fault, in any case where he did somehow lose (COUGH, Chumbles). And how is the metric system not important to the world, let alone science? How was the abolition of feudalism not important? And the Germans, they became a unified German people BECAUSE of Napoleon. They may not have gotten a nation-state for a while, but they, a people who as a unit accomplished very great or else impactful things, got their nation, their identity as a people, from Napoleon.

Thucy, you can't give all of Rome, or even its best bits, to Augustus.

yes i can. just did