Yes Aristotle over Turing. No one made a halfway convincing argument for Turing over Aristotle because there isn't one.

Computers and shortening World War II wasn't convincing?

Not to beat Aristotle, no.

In following with Sandman's previous vote, I vote Petyr Baelish, for tricking the fuck out of everyone in Westeros and rising from a lowly house to control the Riverlands, the Vale, and possibly the North ( thats about 3/4 of the seven kingdoms size wise. )

I find it somewhat amazing that philosophers did not get their own category in this tournament, because thinkers are some of the most important people who have ever lived. Human culture and tonight evolves through time as a kind of meta-organism, and the people who drive it forward, like Socrates, like Einstein, like Jesus, are the most important of us. To the extent that a man know Alexander or the Great Khan were important it was in the sense that they were like great cataclysms that served as catalysts for new thoughts. But little more. The greatest artists however do strongly compete with the scientists and philosophers, because they not only sometimes drive our thinking forward, but also produce work of great emotional beauty... Whose value is very difficult to overstate. They bring us closer to God.

I would absolutely endorse a Philosophers' bracket in the future. I vote we cancel this whole thing, and start all over again with that. :P

As for the time, I just used the regular closing time – I didn't really notice that it has changed, for the wrong match-up, I'm sorry, I was using the written list as a referral and so I got mistaken. I hope that with the other matchups we'll go back in line and for the finals there are no wrong matchup sequences anymore.

So... I take it that Boney vs Gus is cancelled atm; didn't we do that one before anyay?

Yes, considering a good chunk of the wild cards (and a couple of scientists like Aristotle who really don't fit there in a modern context) are philosophers, we should have had a separate bracket there. Oh well.

What's the vote today? Let's figure that out.

shoud be a whole tournament on greatest philosopher.

Huh, I'm not doing too bad in this tournament. Besides the Lizzie disaster, I have one guy in the final four, and my other two nominations lost to Einstein and Jesus, who are still in. Not too shabby.

My Leader nomination is in the Final Four. Everything else of mine lost in the first round.

We're not at the final four yet...

Two of mine are still alive, and Vergil is the real winner, so I think I'm doing pretty well.

Is it Napoleon vs. Octavian? I vote Octavian.

Vashta said it should be Alexander v FDR. If it's that, I vote Alexander without question. If it's Napoleon v Octavian, I vote Octavian.

Yes, it's Alexander vs FDR once the time actually starts up (that's what the bracket is for, go look at it). However, we still have quite some time before it starts. We're technically still on Luther vs Descartes, but I doubt Luther has any chance of winning.

Obviously not, let's just move on since that vote's been derailed anyway.

FDR

FDR

Alexander

FDR: 2
Alexander: 2

Aleksandar

Alexander

Alexander

Alexander

Alex

Well, three of my guys--FDR, Mozart, and Shakespeare (finally redeeming himself for the double loss in the Author tourney!) made it this far...now watch them all lose this round, I bet. :p

And yeah, I nominated him, but no way FDR can top Alexander the Great.

So, sorry Franklin, you had a good run (er...you know what I mean) but +1 Alexander.

Alexander

FDR. A short lived General who's entire empire collapsed into feuding states over the President who helped bring America out of the depression, into WW2, and shaped the politics of the United States and the world as we know it with his policies and decisions? No thank you.

FDR: 3
Alexander: 9