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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
I want a new game
Who wants to kick my ass?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
Challenge takeover position
gameID=149754 needs a new BC, and the players would rather replace the position than have it CD. Since the game is anonymous, please email [email protected] if you would like to take it.

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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
Quick and Easy Question
Can a fleet positioned in southern Spain move to Gascony? Or can it support a move to Gascony? Thanks!
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
01 Dec 14 UTC
Anyone for geo-engineering?
http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-30197085
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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
01 Dec 14 UTC
Fleet in the South of Spain
Can a fleet in the south of Spain move to Portugal? Can it support an invasion of Portugal from the Mid Atlantic? Thanks.
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Interstellar
I really liked this movie. Of course, the expository sections, wherein astronauts were reminded that light can't escape black holes, were goofy. But I thought it managed to treat ideas like the brevity of human life very effectively, and provocatively. I'm going to be thinking about the movie for a long time. What did you guys think of it?
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
28 Oct 14 UTC
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Interest in Tournaments (no promises)
There hasn't been many non-gunboat (or player-sponsored) tournaments lately. This thread is to gauge the interest in the site of bringing back any of the following tournaments: The World Cup, The Masters, The Leagues. The GFDT is abge's thing, so I won't ask on that.
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2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
31 Jul 14 UTC
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Gunboat SOW - Summer 2014
This is the official thread for the summer 2014 gunboat School of War. gameID=145303
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Oct 14 UTC
Spring 1907:

England - Another strong set of moves puts you in a fantastic position, with choices galore. My question to you is whether or not you prefer to play offensively and go after Berlin this phase, which is essentially guaranteed if you move from Kiel, or try to form a stronger line over the course of a couple of years by holding your position in Kiel and rearranging your fleets to protect it long-term. You still aren't a solo threat of any kind, but unless you completely collapse, you are well ahead of Germany.

France - Tough luck. At some point, I would have tried to guess at when he would break for the MAO, and spring would have been the phase to gamble. Oh well. This game went very poorly for you from the very beginning with some botched orders and some poor decisions, and as you look back on the game, hopefully you understand that, had you not made these mistakes, you probably would have been able to fend off Italy and potentially be powerful right now.

Germany - England certainly isn't giving you any breathing room, but at least you have Munich and at least Italy is far too preoccupied to challenge you in France even though you are grossly lacking in defense (that could come back to bite you soon enough). Nonetheless, you're at a heavy disadvantage against England and the odds of defeating him in this ongoing battle are slim to none. Hopefully you can hold him up for a period of time and convince him that you are a necessary piece in stopping the solo so he backs off.

Russia - About time they took St. Petersburg. Sometimes Russia just doesn't work out. I have that issue all the time. Austria outguessed you in taking Warsaw in 1902 and the dominos fell from there. Personally, I find that, all things being equal elsewhere on the map, Russia is nearly impossible to play successfully if England attacks or if Russia opens north (they have the same effect - E/R war). Case in point. I'm sure someone will disagree with that though.

Turkey - You continue to work yourself into prime solo position, but Italy is putting up a good fight. The misorder really doesn't hurt you since it wouldn't have worked anyway. You have a build coming (maybe two or even three depending on whether or not you gamble and whether or not you elect to try for Naples, but one is most likely) and you will hit that magical mark where players tend to begin to panic - 10 SCs. Something about double digits I guess. My recommendation to you is to discuss thoroughly with your TA exactly where the stalemate lines are that you need to cross in order to solo and try to reach them before England, Germany, and Italy (and maybe Austria too) reconcile with one another and create a resistance that holds you up at 16 or 17 centers.

Italy - Not a bad decision to go for the Adriatic. You may have the opportunity to build this year, which is something you've been waiting on for some time, assuming that Turkey doesn't take Naples. You could also force him to disband that fleet, which would essentially leave him in the same position he was a year ago, though with less defense of Tunis. You have your work cut out for you but you put yourself in the best possible position given the situation you're in during the phase, something you need to replicate for the next couple of years in order to have a chance.

Austria - I'm finding it odd that you took Ukraine from Galicia. I find Germany's moves this phase largely predictable and it was highly likely that you were going to lose Munich and get blocked out of Berlin, so why not assume you could block Russia out of Warsaw with Silesia and have a little bit more of a defense against Turkey? Vienna is a semi-stalemate, and with a strong defense, it would take him quite awhile to reach it. Instead, you'll be down to 2 centers either this year if Turkey takes a huge gamble or next.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
09 Oct 14 UTC
Spring 07 thoughts

Austria - no surprise that you couldn't hold Mun. I don't like the move to Ukr and giving up on Bud so early. Now your forces are splintered and out of position and you almost certainly will lose 2 centers and could even lose 3 this year if Turkey is so inclined. Maybe England will help you hold Mos for a while as a thank you for the damage you did to Germany by taking Mun. Even if he does though I think your days are numbered at this point. Once Turkey finishes off Vie it will just be too hard for you to keep him from taking War soon thereafter unless England throws everything into helping you (and if he sends that many units there he may as well just take Mos and/or War himself).

England - great turn for you. Austria taking Mun was a huge help to you and very costly to Germany and I think on balance a net negative for Austria himself long term. The bounce in Ber means that Kie has nowhere to retreat to, so the even better news for you is that Germany will only have 3 units to throw at Kie and only 1 of them can reach Ber. So you'll have your choice of holding Kie or taking Ber instead in preparation for taking Kie next year. That plus taking StP means that as long as you don't do anything dumb in the fall you will net at least 2 builds.

France - For 1st place you get a Cadillac. 2nd place you get a set of steak knives. 3rd place you're fired. You will not be getting the Cadillac or the knives in this one. Better luck next time, your time is up.

Germany - you were in a tough spot once Austria took Mun. If you guess well in the fall a decent chance you can stay at 6 units. Otherwise probably dropping down to 5. Even if you do manage to stay at 6 you will be facing an uphill climb as England is in better position and should soon have the numerical advantage vs you as well. You'll also probably need to keep an eye on the Italian units in Iberia once they finish off France.

Italy - you guessed right vs France in terms of whether he would try to block MAO or stay put, so you have that easy pickup coming your way this year now. Taking Adriatic may be a careful what you wish for situation as Turkey now has the option to retreat to Apu or Alb. If he goes for Apu then you'll have to guess very well to make any net gains against him. If he goes for Alb then it may be tough for you to take Tri. The fall should be interesting for you at any rate and I'm curious to see how Ven/Tri play out.

Russia - no Cadillac or steak knives for you either.

Turkey - another solid turn. Austria is digging in by War and Mos, but he probably won't be able to keep that unit in Ukr for long, so the question will be whether you can beat England to War and Mos. My guess is you can. Italy is putting up more of a fight and his move into Adr presents you with an interesting choice of whether to retreat to Apu or Alb. You'll also need to consider for the fall whether you will be better served trying to maximize centers or going for position (i.e. control of Ion). Of course not out of the question that you could do both depending on what Italy does.

Updated rankings
Turkey, England, Italy, Germany, Austria, Russia, France.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
09 Oct 14 UTC
@ Yalunec: Love the Glengarry Glen Ross reference.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
10 Oct 14 UTC
Don't know it... bump.
Kallen (1157 D)
11 Oct 14 UTC
bump for austria
What is it with the German speakers?
Kallen (1157 D)
12 Oct 14 UTC
come on guys seriously....this is ridiculous
A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
13 Oct 14 UTC
Bump. Still no Austrian orders.
TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
13 Oct 14 UTC
(+1)
Perhaps our professors can talk a bit about the norms of GB diplomacy, like readying orders etc, and the diplomatic consequences certain behaviour has ;-)
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
13 Oct 14 UTC
Yeah, in addition to being rude to hold up the game it can end up being the deciding factor for another player choosing between staying with you and going in another direction. Common courtesy says don't hold up the game. Readying up is strongly encouraged in gunboat, though this one is a little different because the players do need to communicate with their TAs. But consistently missing order deadlines is bad form and will cost you big in games that are not WFO. Bo/2WL can you guys contact the repeated offenders in this one once the site is back to processing orders and confirm that they are interested in continuing? If not maybe there are some players interested in subbing.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
13 Oct 14 UTC
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To add to the frustration expressed by both players and TAs, it is also rude to take advantage of a generous admin allowance of WFO without notifying him of an absence in accordance with game rules. To that end, I have turned off WFO.

IF ANYBODY NEEDS A PAUSE YOU MUST CONTACT MYSELF OR BOSOX.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
13 Oct 14 UTC
On a tangent from what I just wrote, since games are still not processing, consider this a grace period for Austria, who I will contact.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 14 UTC
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To that same point, there is absolutely no guarantee that we'll be able to stop an NMR, so the best course of action is to get your orders in as opposed to holding the game up. Were this game non-anon or press, the repeat offenders here would be getting shit thrown at them for the rest of this game, and when it's over, those players ought to expect a little bit of it from others. It's especially annoying here because there's not only seven players, but seven TAs and three professors (four if Lando is on board), plus however many people are watching this thread.
Bump - processed.

bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 14 UTC
All retreats/disbands as expected, nothing worth talking about. Good luck in the fall.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
13 Oct 14 UTC
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Agreed. I'm assuming Austrian disband was a NMR rather than intentional, but frankly he deserves to lose that unit.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 14 UTC
Yeah, I assume so. It wouldn't have made any difference since it would have been a disband this fall anyway.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
13 Oct 14 UTC
Well, it does make a difference in terms of being a unit that could have supported Vie from Boh. Now Turkey can take Vie guaranteed from Tri if he wants (though probably losing Tri to Italy in that scenario).
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 14 UTC
Yeah, maybe. I've been operating under the assumption that Vienna is a lost cause for some time, so you might be right that it could have held it for a year, but not much longer.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
13 Oct 14 UTC
Right. Could have held it for the fall and then lost it next year. I guess in theory Tyrolia could decide to support vie this turn as well, though I can't see why Italy would want to do that at this point. then again I didn't expect him to decline to retreat to Bud last year so what do I know.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Oct 14 UTC
I'm pretty convinced that was a misorder, and a costly one at that. It makes no sense otherwise. He can tell us after the game what went on there.

Is there any sense in sacrificing Trieste to Italy for Vienna? Surely Italy is viewed as the bigger threat.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
15 Oct 14 UTC
Bump
Kallen (1157 D)
16 Oct 14 UTC
13 u m p
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
16 Oct 14 UTC
*B*O*M*P*
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
16 Oct 14 UTC
Autumn 07 thoughts.

Austria - not much to talk about, holding War and Mos for now, but probably not for too long now that Turkey is in Ukr and Sev with more armies on the way. At least Russia will be gone and England is offering you support from StP for now as well. Unit in Ukr can retreat to Gal by then you will have a tough decision as to which unit to get rid of. Keep Gal and you almost certainly lose Vie next year, which means you also lose the unit in Gal at end of next year. Keep Vie and you still may lose Vie or War next year depending on what Italy does. Things look bleak but still a chance you could hang around for a while and with War and Mos not out of the question that you could remain in a draw.

England - Great year for you, three builds coming. As I've said all along, Austria taking Mun helped you far more than it helped him and you took full advantage. Well done. Now you get to decide whether to build mostly armies and try to finish Germany off quickly or mostly fleets and open a second front (vs Italy). Either way you almost certainly will want a 2-1 split in your builds. No way you can get to 18 without at least 3 more armies, but you will also need at least 2 more fleets as well, so no wrong answer here. Another thing to consider is what happens if you move aggressively on Iberia next year. Maybe you quickly gain the advantage on Italy while he is tied up with Turkey. On the other hand maybe it is better for you to leave him alone and let him be a check on Turkey while you pick off German centers. Tough call, but at least all your options are very good.

France - writing has been on the wall for a while, so no surprise here. Doesn't apply here since there is nowhere for you to retreat to anyway, but I will just mention as a general rule that common courtesy dictates that you use the Autumn retreat phase when there is no center for you to retreat to and you are at zero centers to disband your final unit and ready up. No reason to make everyone else wait through two phases for a zero center power, but I have seen this happen including several times in the recent gunboat tournament. It is lame, don't be that guy (not directed at you France, again these are general comments).

Germany - rough year for you, things went south in a hurry after that turn where you failed to move from Par to Bur to defend Mun. Going to be tough to hold off England indefinitely, but at least right now he has no armies near you. You are going to need some great guesswork next year to minimize your losses. That includes the unit in Bre which will need to guess whether Italy is going to convoy to Gas or straight to Bre hoping you move to Gas to defend against the move there. That is if he even goes after you rather than pulling the fleet back to defend against Turkey. At least Hol does have a retreat spot open (Hel). Your forces are a bit spread out right now which makes defending difficult.

Italy - first the good news: You've knocked Turkey out of Apu and forced that unit to disband and you are getting a build. Now the bad news: Turkey has control of Ion and Tun is undefended. You'll have to decide whether to keep the fleet in MAO and try to add Bre or Par or pull back to WMed to help defend Tun. You will also need to factor in England's three builds for the long term.

Russia - be sure to ready up when the build phase starts. Better luck next time.

Turkey - covered most of your situation in the Italy and Austria sections. You'll have two builds coming after the forced disband in Apu. You have control of the Ion and you should soon have Austria on the ropes. If Italy and Austria work in concert your expansion may be slowed a bit for the next year or two. England has closed the gap and possibly even overtaken you given his lack of natural enemies at this point other than a weakened and spread thin Germany.

Tiers
Solo threats - England, Turkey. I won't be surprised if either of these countries solos. I actually like England's chances a little better. Barring catastrophicly bad moves and bad luck these two should be around at the end of the game for certain.

Key player in any draw - Italy. If Italy gets eliminated in this game it almost certainly means England or Turkey is soloing.

A chance to make it to a draw - Austria, Germany. War/Mos and Mun are critical stalemate line centers so you can never completely count out the owners of those until they are surrounded. Of the two I like Austria's chances better than Germany's overall. Either or both could easily be eliminated in this one too though.

Game over man, game over - Russia, France. Seventeen days? You guys aren't going to last 17 hours. Those things are gonna come in here and they're gonna kill us. Maybe you guys should put Newt in charge.
2ndWhiteLine (2601 D(B))
16 Oct 14 UTC
As we start to enter the endgame phase, once Russia and France are gone, solo threats should start considering how they can solo and what centers are realistic, while Italy, Austria, and Germany should be thinking draw at all costs; more specifically, how to make themselves integral for a draw.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
17 Oct 14 UTC
Autumn 1907:

England - Solid year all around. You got St. Petersburg, which is likely your last Russian center, but you broke Germany's final realistic line of defense against your attack. You could end up with more German centers, but you need to ask yourself whether or not you can hold up Turkey on your own or whether you will need his help. Hopefully you'll be wise and build correctly this year so that you can put yourself in position to dictate the alliance against the solo and potentially find a weak spot in it to open up your own solo aspirations.

France - Bai bai. Hopefully your TA has a somewhat helpful overview of the game and hopefully you'll consider early mistakes and how those missed opportunities cost you. Hopefully you'll also analyze the other nations in this game and understand what they're doing, because endgame play is extremely important and very hard to master.

Germany - You aren't going to beat England, and you have no fleet power at all, but I am confused as to why you elected not to support Holland. You could have cut Kiel with Ruhr and defended Berlin nonetheless. Oh well. There is no reason to disband that fleet since you can't rebuild it, but it will in all likelihood be disbanded soon enough no matter what you do.

Russia - See France.

Turkey - You may end up with a shot at a solo if the rest of the map doesn't put up an adequate defense, but you have a long way to go. Analysis of your situation is pretty simple - keep doing what you're doing, move as efficiently as you can, and try to be ready were the rest of the players to leave you an opening. If they don't, there's little to be done.

Italy - Disbanding the Apulia fleet was wise, but with Turkey now in the Ionian, the question of how to protect Tunis remains. It will likely take up most, if not all, of your resources, and England may think about a move on the Med. It'll be interesting to see how you handle the fleets to your west, whether they are Turkish or English.

Austria - You'll be down to two centers soon enough. Italy can't afford to help that anymore. Whether or not you think it's his fault, you need to continue to prioritize Moscow and Warsaw and hopefully England will maneuver so as to help you hold it and potentially help you survive.

Two good posts of commentary above. Read those closely. There's a lot of good info in both of them.
Chaqa (3971 D(B))
19 Oct 14 UTC
Bomp
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
20 Oct 14 UTC
Who put the bomp in the "bomp-a-bomp-a-bomp" ?

Who put the ding in the "rama-lama-ding-dong" ?
kasimax (243 D)
22 Oct 14 UTC
bump.

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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Nov 14 UTC
Protestor Facing 9 Counts of Assaulting Police for Fake Blood
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/occupy-wall-street-protester-busted-nypd-boss-paint-job-article-1.2022996

What the article for whatever reason fails to mention is that he is apparently facing 225 years... for... fake blood on a guy in a suit... yeah, okay... that makes sense.
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
24 Nov 14 UTC
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Filthy, Diseased Homosexuals
This guy has been taking lessons in sexual morality from Sbyvl...

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-university-bans-preacher-who-calls-homosexuality-a-filthy-disease-9879579.html?cmpid=facebook
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pirpir (245 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Need a new player for England. (Spring 1901)
Hi. we need a new player for England for the game "Diplomatic Language". Trying to get it paused at the moment. The game hasn't gone through the first round yet.

Pls let us know
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Nov 14 UTC
Seeking Cliche's : Powered Armor
Fellow Webdipstanians...perhaps you saw my earlier teaser thread..."Armor" Perhaps not. Anyway, instead of November write a novel in a month, I"m going to do December (10 days off around Christmas...best month for this plan). My novel -- a "Powered Armor" sci-fi schtick. Humorous take on the powered warrior fighting a pointless war.

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pirpir (245 D)
30 Nov 14 UTC
contacting the mod
can we contact the mod through the forum?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
29 Nov 14 UTC
24-hour gunboat
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Back again, need players
I used to be an active member, but haven't played in over a year. My brother is visiting for thanksgiving and wants to play. It would be great if we could get some players to join us. He played the board game many many years ago, so he's familiar with the game but is new to online play.

Thanks http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=151309
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
27 Nov 14 UTC
I will be playing catan tonight if there is anyone who wants to join me
Catanonline.com.

I am ninjaj
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
19 Nov 14 UTC
2014 Webdiplomacy Tournament Round 2
Looking for feedback. Ultimately there are two options: starting in a few weeks with the next round's games being setup Saturday, December 6, or waiting until after the holidays. I'm not sure how many are traveling, and I'd hate to see a mass-produced for the end of December, but I would also hate to delay the next round as this one is coming to a close. Thoughts?
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Ranscott47 (2874 D)
30 Nov 14 UTC
Non-gunboat Game starting 805PM CST
I'm sick of gunboat. It isn't really Diplomacy at all. Starting in 20 minutes (Sat night)
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
27 Nov 14 UTC
Thanksgiving: What are you thankful for?
Me: Family, health, learning
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
28 Nov 14 UTC
Historical Research Needed?
Sirs,

I was hoping that one of the lads here, perhaps someone young and enterprising, might research the name of a research facility for me?
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Zach0805 (100 D)
28 Nov 14 UTC
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vDiplomacy
I found a website called vDiplomacy.com. It has over 50 varients. You should all check it out. It also has reliability ratings and choose your own countries options. Check it out.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Given My Name, Seems Only Fair *I* Should Post This...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOVFvcNfvE I haven't seen these movies in years--I stopped being a fan about the time I joined this site...and gave myself this name, lol--but THAT looks pretty cool. A couple odd things in there, but hey...X-Wings and Tie Fighters again, instead of Whateverplanes from the prequels. Now J.J. Abrams just needs the Millennium Falcon to team up with the USS Enterprise! ;) Thoughts, sci-fi people, on the new Star Wars trailer?
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ghug (5068 D(B))
07 Nov 14 UTC
Mafia
So, it failed the last time we tried to restart it, but I really think we should play another game of Mafia here. Signups below, and whoever volunteers to GM is my new favorite person.
185 replies
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TrPrado (461 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
Few more for world game
gameID=150973 needs 3 more. World game, non-anon, 24 hour phases, full press, PPSC
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Strauss (758 D)
29 Nov 14 UTC
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It began with an idea...

http://dipwiki.com/images/9/95/Original1958Original.gif

...1958 and captivate to this day many players around the world a long time, some forever. At the first sight the game looks pretty simple, but this prejudice is taught quickly of a better one. Yes, passion is welcome, otherwise it becomes the 'Walk to Canossa'. What you have only done to us, Allan B. Calhamer? Why I couldn't collect beermat...
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
29 Nov 14 UTC
Apple Question
Some of you are techy people, might you be able to help me out?

Apparently my Apple ID is locked because I don't know the answers to my security questions (well, I think I do, but they are apparently wrong) and my rescue email is disabled since I graduated from my high school. Since then, I get notification after notification informing me that I can't access the cloud and now my texts aren't sending. Is this all because of my ID security questions or is something else going on?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
28 Nov 14 UTC
(+5)
diplomacy-like chess
I have an idea for a game, it requires one chess board, some paper and pens...
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krellin (80 DX)
28 Nov 14 UTC
Armor
...
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
26 Nov 14 UTC
PBEM New World Order (NWO)
It has 40+ players and it's the wildest ride of Diplomacy you'll ever experience.
Check out the vdip thread:
http://vdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=58068#58068
(don't click; copy)
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Crustymeme840 (100 D)
26 Nov 14 UTC
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Swag of swags
yes swag many swag of all swag
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