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sisi8 (108 D)
22 Apr 13 UTC
join
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=115806
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EpicDip (100 D)
19 Apr 13 UTC
Diplomacy Royale
I'm starting a PBEM game of Diplomacy Royale: http://www.variantbank.org/results/rules/r/royale.htm Looking for players
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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
17 Apr 13 UTC
WebDip vs. VDip - Site Comparison
I'm a member of both sites, and I've played some games on each. Here's what I've noticed each site has up on the other:
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murraysheroes (526 D(B))
17 Apr 13 UTC
VDip is far more customizable...from all of the map variants to the optional rules in game creation (I particularly enjoy the ability to customize the NMR policy). It also has the nice order visualizing button that allows you to see your orders on the map before they are played out--not necessary, but a nice touch.

WebDip seems to have players that are far more in tuned with how I prefer to play than VDip. In my VDip games, I've played with several people who won't reply to anything in full-press games, people who will reply but write like James Joyce composing in SMS, and people who dive straight into games without bothering to even give the rules a cursory read. (I've also had more games affected by multis there than here, but that could be coincidence.) I also can't seem to find a good standard game to save my life at VDip...because there are all those custom maps, nobody seems to want to play the traditional map with the traditional rules.

Everything said and done, I much prefer to play with the players of WebDip. With that being said, is there any plan to implement any of the good features from VDip over here (specifically the custom NMR policy)?
Mapu (362 D)
17 Apr 13 UTC
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You have all of 10 phases on vdip and you left the one game I saw you in.

You are now a discredited witness.

I have nothing further.
murraysheroes (526 D(B))
17 Apr 13 UTC
I'm pretty sure I was forthcoming on the "I've played some games" point. I'm not a charter member or anything, but this is what I've noticed during my time at both sites. I'm playing the maximum number of games VDip allows new players (which is 4, apparently) as well as several games here (which are mostly anonymous on both sites). I was hoping that someone would confirm or deny my experiences at the two sites as either typical or atypical, and also help fill me in as to why those differences exist.
Dharmaton (2398 D)
17 Apr 13 UTC
yes luv it
NikeFlash (140 D)
17 Apr 13 UTC
if anybody that is on vdip as well would like to play an EvT game come on over and join me! It starts in like 5-6 min, so join fast.
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=13761
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
I'm hopeful that a lot of the nice features Oli has put together in vdip can be brought back over here. There weren't any code changes here for about a year for various reasons but it is looking like that is changing.
I really just like the WebDip interface better, and we seem to have better quality of players here. Just personal opinion.
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
LoL @ NikeFlash, you have the www.vdiplomacy.com in the link. Now we know you are a traitor. Just kidding. I will not play any online diplomacy site which does not implement the turn-by-turn playback button like here, on Webdiplomacy.
ghug (5068 D(B))
18 Apr 13 UTC
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Meep, vDip is webDip with added features and variants (and worse players.
ghug (5068 D(B))
18 Apr 13 UTC
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MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Does Vdip have the playback button, one turn at a time like in Webdip?
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Yes.
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Hah! I am gonna check them out.
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Vdiplomacy site is so slow for me, 5 to 10 times as slow for every click as compared to this site. Is it just me or it's a well known slowness on Vdip site?
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Vdip doesn't have the financial backing/dedicated servers webdip has.
philcore (317 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
One feature I really like there is the "New PM" icon. It shows up just like our game messages icons do here. How many times have you had a PM that was four days old because you don't know it's there unless your on "home" and happen to scroll down past all of your phase changes?
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
*sigh* shouldn't Vdip and Webdip merge to have a bigger community, and stronger software? What's the story with Vdip? Were they an offshoot from Webdip?
philcore (317 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
I'm playing a build anywhere variant there now with some notables from this site and sandgoose (I had to see for myself what all the fuss was about) No one has had the chance to build on a non home center yet, but I think it'll be interesting. Imagine being italy and being able to build on tunis, or russia and being able to build in norway!

Ive also finished (lost) an EvT game already. It's England versus turkey with everything else on the board nuetral. Pretty intense.

I'm no convert, mind you, I won't have a silver coin there anytime soon, Im just sayin, I joined to talk shit on the forum during the the W vs V debates, but I've got I say the 14 people who frequent the site (7 of whom are also here) seem very nice. That's definitely what we have over them, our community. I love you guys ... <sniff sniff>
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
@philcore, I submitted the PM notification code to Kestas awhile back, but he was working on the localization support so wasn't taking in changes, but Oli/Sleepcap pulled it into vdip. I have since resubmitted it to Kestas on top of the 1.32 version of webdip so hopefully we'll have it here soon.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
@MeepMeep, yes, vdip is on offshoot of webdip. It uses the same code except Oli/Sleepcap has made a lot of improvements. Its primary goal has been to support the building and playing of variants. There are other sites that use the webdip code as well, usually for other countries/languages. I'm pretty sure there are ones in Italy, Spain, Germany, and Korea.

As for why we don't have all of those variants here, Kestas, the creator of the webdip platform and owner/operator of this website has, for his reasons, chosen to only have a few variants.
philcore (317 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
@alderain, that's awesome. I look forward to it. Thanks for your contributions to the site. You guys are awesome!
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
I see. Shame on the Vdiplomacy folks. They ruined the playback functionality. On a large map, it only shows a portion of the map. There is no way to do a step-step on the turn with the whole map view like here. Here, a 17-country map will show nicely every country.

I notice there are people who could be mechanically better with stuffs, but make unwise decision and ruin the whole idea. I will not play Vdip until they show me a step-step replay with the whole map in view. I don't care how small the icons become, I do want to see how countries progress graphically in relation to each other, ALL OF THEM at the same time.
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Hey, if you guys need some cool algorithm, post a question on the forum. You would be surprised some of us can give you some cool algorithm and write good pseudo codes.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
@MeepMeep, can you clarify your issue with the vdip map? I'm looking at this one that has lots of countries and the playback looks fine to me.
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=12198
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
I guess I should also ask, can you link the game that doesn't play back like you would want?
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
This is not Ok, the playback does not show the whole world:
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=12034#gamePanel

This is Ok, the playback does show the whole map:.
http://vdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=13333#gamePanel

I think when the map is too big, Vdip does not know how to resize the map to fit in the regular window. It introduce the sliding window which I don't care. It totally misses the point of playing back globally.
Alderian (2425 D(S))
18 Apr 13 UTC
Well, if you click on the icon whose mouse over text says "This button will open the large map in a new window..." and do that for each turn, then you can go from tab to tab to see how things change, but on the big map which is much better anyway. Even here on the classic map that is usually what I do.
MeepMeep (100 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
But the new large map does not have the playback button!!!

I want a map large or small with a playback button which show the entire global situation. I guess I am demanding, am I? LoL. Anyhoo, I am not going to Vdip till they have what I want.
Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Apr 13 UTC
MeepMepp - You are good at saying what you want and you talk the big talk about what you have done in IT... Why not actually volunteer to *help* code the changes?

Of course, that is if you actually have done what you claim (I somehow doubt it when your first presentation was "use a laptop PCs hard drive" and then when pressed pushed out a bunch of buzzwords that you could have copied form soemthing you found ont he net).
Dharmaton (2398 D)
18 Apr 13 UTC
variants :D

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Fasces349 (0 DX)
20 Apr 13 UTC
Who the fuck is ulytau
I DONT think I like his contribution to the site but I don't know much about him since I wasn't around much lately. Someone explain to me, ulytau, please.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
20 Apr 13 UTC
Masters Poll
To those who are in the Masters, I'd like to put up to a vote whether we should keep phases for future rounds at 48 hours, or move to 36 hour phases. There are five rounds to play, and Round 3 will be launching in the next two weeks.
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jimgov (219 D(B))
21 Apr 13 UTC
Blankflag - Spammer or Troll
I have seen him described both ways on this forum. We have to come up with one, simple way to describe that which is blank. Spammer or Troll? Who ya got?
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mendax (321 D)
21 Apr 13 UTC
Computer Diplo
Is there any good diplomacy software with playable AIs? I haven't been able to find any worth playing, but maybe y'all know a good one.
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MKECharlie (2074 D(G))
21 Apr 13 UTC
Drinking & Diploming
What's the best press you've sent or received while drinking and checking your messages on this site?
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blankflag (0 DX)
20 Apr 13 UTC
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the blank rule
i guess my block is over now - so how about the blank rule? i am not allowed to post new threads yet other users are. what are peoples thoughts of this?
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
20 Apr 13 UTC
Game Question - cheating vs. not cheating
As per below
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Yonni (136 D(S))
21 Apr 13 UTC
Chess Online
I've taken up playing chess online at gameknot.com. I'm sure there are some chess players here. Send a 2 or 3 day challenge to yonnif if you're interested in playing.
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kamikaze0214 (204 D)
21 Apr 13 UTC
ReBrock, idiot or asshole?
Baseless accusations of cheating, told how to report his "allegations", comes to forums instead! Wahh wahhh wahh.
God I wish I was good at this game.-Turkey
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114705&msgCountryID=0
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ReBrock (189 D)
21 Apr 13 UTC
Cheating suspect!
Please investigate this game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=114705&msgCountryID=0
Apart from the fact that the turk should have been out 2 years ago and he still is in the game, there a very strange behaveour of england who is hitting all other players left, part from the italian who is winning. I refuse to belive that someone is so dumb as to do that! I would really love to know if they are or aren't in connection?! Ty
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krellin (80 DX)
18 Apr 13 UTC
Obama's Anger
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/Ken-Walshs-Washington/2013/04/18/obamas-anger-over-senate-gun-control-vote-reflects-sting-of-defeat
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blankflag (0 DX)
21 Apr 13 UTC
live takeover
due to unforeseen circumstances (although arguably foreseeable) russia will have to abandon the following game. http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=115695&nocache=813
although he sucks a bit and appears to be getting destroyed. so it may not dramatically affect the outcome.
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trip (696 D(B))
19 Apr 13 UTC
Gunboat Means Never Having to Say You're Sorry
101pt/Semi-Anon/36hr/WTA. Taking first 6 with CD%<5.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
17 Apr 13 UTC
So many people know me, I don't even recognise them.
I just walked the dog. Came by a few kids, Morrocan roots I think. I'm white, not a racist, just noticed it usually happens with people with foreign roots, Morrocan most of the time. So any way, one of them said my name, asked about my dog blabla. Turns out they all knew me. I didn't answer. Just walked on. I don't get it. Anyone recognises this or anything?
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josunice (3702 D(S))
19 Apr 13 UTC
Bring Back American Democracy
Filibusters should not be commonplace requiring a super majority for legislation and fellow Americans in sparsely populated states (with insignifant economies) should not have greater representation through the sae 2 senators as CA, NY or TX.
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blankflag (0 DX)
17 Apr 13 UTC
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BREAKING exclusive video of secret korean technology released by pentagon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MzzLsJEzR8

on a completely unrellated note, i have been threatened with a forum-silence for posting threads. so if i stop posting dont think that i got a life and stopped spending all my time on here. that is impossible. it was a silence!
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
19 Apr 13 UTC
EOG - Another poor quality gunboat
gameID=115506

Can't wait to see the EOG from some of players here.
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Strauss (758 D)
20 Apr 13 UTC
CDs in Gunboat live games
This is so annoying! In the last games we have at least 2-3 CDs per game. Of course, everthing can happen, what you don't can scheduling, but currently, it is strengthened according to my observation. Isn't it?
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Partysane (10754 D(B))
20 Apr 13 UTC
Time Counter Malfunction
My timer in the games is off by some seconds. It is MOST anoying. I had several instances where i failed to change orders in time because the couter was wrong. Anyone else have that?
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strideknight (100 D)
17 Apr 13 UTC
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Just in case you're wondering why there aren't more users?
Because of shit like this, is why you don't have more registered users. I'm not going to be playing my games anymore, my wife isn't going to be playing hers, and I highly doubt myself or my friends will play on here ever again. Here's the email I just got from the admin:
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SYnapse (0 DX)
19 Apr 13 UTC
Boston bomber profiles
Unconfirmed reports that they are brothers from Chechnya, surname Tsarnaev.

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Yonni (136 D(S))
19 Apr 13 UTC
Do any if you own a smoker?
So, I'm thinking of getting a smoker. Leaning towards and electric one like this:http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00104WRCY
Anyone out there having smoking experience?
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Draugnar (0 DX)
18 Apr 13 UTC
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I declare MeepMeep to be a poser.
I don't normally do this, but he presented some bullshit about a project he worked on in another threed but prior to that and ever since has demonstrated that he has *no* IT knowledge or experience and just found that on someone's CV and copy/pasted it here.
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krellin (80 DX)
19 Apr 13 UTC
Obama Said Terrorism was Over....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10007190/Boston-bombs-Obama-lulled-America-into-false-confidence-over-terror-threat.html

At first the boy President wouldn't even say the word. Then he told us he had solved the problem...there was nothing to be worried about...
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Omagunagitya (426 D)
20 Apr 13 UTC
READY! READY ! hold... World Games
Why do ppl ready up and have all hold orders, how is that effective?
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Live game on now!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=115553 password is brhs
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Join our game!!
Password is brhs, join usss!!!!!!! http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=115553
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