I'd like to see them try.

Hell, I'd pay to see them tie up Sic and tattoo his forehead!

Aha!

The Man is using coercive force and blatantly false slander in lieu of legitimate argumentative justification against his critics!?!?!

So Typical.

;)

@Friendly Sword - look out, I think they are about to knock on your door. :-)

FS, are you an anarchist, or do you just have sympathies with the position (I am of the latter position)

Well, I have anarchist sympathies, and will take an 'anarchist' position on certain issues, but I probably wouldn't say I am an anarchist. I don't think the complete destruction of the State is particularly achievable and I am willing to accede that it may have it's uses in a very limited number of roles.

I've heard that the most effective way to combat the anarchists is to take away their squeegees, and not to put your garbage out until the last minute.

Take away their livelihoods, and starve them.

Nah... Just use 'em for target practice. Here in Kentucky we have the "he/she needed killing" defense. Anarchists, hippies, and tree huggers all automatically fall on that list. Hell, we even have a season for them, but we like to keep some around so we do set quotas and require permits to hunt them.

I think there are anarchist who already have "I'm a pretty pretty princess" tattooed on their foreheads

I bet you guys are the same folks that killed Anabaptists. Jerks. :(

good call draugnar, if you dont agree with someones ideas or lifestyle, ust shoot them.
American to the core.

On a more serious note, is Kentucky one of the State's that allows for the 'gay panic defense'?

Sometimes it isn't a joke. :(

WTF is 'gay panic'? I thought he was going to touch me and I'd catch the gayness?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

A pseudoscientific (at the very not proven) notion that people who are extremely homophobic and extremely heterosexual go temporarily insane when a person of their sex acts in a sexual manner towards them.
(ie. A nice gay man touches your arm and asks you if you want to have a 'good night'.... you freak out, pull your sidearm, and shoot him dead)

It has been used to get a number of murderers free and declared innocent (or sentenced for involuntary manslaughter) after killing supposed homosexuals.

A notable failure of the defense was the trial of Matthew Shepard's murderers.

That's just idiotic, but I don't blame the lawyers, I blame the juries

The "Gay Panic" defence is absolutely stupid. Homophobia is not a justification or defence for attacking gay people.

Hey now, for such a defense to work, the whole system has to be in on it. Juries, lawyers, judges, the penal system, the laws, etc.

Interestingly, some States used to have provisions for killing anarchists or communists back in the 1800s. They were threatening their property and drove the landowner and his bully's to righteous passion, ya know?

Damn those Wobblies.

Communists? In the 1800's?

Who do you think the KKK hated almost as much as Black people, and lynched almost as often? The late 1800s saw the advent of anti-capitalism in the US. (Fortunately, a lot of the socialists/communists/unionists were also black, so it made such things easier)

Obviously stuff got more heated and public in the 1920s, but that meant that killing people simply for being socialists and stirring up your workers was no longer nearly as easy or acceptable.

Ah, sorry, by "the 1800s" I thought you meant the decade known as the 1800s, ie the years 1801-1810 specifically. You actually meant the late 19th Century.

Yeah thats right, sorry for the confusion. No such thing as a communist in 1805 Tenessee I'm afraid. ^^

At least they weren't called as such.

The word "homophobia" is an outdated pejorative.

Anti-Gay is more accurate.

"(ie. A nice gay man touches your arm and asks you if you want to have a 'good night'.... you freak out, pull your sidearm, and shoot him dead)

It has been used to get a number of murderers free and declared innocent (or sentenced for involuntary manslaughter) after killing supposed homosexuals."

Yet another good reason for banning the carrying of guns!

If someone's going to go postal because someone tries to get in their pants, do you *really* think a lack of firearms is going to stop them?

Another way to think of it: if only the nice gay man was packing heat and could protect himself

Now, is homophobia defined as the hatred and fear of gay people or the hatred and fear of homsexuality in general?

Homonegative is another, more accurate, alternative.

Homophobia does exist, of course, but not as the blanket catch-all term for anybody who disapproves of anything gay-related.

If I am heterosexual and certain of it, but fearful that OTHERS might think that I am gay, then I am homophobic.

Anti-gay, or homonegative, views based on principles (or disgust) are not homophobic. It is presumptuous, simplistic, and WRONG to assume another's motivation.

Okay, then I guess I'm homonegative. But I don't dislike gay people, I just dislike what they do.

And, to just place this on record, the Bible only mentions guy on guy as wrong, not girl on girl, so I don't dislike girl on girl. (In fact, I happen to like it.)

And yes, I'm a Christian anarchist.

Yes mapleleaf, I am aware of the problematic uses of the term homophobia, but since the gay panic defense is defined as being so afraid of homosexual interaction that you go temporarily crazy, I thought is was the appropriate term to use.

I will go apologize to the gods of pedantry now if that will make you happy.

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Conservative Man, I acknowlege that you dislike male homosexuality, but you wouldn't stop gay people from interacting how they see fit, would you?

Also, Christian anarchist huh? What a strange combination. Do you ascribe to a particular form of institutionalized Christianity?

@Friendly: I might tell the gay men it's wrong to do what they're doing, but I wouldn't physically stop them.
And I go to Church by the way, Non-denominational right now, but in the future I might join the disciples of Christ Church, which stresses that you should have your own interpretation of scripture, and it was my interpretation of scripture that let me know that God supported Anarchy. "To seek rule from man is to reject rule from God" 1 Samuel 8.