What?

Stick around for a minute, it's not hard to figure out.

It's a liberal haven.

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Some studies suggest people who are more informed tend to hold more extreme political views. If that's the case, webdip players must be very well-informed.

We got some frickin' omniscient gods up in here then bro

Nobody on Webdip has any opinions on politics.

Most people on this website are cultural marxists, social democrats, hardcore marxists, or to the left of center. I am one of the few center right people on this website.

Whatever happened to the "opinions on this forum do not match with the public" awareness thread?

I consider myself slightly right of center

Pretty sure everyone feels that they are the minority when they are surrounded with hundreds of voices that don't always agree with them, ND.

Trump and Clinton do not by themselves encompass the range of political views held within this WebDiplomacy community, or the American nation. I suspect we have our "silent majority" ( combining both well and ill informed ). It would be a mistake to assume that an interest in the diplomacy game implies an interest in real politics ( or realpolitik ), although the assumption might appear to have an intuitive "logic".
Perhaps there's a vocal minority here, just as there is in the " outside world"

@Bo: Fair enough.

The forum used to have a lot of very diverse (and extreme) viewpoints, the averaging of which probably resulted in something pretty close to the dead center of the Nolan Chart. Unfortunately, over the last couple years, the mods' desire to purge the site/forum of undesirables (in the name of making it less intimidating, or something like that) resulted in several longtime forumites being banned and resulted in a noticeable (but not extreme - at least, not by my standards) shift down and to the left on said chart.

Yes, the big bad mods are civilizing you. Norbert Elias would hate us.

That sounds like an admission of guilt to me. :-P

I'm liberal, but I don't like Clinton.

I'm a centre right British Conservative, which in US terms makes me a swing voter with Democratic leanings.

There used to be some exceptionally good political discussions on this forum, but that pretty much died after the changes. All you seem to get these days is the occasional idiotic left wing rant, like that pile of horse manure brainbomb has dumped on us recently, or a post by orathaic that's so fair removed from mainstream political thought it takes an hour to work out what it's actually about.

Best to ignore politics here. Rather sadly I've yet to find anywhere as good as it used to be.

I disagree with the view that a forum with more decorum is devoid of, or has much less political debate and discussion, or that a shift to the left has occurred as a result.
I used to frequently clash with he who has an interesting player name at VDiplomacy and others, including the "God botherers" and engage in extremely robust exchanges, but I fortuitously decided to have a complete break from the site for about two years...during which time the crisis apparently peaked and was resolved.

But to suggest that all "debate and discussion" is now completely sanitised, dull and impotent is, I think incorrect, bit it seems like a few critics like to push that line

Ah, the Purge. I remember it well. It was just after I first started posting on the forum. Moment of silence for the fallen.

I've heard about this "Purge" a lot. So the mods just kicked out people they didn't like? Unless a person is cheating or being extremely, and I mean EXTREMELY rude and offensive, why kick them out?? That's kinda bullshit. Am I gonna get kicked for saying that? What's the things we're not supposed to say?

The forum went from a laize fair attitude on the forum (no moderation at all, allow players to mute and otherwise self-police) To a hands on approach.

The aim was to make this a more comfortable place for the silent majority of players who ignored the forums entirely. And new players who just happened to stop by.

Whether it was a success or not is difficult to judge. But while i regret what i lost, i support the mod team in their decision.

People were being extremely, and I mean EXTREMELY rude and offensive. After warnings. It used to be tolerated. The moderation team of the time (of which I was not part, I might add) decided it was driving too many people away; so they brought in some control. Some accepted it; some didn't. Those who didn't crossed the line, and most of them got banned and/or permanently silenced over a period of a couple of months.

Nobody gets banned without warning for forum behaviour.

Octavious it sounds like you have a problem with a whole host of issues. Freedom of speech being one.

I remember the old forum. Part of why I never was part of it. I played my gunboats and had no interest engaging with those scumbags.

Interesting to note, I once looked back to see when the Great Flame War of 2014 started, and the event that started that dark and tense era of the forum was krellin being silenced. All those complaints and behavior seen irredeemable enough to warrant a ban for someone who came to understand that his forum conduct was actually, well not great to say the least. People don't get bans for opinions. People get banned for acting horribly to other users or any other egregious conduct. Like mapleleaf, who was banned for being condescending and constantly harassing American users by laughing at the casualties of school shootings.

Not at all, brainbomb. I am fully supportive of you being able to launch a diatribe about whatever unsubstantiated nonsense you feel like. Very much a latter day scumbag, if you like. But I deeply regret that it's the best the site seems to do these days.

It is unfortunate that things escalated to the point that they did, and I confess that I am mystified how webDip was unable to resolve matters to a satisfactory level as vDip largely managed. Still, all ancient history and trying to turn clocks back is rarely a successful strategy.

I'd be interested in someone making a political compass chart with webdip forum regulars on it.

@deathLlama, i believe it has been done...

infact, i think you could add to this one: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=1216697#1216697