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hootie (100 D)
12 Nov 13 UTC
New Player Question
I'm new to the games. By accident I joined two. One permits me to issue orders, the other does not. Why
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stupidfighter (253 D)
11 Nov 13 UTC
Hi, I'm new!
So I've found out about this awesome game and I'm looking to get into it while I have the free time available in my schedule.
The game rules are petty clear to me, but how do we communicate in-game? Is there a PM system, or do we use e-mail?
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
11 Nov 13 UTC
Draug is watching us... Draug is watching us...
Due to a little complaint sent to the moderators it is obvious our friend draugnar is not only still around, but cares deeply about forum events.
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hecks (164 D)
08 Nov 13 UTC
Bowie
I don't appreciate David Bowie as much as I think I should, and I feel badly about that, so I'm trying to make today an all-Bowie day at work. So please suggest a Bowie album for me to listen to. What's your favorite Bowie album and why?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Nov 13 UTC
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Putin
This is your military.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhuzb3WMntc&feature=youtu.be
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
10 Nov 13 UTC
Masculinity
At some point during the day, I reflected on this topic. Not in a "am I masculine" kind of way, but I tried to analyze the subject sort of as a neutral non-male observer. Should a "man" be "masculine"? Can a woman be masculine? Fascinating questions if you ask me.
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
11 Nov 13 UTC
WoTC own Diplo.
www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/prod/diplomacy
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JECE (1248 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
philcore: "Meethinks" is a reference to Jar Jar Binks, not Shakespearian English
Where on Earth did or do you go to school?

threadID=1063154
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
03 Nov 13 UTC
First game
A Sunday afternoon trip down memory lane...
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ILN (100 D)
03 Nov 13 UTC
niggers
Basically,
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krellin (80 DX)
11 Nov 13 UTC
Decline of Civilization
http://www.spike.com/shows/1000-ways-to-die

We are too comfortable, life is to easy, if we have people with time to make this...and make money off this. UNLESS Putin starts in episode 3...then I might be OK with this...
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
10 Nov 13 UTC
Samsung pays $1bn to Apple.... in small change
http://news-hound.net/samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cent-coins/
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Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Nov 13 UTC
This is not an apology or a goodbye. This is a statement.
I grow weary of the shit here in the forum. My health is failing and I am trying to go to school. So after this post, I am asking goldfinger to silence me for a period of no less than 1 year. I'll use the time to finish my games and do schoolwork.
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hecks (164 D)
08 Nov 13 UTC
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Goats: Nature's Badasses
http://www.trueactivist.com/13-pictures-of-crazy-goats-on-cliffs/

Goats: putting rock climbers to shame since forever.
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DC35 (0 DX)
31 Oct 13 UTC
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Dicks
Penis
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
04 Oct 13 UTC
RIP Vo Nguyen Giap
Those of us interested in military history and strategy should note the death today of one of the 20th Century's great generals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24402278
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
05 Nov 13 UTC
Six Myths about Drone Warfare you Probably Believe
http://www.cracked.com/article_20725_6-myths-about-drone-warfare-you-probably-believe.html
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ILN (100 D)
05 Nov 13 UTC
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Lol from the title I thought, damn that's awfully similar to a cracked title, turns out it was cracked....am I a loser?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
05 Nov 13 UTC
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That was a terrible article.

Drones suck though.
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
05 Nov 13 UTC
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The Drone Industry HATES Him

Local militant avoids drones using this one weird trick!
ILN (100 D)
05 Nov 13 UTC
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Bo has never read cracked before. Too busy with gossip girl.
ILN (100 D)
05 Nov 13 UTC
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You forgot its a 5$ trick
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
05 Nov 13 UTC
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30 adorable drone .gifs!

You won't BELIEVE how this child responds to a drone attack!

30 things about drones that SUCK!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
06 Nov 13 UTC
ILN, you could have just said that my preferred network is Upworthy. I would have laughed at that one. Instead you missed a great opportunity.
dirge (768 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
What the hell happened to Cracked magazine? It's all weird and internetty now.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
06 Nov 13 UTC
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I have heard a rumour that drones can be really good for you ...... if you have excess children and are struggling to pay the bills every week, why not send them along to a party with the local Taliban leader, a quick call to the Green Zone and your troubles are all over, and you can stop worrying about what school you were going to send them to and getting them a uniform.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
I'm torn on drones. Obviously, they're good when they save American lives, but it's too much power for one man or even certain organizations.
President Eden (2750 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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Listen To This Man Tell His Story About His Encounter With Drones. I Cried. Then I Was Angry. Then I Felt I Had To Do Something. Then I Cried Again Into My $20 Latte From The Knockoff Hipster Starbucks Downtown. Then I Started A Petition On Change.org To Do Something. You Should Too.
Celticfox (100 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
Hey now I have yet to see someone order a 20 dollar latte at Starbucks! Now 6-7 dollars.. easily done.
dirge (768 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
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Only dumb fucks argue against drones.

Personally I support carpet bombing.
dirge (768 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
Nixon had it right when he sent B52's to carpet bomb Cambodia.

Obviously carpet bombing is much more acceptable than drone.

fuck you assholes
dirge (768 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
Shit Nixon was a fucking amateur compared to C. Lemay because firebombing civilian residences is always more acceptable than surgical rocket fire. And we don't dare kill people who promote suicide bombing. God forbid.
SYnapse (0 DX)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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Grow Your Drone Using These 3 Easy Steps
NO PILLS
Sylence (313 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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What I got from skimming this article was that it is not as glamorous to operate drones as an all-American boy would dream.
It sucks as a video game - the graphics are awful, no realism at all, not much better than Webdiplomacy...

Is there no-one doing anything to improve the work-place conditions of our fighters for peace & freedom?

Carpet Bombing appeared not to be any glamorous at all after trying it a few times... as you all might have heard about... but Drone Operator is no more fun either actually...
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
Hey, to be fair, Nixon *did* temporarily end the Vietnam War (the mother of all clusterfucks) with two weeks of intense strategic bombing. Not saying it was right, just saying that he shouldn't be automatically condemned for it.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
@ dirge

"Shit Nixon was a fucking amateur compared to C. Lemay because firebombing civilian residences is always more acceptable than surgical rocket fire"

Well, it might be a *little* acceptable when the entire enemy population has been brainwashed into participating in the war effort and the entire defense industry is based in wood buildings.

Don't automatically condemn LeMay. He was in a very difficult position.
ILN (100 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
Inb4 putin's rant on American imperialism.
dirge (768 D(B))
06 Nov 13 UTC
I still don't get what happened to Cracked.
Invictus (240 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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Still better than a John Cheese article.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
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@ dirge

"Surgical rocket fire" is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as a "surgical" strike. A missile hits a building. The missile goes boom and everyone in the building is toast, regardless of whether or not they're a bad guy. Not my definition of "surgical". Drones reduce but do not eliminate collateral damage.

Drones are better than B-52s, but both are worse than privateers. Issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal to capture the bad guys.
Octavious (2701 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
@ Gunfighter

You've obviously never experienced surgery on the good old NHS.
Invictus (240 D)
06 Nov 13 UTC
"Drones are better than B-52s, but both are worse than privateers. Issue Letters of Marque and Reprisal to capture the bad guys."

There's the slight problem there that privateers have been against international law for almost two hundred years. Also, letters of marque authorize individuals to attack and capture another state's ships, not specific people. Therefore using them to go after terrorists doesn't really make sense. What you're really advocating is effectively a bill of attainder, which, ironically, are specifically prohibited by the Constitution.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
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@ Invictus

The international law to which you are referring is the Paris Declaration of 1856, which the United States never signed or ratified.

"Also, letters of marque authorize individuals to attack and capture another state's ships, not specific people."

Yeah, but I'm referring to Letters of Marque AND Reprisal, not a simple letter of marque. Consider terrorists to be air pirates and take them out with letters of reprisal. Pirates and terrorists are alike in that they are difficult/impossible to fight by conventional means. Privateers proved effective during the Age of Sail, and I think that modern-day private contractors should be given the same opportunity to hunt terrorists. We don't have anything to lose.
Gunfighter06 (224 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
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Or I suppose you'd rather have the president unilaterally/summarily executing perceived enemies with military force, which has a hell of a lot less legal precedent than privateering.
Invictus (240 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
"The international law to which you are referring is the Paris Declaration of 1856, which the United States never signed or ratified."

If you finish reading the Wikipedia article, where you obviously found it, you'll notice that, despite not being a signatory, the United States abides by the terms of the treaty. There are several types of international law, one of which is called "customary international law." These are things which, while not necessarily part of a treaty a state has signed, are widely acknowledged as binding international law and held in equal weight with law created by treaties, unless there is a conflict. Then the treaty terms win. For example, it was customary international law not to harm diplomats long, long, before the Vienna Convention codified it in the 1960s. Privateering is firmly against customary international law, so it matters not that we aren't a party to this specific treaty.


"Yeah, but I'm referring to Letters of Marque AND Reprisal, not a simple letter of marque. Consider terrorists to be air pirates and take them out with letters of reprisal."

The "reprisal" part just authorizes the individual to cross an international border to achieve the end. What this means is that you can go into a state's internal waters or even a port rather than just operate on the high seas. It doesn't mean "reprisal" as in revenge. Legal terms rarely have the same meaning as the colloquial definition of the word.

As for them being air pirates (assuming that's even a legitimate category, which it probably isn't), how does this affect anyone not involved with airplane hijacking? The terrorists in, say, Benghazi couldn't be connected with that.

I'm familiar with the Ron Paul argument here. In the specific period after 9/11 it might just have made sense and been a decent policy alternative. I don't see how glorified Dog the Bounty Hunters are better than the US military in attackign terrorists, but I'm willing to be convinced it may have worked then. But it certainly wouldn't now, even excluding the illegality of privateering.

As I said, you're really advocating for bills of attainder. Those can't be done. You're just attaching yourself to an obsolete scrap of the Constitution that sounds steam-punk and sexy and bending reality to make your argument sound plausible. It isn't.
Invictus (240 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
" I suppose you'd rather have the president unilaterally/summarily executing perceived enemies with military force, which has a hell of a lot less legal precedent than privateering."

I'm against that. The solution, however, isn't resurrecting an institution that went out of vogue in the nineteenth century and applied to an entirely different situation.
Invictus (240 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
Who's the idiot or troll +1ing Gunfighter06's phantasy posts on letters of marque and the false choice between supporting that idea or supporting Obama's extra-judicial executions? If a troll, he's an artist. If an idiot, he just hasn't read my posts.

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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
09 Nov 13 UTC
Party room
For those late night games when people are dicks.

Here's to us!
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ILN (100 D)
09 Nov 13 UTC
Guy faked being black to win election
Genius in action: http://www.khou.com/news/local/White-guy-wins-after-leading-voters-to-believe-hes-black-231222981.html
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
09 Nov 13 UTC
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Glory to Arstotzka
Your face, it is different.
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
08 Nov 13 UTC
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Bubble ...... what bubble !!
When a company that has never made a profit floats on Wall Street and rises 73% on its first day of trading and the company is valued at US$31bn you know capitalism is fucked.
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
09 Nov 13 UTC
Cpt. Kirk rides his ship
railguns anyone?
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ILN (100 D)
08 Nov 13 UTC
Absurd
The wonders of government efficiency - The cost to build a street: http://cdn.thegridto.com/wp-content/uploads/527a85e0c67b1-DPS.jpg
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
07 Nov 13 UTC
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Dick shoots a big load in somebody's face
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/12/cheney/
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Nov 13 UTC
Piss Me Off
I'm inspired....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSEYXWmEse8
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krellin (80 DX)
09 Nov 13 UTC
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Really Dirty Video (Warning)
WARNING: It's getting boring around here, so if a really dirty video offends you, DO NOT CLICK THROUGH.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpNyQlNh_5E
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
09 Nov 13 UTC
Russia
Russian soldier doing a back-flip over barbed-wire while throwing an axe at a target?

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redhouse1938 (429 D)
07 Nov 13 UTC
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Imitation thread
Let's do this again. Imitate other forum members in this thread. Keep it nice and light.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Nov 13 UTC
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Learned something new this week.
I didn't know mapleleaf was the mayor of Toronto.
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SYnapse (0 DX)
08 Nov 13 UTC
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On privacy and hysteria
More to follow
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