Re: seeking players for gunboat with EOG discussion so we can improve
Posted: Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:04 pm
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That's a brilliant idea, and so much more useful than the weird stream of consciousness I have going on as I slowly descend into the madness only found in the silence of gunboat...Lukas Podolski wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:20 amI actually mimicked his journal in a simplified way using Excel to note the predicted and actual moves, as well as my analysis for the current and next turns.
Yep but there needs to be a certain level of discipline and time commitment - for my game it went on for 1.5 months so for 40-something days and nights I had been doing this.Brinbino wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 3:32 pmThat's a brilliant idea, and so much more useful than the weird stream of consciousness I have going on as I slowly descend into the madness only found in the silence of gunboat...Lukas Podolski wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:20 amI actually mimicked his journal in a simplified way using Excel to note the predicted and actual moves, as well as my analysis for the current and next turns.
As the France in game #4, in my opinion, I actually explained my reasoning for flipping against England in my notes from A02 and W02/S03. And my notes are quite relevant to your pointsAnimalsCS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pmTo respond to some of the stuff in game 4 that I was seeing:
• I think the Pie-Tyr move from France was interesting. I like your analysis that this was likely a mistake, since I may have made this mistake sometime in a future game if not for seeing this example. However, I think you did not use that army optimally and it might have been way more effective. Firstly, Bohemia is a pretty lame center to be in. You only border Mun (unlike Sil), but can't retreat to Pie (unlike Tyr). I think if you had moved to Silesia much sooner, you might have paralyzed Germany into attempting to protect two home centers simultaneously. Also, you can reasonably expect Germany to make attacks on Burgundy when the situation looks right, so you could have potentially laid a trap for Germany so you could sneak into Munich (preferably on a fall turn). Another possibility was supporting Italy into Munich from Tyr! Italy can't hold Munich long-term, but if losing Munich collapses Germany's defenses, you might be able to take all three home centers within a couple years.
In my notes:"A02:
I'm back in this awful situation. BOH is useless, SIL is better but to what end? Committing to the war against Germany might not be smart any more, seeing as England will benefit the most in the short term. I think in future games, when MAR does not bounce in PIE, maybe it should just head back to MAR?"
- I saw the same support Germany out of Munich trick that you did. Since Germany didn't fall for it in A02 and they entered Burgundy, that trick was no longer worth trying for after A02."You know what. Let's predict that Munich moves, Ruhr support holds BEL, and try to use BOH to slip into MUN. Why not. I can defend messing up with SPA -> MAR and PAR -> GAS next spring. It's very easy to turtle on 5 centers as France.
BOH -> MUN
PAR support (german) MUN -> BUR, in case of planned bounce"
England has already captured all of Scandinavia by the end of 1902. Continuing to attack Germany is a bad idea because the moment Germany is mortally wounded, 7+ center England and all their fleets are going to come after me (it's not personal, that's just solo-attempt business)."W02/S03:
Pretty much what I expected from England for builds. Keeps things safe and sane.
The problem is, England is beginning to get out of control. At some point I’m not going to have the fleets to fight them off. So I should try and get my roaming army disbanded somehow?"
In retrospect, that's almost certainly what I should have done. At the time, I was deathly afraid that Austria would backstab me at any moment, and I figured that an army would allow me to defend myself if he went for it whereas a fleet would not. I think that I was perhaps overestimating the likelihood of an Austrian backstab was for pretty much the entire game.AnimalsCS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:11 pm• Russia, (I haven't read through your whole journal so apologies if this is answered) why didn't you build more fleets in StP? Russian solos often involve a concentration of northern fleets and you had a couple opportunities to make that happen. For example, you could have convoyed Lvn-Fin after building fleet StP nc in Winter 1906.