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Tolstoy (1962 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
The "I Hate Muslims" Thread
If you hate Muslims, please tell me why. I'm curious.
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Jamiet99uk (1307 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Tax avoidance - the UK's national scandal
To all my fellow Brits, if you are within travelling distance of London and have a couple of hours free on Monday (24th Oct) I would strongly urge you to consider taking part in this event: http://www.ukuncut.org.uk/blog/time-to-resign
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Dan-i-Am 88 (358 D)
23 Oct 11 UTC
At the risk of inciting mass hysteria. . .
I happened over to OliDip or vDip or whatever it's called these days, and saw a variant to choose your own country. Is that something that may be implemented over here?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
22 Oct 11 UTC
What's up with Diplomacy Cast?
I haven't been able to access the site for several days now. Anyone heard news?
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Yeoman (100 D)
23 Oct 11 UTC
Take over my games, please?
Is there any way to hand over games to someone else? I really don't want to play anymore. I have 3 games going on, one's pretty good, the others are ending.
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DonXavier (1341 D)
24 Oct 11 UTC
Join Diamond Dust
102 point buy in
24 hour turns
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70661#gamePanel
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Diplo standard notation
Hey everyone,
Beside the "X S Y-Z" and "Bla C Ank-Sev" type notation is there a standard notation for more complex moves such as, e.g.
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
22 Oct 11 UTC
Trolls inevitably create threads to discuss threads that they are trolling.
I'm formulating zultar's thread rule.
Please discuss.
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dD_ShockTrooper (1199 D)
19 Oct 11 UTC
How the World Really Works XVIII
Could this happen? Can anyone defend Socialism in this thread dedicated to Greek debt? George Will is priceless, just how badly will Obama lose in 2012? Everyone knows that lower tax = more revenue, and these liberals who make Mythical victims can be spotted out with this guide to weak arguments and minds.
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DonXavier (1341 D)
23 Oct 11 UTC
Join Diamond Dust
102 point buy in
24 hour turns
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=70661
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SuperSteve (894 D)
23 Oct 11 UTC
Don't games start when they are full?
I'm in a live game that is full, but says it will start in 5 hours? Huh?
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Cynical Naif (142 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Why does it count as a survive...
when one has 0 centers and x units left. Would it not make more sense to have games end after a build phase to avoid this?
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Ges (292 D)
20 Oct 11 UTC
Do you own a boardgame copy of Diplomacy?
As there have been some IP questions about WebDip recently, I thought it might be useful to have a survey of how many of us own a cardboard version of the game. If enough of us own the game, it might convince Big H lawyers (may they never come knocking) that WebDip is not really hurting sales of the game.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
If You Could Only Choose One For Each Diplomacy Nation, the US, Japan, and China...
10 Categories: Television, Cinema, Literature/Theatre, Music, Fine Arts, Food and Drink, Architecture, Politics, Sports, and Cultural Holidays/Festivals...10 nations' offering of each, PAST AND PRESENT...

For each category, if you could chose only ONE nation to sample forevermore...who? Who has the best music? Literature? Drinks? ;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
AND let Turkey=The whole of the Middle East, ie, the Arabic/Turkish world, formerly of the Ottoman Empire...
Geowiz (236 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
France! - for Literature/Theater, Music, Fine Arts, Food and Drink, Architecture, Politics and Cultural Holidays/Festivals.

US for Television and Cinema

I don't really know anything about sports and don't really care about them either, so I'll leave that blank.

Italy does come in a close second for Music, Fine Arts, Food and Drink and Architecture though...
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Television: US
Cinema: US
Literature/Theatre: Germany
Music: UK
Fine Arts: China
Food & Drink: Austria-Hungary
Architecture: Austria-Hungary
Politics: China
Sports: UK
Cultural Holidays/Festivals: Russia

obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
My picks:

1. Television: ENGLAND

Close call between the US and England, but I watch more Documentaries and mini series than most other things...and the BBC has the best of both of those, with great docs and excellent mini series and adaptations, I've yet to be disappointed by a BBC adaptation of any literary series I like...and the fact the BBC here in the US now shows Star Trek: TNG seals it.

2. Cinema: UNITED STATES

Not even close...for all the bad ones there have been, there have just been too many good movies made in Americans and by Americans...

3. Literature: ENGLAND

Again, not even close--for as much as I like Twain and Co., and as awesome as Dante and Virgil can be...like I'm going to pass on Milton, D.H. Lawrence, Dickens, the Brownings, Keats, Byron, Marlowe, Eliots George and T.S...and then that guy from *Stratford* (Anonymous my ass...) ;)

4. Music: GERMANY

I listen to mostly classical anyway, so with Mendelssohn, Bach, Lizst, Beethoven, and Mozart--Wikipedia gives him to Austria and Germany, so I'm counting him--I'll take Deutschland.

5. Fine Arts: ITALY

Michaelangelo, da Vinci, and Picasso, and the Roman artists are enough for me to give this category to Italians.

6. Food and Drink: ITALY

I don't eat that much...but Italian always sounds good and rarely disappoints, and ITaly's supposed to be famous for good drinks as well...

7. Architecture: ITALY

Mostly just because of Roman architecture, which the West owes so much to and has been sturdy enough to stand for 2,000+ years in places...

8. Politics: ENGLAND

Maybe its a "Grass is always greener on the other side of the Pond" thing, but English politics--or at least some of their politicians--seem more in line with my way of thinking than the Far-Left Pelosis and Putins and the Far-Right Perry's and TCs here in the US, and with Hobbes, Locke, and Mill all there on the theory side, they win out.

9. Sports: UNITED STATES

This and Liteterature forn England were the easiest picks for me; MLB, NFL, and the NHL, and I'm a happy guy...even when my Ducks lose 3-1 in a game they should've won! Mets and baseball in the spring and summer, 49ers and NFL football in the fall and winter, and the Ducks and hockey from fall to spring, bridging the gap...sorry, but I'll take these leageus over a soccer league any day...rooting for Team USA every four years to win just one game and make the US not look like a total embarassment atheletically is enough for me there. :)

10. Holidays: UNITED STATES

I'm happy with our holidays...so why should I wish to switch to anyone else's? (Besides, 4th of July weekend is AWESOME...and if I voted for England here, it might be more of a bummer.) ;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
So 3 for England, the US, and Italy each, 1 for Germany...

And goose eggs for everone else? :p
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
@Putin:

UK for music I get...

But by "Obi is an major English major nerd" law, I must ask...

German lit over all of English lit?

Goethe, sure...but who else can stand up to the stable of writers the UK brings?
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Brecht, Brothers Grimm, Herder, Schiller, Heine, Hesse, Novalis, Mann, Roth, Gunter Grass, etc.

Mainly because German literature inspired me quite a lot. I know Britain might be better, but in terms of what I enjoy, nothing can compare to the Brothers Grimm and Schiller, in particular. Herder has transformed my views on a lot of things.
Geowiz (236 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Ok not to run over your Fine Arts reasoning, but Picasso was Spanish.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
^
...Yes he was...epic cultural fail on my part. LOL

Oh well...Mike and Leo still take it for Italy for me, they're still enough, I'm not a big fine arts person--I dunno, I could never draw as a kid and never got into it, books and later music were always more appealing and accessible--so Italy still wins with thwat limited knowledge (apparently) as I have of that field. :)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
@PutinL

-Brecht I like...not nearly as much as Beckett or Stoppard, but I like him...

-Brothers Grimm...meh...no real opinion one way or another

-Herder...have to admit I don't know him

-Interestingly, I know Schiller, but almost entirely through references made by writers like Dostoyevsky, who seems to love to allude to Schiller, Shakespeare, and the Bible (really, so far in "Brothers Karamazov," almost every literature reference comes from one of the three) so he seems like a pretty good poet, but I haven't read too much of him by himself and not connected with another work

-Heine...nope, don't know him

-Ditto the rest of that pack, though Roth sounds familiar, I might be thinking of a different Roth (that was actually my family's name via my grandfather on my mother's side before she was married.)
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Roth is technically Austrian so that doesn't count. He wrote Radetsky March.
Putin33 (111 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
You like Shakespeare and classical music, so I'd imagine you'd love everything Schiller ever wrote, since he was influenced by Shakespeare and influenced plenty of classical music. Wallenstein has to be my favorite.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Oh thank God for another high-brow(errrrrr insipid) obi thread!

I was getting SO exasperated with all of the lively political commentary around here.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Thanks for the trollinjg bump, mapleleaf...without such bumps, my threads might even go unanswered!
Mafialligator (239 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Television: UK. I love britcoms unreasonably. And QI.
Cinema: US
Literature/Theatre: US, but I'd be giving up a lot. Thing is, my favourite books are American, and Musicals are more American than British. But I'd definitely be sad to give it all up.
Music: That's tricky, I actually don't know.
Fine arts: Japan but yeah, giving up a lot there too.
Food and Drink: Aaaah. It's a coin toss between China and Italy. And I'm not talking about the fake Americanized stuff with either. Actually authentic Chinese food and Italian food.
Architecture: Don't really know a lot about it, but there are a lot of good choices. Might actually go with Turkey for that one.
Politics: Don't really know, all those countries kinda give me a headache in terms of politics.
Sports: US, Hockey and only hockey.
Holidays: Don't actually know enough, to make an informed choice but at the very least, not US holidays. You guys celebrate Thanksgiving more than a month late. Seriously what the hell?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Hey, that way we have a holiday for the last three months:

October has Halloween...
November has Thanksgiving...

And December has Christmas for most, Channukah for some, Kwanzaa for some more, Winter Solstice for those really against the cultural grain, as it were...

And even if you want to say "Fuck it" to all of those religious/spiritual holidays--never mind how secular they are anyway--you can still enjoy Obi's Birthday, erm, New Years Eve!

;)
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
(Why? When do you celebrate it?)
Mafialligator (239 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Early October. Canadian Thanksgiving falls on the second Monday in October, but really because the Monday is a holiday, Thanksgiving tends to spread itself out across the entire long weekend.

I like to joke with my American friends that at least part of the reason why Canada does it earlier is because a harvest festival in Late November in Canada would be pretty silly. All the crops would already be dead and buried under several feet of snow.
ulytau (541 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Television: US (Comedy Central and Discovery Channel)
Cinema: US (won by sheer numbers)
Literature/Theatre: Russia (Gogol, Solzhenitsyn, Chekhov, Zamyatin, Yefremov)
Music: UK (most difficult cathegory along with literature)
Fine Arts: France ((post)impressionism and most of modern styles that followed)
Food & Drink: Austria-Hungary (Pilsner×Tokay, vodka, Becherovka, goulash...)
Architecture: Austria-Hungary (Prague, Vienna, Budapest, castles, chateaus)
Politics: Germany (Federal Parliamentary Republic, gets some shit done)
Sports: USA (NHL, PGA)
Cultural Holidays/Festivals: Germany (Oktoberfest!)

3 USA, 2 Germany and A-H, 1 UK, France, Russia

China, Japan and Italy would have some second places though.
Turkey is lacking. There is quality but others are better.
Sargmacher (0 DX)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Nice thread, obi! Although, I think some of the categories, especially the Cinema category, will be unfairly affected by bias. Most English native speakers will veer towards America for Cinema because of the unrivalled influence/power of Hollywood to which no other national cinema can compete. Anyway, that said, here are my answers:

Television: UK: Dramas, as obi says, but also for the sense of humour.
Cinema: (US by default) Japan: to offer something different, Japanese horror is great and often provides the inspiration for Hollywood horrors, Japan also has great crime thrillers and, of course, the amazing Studio Ghibli.
Literature/Theatre: Germany
Music: UK
Fine Arts: Germany
Food & Drink: UK: a melting pot of culture and has everything from European to Indian, Chinese, Mexican, Thai, everything, everything.
Architecture: Turkey: Islamic architecture is so beautiful and impressive.
Politics: Germany
Sports: UK
Cultural Holidays/Festivals: India
ulytau (541 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
How is India a country? I'm sure you meant the British Empire, right?

And Japan seond in Cinema is good, it would be a Japan/France split in my case.

But voting for your own country's politics? Unheard of :)
Sargmacher (0 DX)
22 Oct 11 UTC
@ulytau: Well, I know obi didn't specify India as a 'legal' option for this game but I figured if we can have USA, Japan, and China as options then we can India too. If it was a case of the British Empire than depending on how far you go back the USA might not have its own category either :P
ulytau (541 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Yup, the US caveat is there! And since Turkey replaced Byzantines as successors to Roman Empire, all European power except for Russia are subsets of Turkey :)


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Zarathustra (3672 D)
18 Oct 11 UTC
"Featured Games"
What is the idea behind the featured games? I can't search for them or look at a "Hall of Fame" equivalent for games.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
21 Oct 11 UTC
Admit your (minor) sin
Today, I did a rolling stop at a four way intersection instead of fully stopping. God help us all...m
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swordsman3003 (14058 D(G))
21 Oct 11 UTC
delay of game: rude way to play?
Just asking for thoughts.
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
21 Oct 11 UTC
To start a rumor...
A "little bird" told me through the "grape vine" that Jacob might have the new i-phone which has access to webdiplomacy, and that he *might* be planning on joining a game or two really soon.
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Check_mate (100 D)
22 Oct 11 UTC
Those who just drew
id=70567 after two cd's, do you wanna start a Med or try another classic?
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spyman (424 D(G))
22 Oct 11 UTC
JDip or Realpolitik - problems installing
I am install these programs but I am not having any success. I don't know why this. I have installed them before and I never had any trouble previously.
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unique (340 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
FTF in SO CAl
I recently moved to Orange County and was wondering if anybody knows of any face to face going on in southern California. Any info would be appreciated!
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Macchiavelli (2856 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
TO MOD : why does this site permit hate literature?!
Can we seriously consider blocking or muting the people who post hate literature here? This is disgusting.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
22 Oct 11 UTC
TO MOD: Why does this site permit hat literature
TI find discussions about headgear deeply distressing. Please keep me from seeing things I find offensive - as is your responsibility
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Sicarius (673 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
And I look like.....
There has been alot (more than usual) hostility, ad hominems, condescension, just general douchebaggery lately. I thought maybe humanizing it a bit would help, there was a thread like this in the past and it was a great success.
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binkman (416 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Rules question
If a fleet in Edinburgh is support holding a fleet in the Norwegian Sea, and the fleet in the Norwegian Sea is moving to Norway (to counter a possible move to norway) and the fleet in the Norwegian Sea 1) is bounced out of Norway while 2) a fleet attacks the Norwegian Sea with one other supporting unit, will the fleet in Norwegian Sea be dislodged or not? It's 2 vs. 2 in Norwegian Sea, but the fleet there has a move order, which cannot be executed.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
20 Oct 11 UTC
Well he's dead
Reactions?
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Anne R (556 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Defeated in a game which was won by a later banned player...
... is there any chance to get my bet/points back or what happens with the points the multi player gets? I have to admit that only one player of the game got banned so he might have not cheated in this game. But I'd like to know in general what happens with the finished games in which cheaters were involved...
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Dejan0707 (1608 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Sportsmanship in the game of diplomacy
What virtues or actions could be considered to be in the spirit of sportsmanship, and what against it. Do you have someone who could be nominated to be in one category or other. Braking the rules of the site is not to be considered part of anti-sportsmanship, so only legal actions can be named.
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dr rush (0 DX)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Big game...
No noobs please.... lets see what u got!
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Putin33 (111 D)
21 Oct 11 UTC
Republican "Jobs Plan" = Don't Hire while Obama's in Office
http://www.wtsp.com/news/article/216451/250/Tea-Party-group-Stop-creating-jobs

Yes, the old stand by of economic sabotage.
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