The unit was dislodged, and then Mos and Gal bounced in War.

It can *if* it successfully dislodges the supporting unit, which it did with the support from Pru, resulting in Mos and Gal bouncing and Sil being forced to retreat/disband.

What Eden said, just with the explanation why.

what Draug said

What everyone else ever said.

"gramilaj is stupid" --Ghandi
"What everyone else ever said." --gramilaj

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And so a legend is born...

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/781/gandhi2000.jpg

heh, I just realized that 'ghandi' would be the best diplomacy alias....
We should get kestas to allow us to change aliases... everyone pick someone from history... I want to play a diplomacy game with Lady Di, Ghandi, and Nancy Reagan.... ;)

I'd go with Benjamin Franklin.

That being said, here's a match-up I'd like to see:

England: Churchill
France: Napoleon
Germany: Wilhelm
Italy: Augustus
Austria: Leopold
Russia: Ivan
Turkey: Suleiman

There is a lot of great grecian leaders... can we say Alexander the Great for turkey, since he technically ruled over it for a while?

There's many great leaders from each country. AtG would be a good one. I was considering Charlemagne too.

Catherine the Great really should be ruling Russia.

Anticipating this conversation I was sure to select an alias from history upon sign-up.

That is if the future is considered history.

So you chose a turncoat?

@trip, if that comment is directed at me, it's over my head. I just chose her because she was a good ruler in Civ 4, which is about as far as my historical knowledge goes. ;-)

He was the best thing to happen to Cloud City. Really turned the place around.

But yes, I choose the turncoat everytime.

Yeah, but he threw a Solo to the Dark Side.

Was @ Lando, gram.

Poorly timed stab, I agree. But we all make mistakes.

lol +1 trip

@Lando, Star Wars took place "a long time ago"

They never really say form which reference point a long time ago is. The narrator could be even further in the future, right?

@trip, Lando gave up Solo to win the war. Sometimes you have to retreat to ultimately advance.

Von Moltke would lead Germany to victory - Wilhelm only saw them lose

trip +1. That was great.

Yep, good catch.

No wonder Solo missed the next turn :)

Considering Star Wars was based on the classic literature form, the narrator is assumed to be talking from the audiences point of view, which means that would set the "long time ago" and "far, far away" as being relative to 20th Century Earth.

Originally, Star Wars was supposed to have been a history recorded by a species called the Whills, so "a long time ago" could be construed from their perspective.

@Shevek - That is incorrect. The Whills were an ancient order of Jedi who originally discovered how to transcend life itself.

"The ability to defy oblivion can be achieved, but only for oneself. It was accomplished by a Shaman of the Whills. It is a state acquired through compassion, not greed."
―Qui-Gon Jinn to Yoda

Qui-Gon, of course, went on to discover this secret himself as Yoda told Obiwan at the end of Revenge of the Sith.

Which seemed like a sequel hook for one that was already made... and episode four, as we all know, makes no reference to Qui-Gon at any point. So one wonders why they even bothered...

No, but we do see Obiwan and Yoda both transcend their physical forms in Ep 5 and Anakin at the end of Ep 6. Of course, I'm one of those who remembers (and has a bootleg copy of) the original theatrical release of Star Wars without the "Episode 4" at the beginning, so Lucas is good at revisionist history. And I've heard plenty of lame "the force was strong with Leia too so she has memories of her mother that Luke doesn't even though mom died when they were just minutes or hours old" bull.

That is true, but it was a retcon created during the prequel era. The original concept of the Whills as intergalactic historians predates the original movie.

I also found this in reference to the Whills.

The Whills kept a collection of stories, called the Journal of the Whills, that chronicled the history of the galaxy.[3] A Keeper of the Whills was responsible for adding new information into it. One such Keeper was told the story of the Skywalker family's exploits during the Clone Wars and the Galactic Civil War, by the Astromech droid R2-D2 one hundred years after the Battle of Endor.

But that doesn't explain the "galaxy far far away" as the Whills were clearly from the galaxy of the Star Wars story line. So "A long time ago in a galaxy far far away" only partly makes sense from the Whills point of view.

One interpretation could be that the Whills were not a species from the same galaxy as the one Star Wars is set in. Another interpretation is that the Whills transmitted their history to us.

Since Turkey is called Turkey and has borders more reminiscent of Turkey than the 1901 Ottomans, I'd say have Attaturk as the Turkey head.

Of course all of this is a moot point because we were talking about having our nicks be real military leaders, not ones pulled from the over active imagination of a then 30 something who never really grew up.

In that case, could I be Bismarck?

"Beat Poles until they lose faith in a sense of living. Personally, I pity the situation they're in. However, if we want to survive - we've got only one option - to exterminate them." -Bismarck