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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
2008 Olympic Games
So much to talk about! Which countries will win which events? What is your favorite obscure sport? And how about this protesting?
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Jerkface (1626 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
Are all people equal?
It is generally understood that all people are born equal (if you disagree, please chime in) but are all people always equal? Should all people be treated the same way?
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Karkand (2167 D)
23 Apr 08 UTC
Support Question
Hi All

Need a venerable sage to verify a support question. Let me know if your willing and I will show you whats going on in our private game.
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CountArach (587 D)
23 Apr 08 UTC
Retreating
I was under the impression that you couldn't retreat into an SC. Is this correct?
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fwancophile (164 D)
22 Apr 08 UTC
WTA take 2
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3627
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Treefarn (6094 D)
23 Apr 08 UTC
Rule questions - When supporting unit attacked
Here's the scenario.

Russia:
A Warsaw is supporting hold A Moscow.
A Galicia is supporting hold A Warsaw.

Austria
Silesia to Warsaw
Sev to Moscow
Ukr support Sev to Moscow.

Does the Austrian move to Warsaw break Warsaw's support or Moscow? Or since Galicia is supporting Hold Warsaw, the Warsaw support of Moscow is still valid?
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
20 Apr 08 UTC
Question on support
I am new to phpDiplomacy, but I am quite familiar with the board game. In the board game you may not support the hold of a unit that is giving support elsewhere, but in this game it appears that the Aegean Sea supported an attack to Constantinople, and the Ionian sea supported the Aegean Sea in a hold. Are you allowed to do that in phpDiplomacy? Or am I reading it incorrectly?
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Joining a bit late?
Hello there. I'm new to this (but have been a fan of Risk for a long time, and am already a fan of this game!) and 6 people (including myself) JUST started a game today (all of whom go to my high school, actually!).

Now, Italy is a computer, I think, as it's name is "Civil Disorder Germany" (which I would have assumed to be Germany, and not Italy!!!), and I've noticed on same games it will say "Take Over A Country" when they are in "Civil Disorder", so, I was wondering if there was a way my friend who is late to the party could join in as Italy.

Is that possible? How does it work? He literally JUST got able to join about 3 hours after the game started (and by the looks of things these games last pretty long!). Is he out of luck?

Thank you very much for your help!
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cynderblock101 (406 D)
23 Apr 08 UTC
New Game
hey yall we got a new game going with the buy in 50 points
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DeathOfRats (182 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
Questions about DRAWS
Dear all,

I have read topics on this many times, but even the most knowledgable players don't seem to be able to answer consistently.

If a game is Drawn and one player has 17 scs, one player has 10 and the remaining 2 players have 4 each how do the points get divided.

There are 3 points of view depending who you ask -

1) It would seem some people think all players get 25% of the pot (as there are 4 players left)

2) some people think all 7 original players get their points back

3) and some people think that the person with 17scs gets 17xpoints and the other players get 10pts and 4 points respectively.

could someone please tell me the correct answer, 1, 2 or 3!

Obviously option 4 is Noodlebug who believes all players in a draw should be taken outside and hung, drawn and quartered!


Cheers fellas :)

Mark
maxfrog (103 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
I'm not positive, but I believe it's shared proportionally based on how many SCs you have, which is the same as the winning case.

Your numbers don't quite add up (I believe there are 34 SCs, no?), but the winner would get 17/34ths of the points, the next 10/34ths of the points, and 4/34ths and 3/34ths for the remaining two players.
thewonderllama (100 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
No. Draws pay out as #1.
alamothe (3367 D(B))
21 Apr 08 UTC
no, 1 is the correct answer. you can't divide the points otherwise. if you're not happy with this, continue playing
thewonderllama (100 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
I didn't give a source, but this has been stated explicitly by Kestas a few times, though all relevant threads have scrolled off the forum.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
1. 3 is a common misconception, 2 an idea that has been proposed.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
1 for a draw
3 for a win
And please keep first posts short, especially limiting all those new-lines!
Just rereading my message it looks like an explanation of the football league - i mean idea 1 & 3
DeathOfRats (182 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
Yes guys I have seen this before and went looking but as you said its gone from the forum :(

Thanks for the answes tho, sorry for the long post just wanted to get it clear in my head as I have a game heading towards a draw.

Thanks guys.
Noodlebug (1812 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
Just for clarification, my *preferred* option 4 doesn't involve capital punishment at all, just that surviving players get their points back but no profit. For the obvious reason that if they want to profit they have to try and WIN. Yes that's right, they have to actually try and win a Winner Takes All game. (Such revolutionary ideas are obviously far too dangerous, and this kind of thinking could result in anarchy...)
figlesquidge (2131 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
Noodle: For clarification, maybe it would be best if a WTA game was renamed to 'Classic' or something, as it does represent the rules stated.
If this was done, then adding a truely WTA game, where a draw could give nothing more than a refund to those alive would be a nice idea.
menace3society (927 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
If you're referring to the "rules stated" in the most recent rulebook, it doesn't allow for points at all. IMHO, the temptation to draw is a part of playing WTA. If there are three players, with 15, 10, and 9 SC respectively, according to game theory they'll all prefer a draw to a tough battle against a coalition. That some people don't testifies to their belief in the purity of the game, but if every player in the running for a strong second place teamed up against the top guy, the game could (conceivably) seesaw back and forth for a long time. If players have no realistic chance of winning, no chance at drawing and no points for second, they may just stop playing, and that definitely makes the game worse for everyone.
Feckless Clod (777 D)
22 Apr 08 UTC
As I understand it, Noodlebug believes that players who won't play to win should be hung and quartered, but never actually drawn.
Noodlebug (1812 D)
22 Apr 08 UTC
hehehe... actually "quartered" sounds suspiciously like points sharing too...
Feckless Clod (777 D)
23 Apr 08 UTC
Come to think of it, paintings and pictures are hung.... people are hanged.

So there we have it. Noodlebug believes that you should try to win, or get hanged.

Personally, I prefer stoning. I also much prefer getting stoned.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
23 Apr 08 UTC
I must say just going for the victory is a much easier and safer option than risking the wrath of Noodle!


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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
23 Apr 08 UTC
Kestas: pls draw UN Variant 2 (3425)
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3425

Unfortunately Brutorix and Pandora both went CD - which with the treaties that we had in place effectively ruined the game, so we've had to call it a day!! Very frustrating as it was building up nicely.

Other 3 non-CD powers will post agreement shortly.
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dangermouse (5551 D)
22 Apr 08 UTC
In honor of pitirre...(sort of)
Just thought I'd point out that Puerto Ricans may decide the next President of the United States. It's still unlikely, but with the two Democratic candidates remaining so close the Puerto Rico's electoral votes (and yes they do have them) could decide it between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. The only two states that vote later are Montana and South Dakota and Puerto Rico has almost twice as many votes as the two combined.
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lexolex (100 D)
22 Apr 08 UTC
fun game
I just started a new game called "fun game". As it says, its a game for people who want to have fun...
The bet is only 10 points, so it is meant for beginners.
I hope to meet you soon on the battlefield!
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
22 Apr 08 UTC
Information about yourself
How long have you been on this site?
How many games have you played? For myself...

Time joined: 12 Aug 07

Game played: 55 in total with one ongoing.

(there are about 20 games in which I was not the original player. I just took over those CD players, hoping to read their messages exchanged and learn from it. No surprise, most of those who went into CD do little communication, i saw turkey never sent a note to Russia and things alike..

How about you?
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fwancophile (164 D)
22 Apr 08 UTC
WTA game
"fwancophile challenge" - http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3616
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El_Perro_Artero (707 D)
13 Apr 08 UTC
Best of Fiction
I know it's been done before, but which fictional characters do you think would make the best diplomacy players.

For me, I would have to nominate:
Ender and/or Bean from Orson Scott Card's series
Paul Atreides from "Dune"
Darth Revan - You'll have to be a complete Star Wars nerd to recognize this one. =)
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keeper0018 (100 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
back from the dead... er, at least from vacation
in case you misread the title or something, i am back from florida, and ready to kick some foreign diplomat arse! (sorry, cant swear in the forum, it would set a bad example) ;-)
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flashman (2274 D(G))
21 Apr 08 UTC
Why do people start new games...
...when they have just allowed themselves to go cd in others?

No names, no need to point the finger directly: you know who you are.

Is it attention seeking? Or is it the equivalent of checking your mobile phone every few minutes to confirm that you are connected - you need to know that other people will play with you?

If I come across as being somewhat judgemental here, I most sincerely apologise. I should have made my position clearer: I am totally and utterly judgemental on this...

It might not be cheating but it sure ruins games as quickly as the meta-gamers.

There, rant over.
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positron (1160 D)
19 Apr 08 UTC
Platinum -- another game of elemental diplomacy.
78 points. Points per Supply Center.

Positron says, "Platinum has 78 electrons."
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carnivalmafia (847 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
*** Need one more for big pot game!***
8 minutes left!
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carnivalmafia (847 D)
20 Apr 08 UTC
Paranoia: 100 point game looking for willing participants!
Sign up and let´s get the game started!
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Sun_Tzu (2116 D)
21 Apr 08 UTC
Problem with game: Yellow Submarine
I move Burgundy to Marseilles with support from Spain and Gascony. The army in Marseilles only had one support and the move didn't go! I double chech the order!
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pitirre (0 DX)
13 Apr 08 UTC
why communism is a bad word?
our friend guangshao continuosuly calls everyone a "communist" as if it is a kind of a bad word or if that person is the devil himself. are we still in the cold war? why communism is bad an capitalism good? is fidel castro the devil and george bush an angel of god?

tell me guang, am i blacklisted?
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Careless (0 DX)
20 Apr 08 UTC
What's better? A Dog or a Cat?
Dogs obviously:)
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menace3society (927 D)
20 Apr 08 UTC
Vexacious Vexilium
I bought into a CD France for 1D. The current phase is retreats, of which I have none to do, but there's still an (x) next to my name on the roster anyway. Any idea what gives?

Game url: http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3439
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The Mahatma (1195 D)
14 Apr 08 UTC
Capitalists vs. Non-capitalists
I propose a Diplomacy game between declared supporters of capitalism and communists/non-capitalists/those not entirely crazy about capitalism. Given countries are assigned randomly, I'm not sure how it would be set up, but 3 of the powers would be the capitalists (England, France, Germany?) and the other 3 would be the non-capitalists. Italy would be in a state of anarchy or ambivalence.
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
17 Apr 08 UTC
Can you open this website?
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/

When I try to open this website, I enter another called easyspace...

Anyone can help? Thanks!!

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fwancophile (164 D)
19 Apr 08 UTC
just wanted to say
god damnit i hate being austria. worst country ever.
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Commander Thomas (395 D)
19 Apr 08 UTC
join my game "battle 67"
hey would some other people please like to join me thanks
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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
18 Apr 08 UTC
Payola Variant
Anyone ever tried playing it? Completely different game but looks like fun....

http://devel.diplom.org/DipPouch/Zine/W1996A/Tarzan/Basics.html
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