mother fuck this pisses me off so damned much - i miss these turns by like what, 4 hours? now i'm going to get my ass roasted instead of roasting someone else's undeserving but on-time ass.

Punctuality is a virtue.

I agree though, there should be variable time limits.

punctuality is NOT a virtue - talk about nonsense. only the liberal multicultural PC fascists could view punctuality as a virtue. 'vee must bee on time so zat we can BAN ZE CIGARETTES SIEG HEIL'

s'esly tho, could we have some sort "hold" tab? like, i click "HOLD" and the game doesn't go forward even if i am skeptical on whether or not the game is moving forward?

look im sorry but this just grinds my gears

I am strongly in favour of 25hr turns, and I have nothing against 36, but that should be an option not a default. 25 would allow you to get onto the PC at aproximately the same time the next day without missing the turn

yes but some people do not adhere to these strictly regimented schedules and need the more day-and-a-half view to get by =p

Agree. 36hours would be just grate

I'd even be down for the option of 12hr turns. Unlike SOME people, I believe in promptness.

ya 36 hrs sounds good.

Come on guys, if we allow you to have 36 turns, you will ask for 48 hours! 24 is enough!

its not just a number, its a thing - a day is a thing, and sometimes there is not the time in the day - apparently - to get here and do the turn?

by the way, some very esteemed people do not believe in promptness. in some senses, we need to europeanize this motherfucker like its italy.

I'm all for 36 hours. But a variable time limit is probably the most humane way to bring about such a change. There are some people who like playing really fast games, I know that there has been some effort made to co-ordinate the play of an entire game in a single weekend. There are also some people who play more in tune with the old postal Diplomacy, by e-mail, or by long term F2F, where the turn lengths are much longer, months in some postal games.

I still think that people do too little Diplomacy, and people are too quick to hit the finalize button after entering their orders for the first time. Take your time, negotiate with everyone, make sure you know exactly what you want to do. I personally don't finalize and let the 24 hours run on, for these and other reasons.

Forcing the turn limit above 24 hours would be a bad idea. It just extends the time that 6 players sit waiting for the 7th to go into CD.

I agree that oftentimes players don't converse enough and Finalize but I don't think that extending the turn time will really get people to talk more.

There's two points to be made here.

1. A turn runs 24 hours, true, but it's 24 hours from the last person to finalise. If you go online and place your orders at the very start of a turn, then don't finalise, in effect you have 48 hours before you need to return to the computer, possibly longer if there are retreat/build phases you're not involved in. So unless you are leaving it to the last minute to enter your orders every turn, you do have more than 24 hours.

2. Aren't you putting more pressure on yourself by playing in 8 or more games at once? If there is going to be a delay and you know you're going to be cutting it fine, you'll have to enter 8 sets of orders before the deadline.

nah i have plenty of time but sometimes my time is taken from and given to me in chunks that do not neatly fit into the 24/48 hour window :-/

variable from 12 to 36 would be good. If this can't be done, then i think that 24is sufficient.

Variable at game creation time, maybe increments of 6 hours to allow for a genuinely fast game (6) to a leisurely (weekly)!

sounds good

24 is a good standard time, because as said before, it can actually be turned into a 48 time-span by updating your orders and not finalizing.

However, i would also like to see variable time limits availiable at game creation. There should be a range, like crimson suggested, to keep people from making games with ridiculously short or long time spans.

I think it depends on the person starting the game- give the option of say 12, 24, 36, and 48 at the creation, and ensure that people are aware of the turn time before joining. Then you can join a game that reflects the amount of time you have to play.

I agree with the post above. The solution is easy - the game creator should be able to specify the number of hours for the move deadline, anywhere from 1-99, say. In fact, this solution is already in place on Facebook. Facebook is loathsome, but at least that dude figured out how to allow for peoples' different needs with respect to move deadlines.

It's not hard to do spinebag, but it does increase the server load and database size. I do still agree however, and I have a detailed view on how it could be implemented, which would allow you to have non-weekend games etc, allowing for people who go away from internet connections then

You're right, of course, I wasn't thinking about the added load on the server. I suspect that it would also increase participation which would, in turn, increase demand on the server. These are good problems to have, so I look forward to the day when Kestas feels that the site is ready for these updates.

It would be harder to set up possibly, but it would be nice to have an option of determining move time limits when setting up a game. If someone wants a 12hr time limit, then great. You could also choose 24hr, 36hr, and 48hr time limits. For those who want to try to complete a game in one day, maybe a 1hr time limit could be an option. As for myself, I would be intrigued by a 24hr time limit game with no orders due on weekends.

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What the hell, I opened this thread in another tab and the new thread I was trying to create wound up as a response here.

Back on-topic: Me and my group would really appreciate being able to set the order time limit. While just being able to change the 24 hr to something else would be nice (and presumably easy to implement) an even better solution would be to also allow setting a specific time when orders are due each day/week/month, such as "spring orders by 5:00 Tues, fall by 5:00 Thurs".

i agree with fwancophile, 36 hours instead of 24 would be great.

I like the current 24 because if you log on once every 24 hours and put in all your moves you will never miss a turn. Once a day is reasonable for most people.

Although - options, options, options, makes much more people happy. I would enjoy a 12 hour game as well.

I agree with Brutorix.

I'm for the current 24 hour as well. I'm busy myself but I always make sure I squeeze in time to move at night/linch etc.

Although I feel that Figle's suggestion of 25 hour tiem pohases would be brill.