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binkman (416 D)
09 Nov 11 UTC
Something fishy
Seems like something fishy is happening in this game: gameID=70935
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semck83 (229 D(B))
09 Nov 11 UTC
NBA lockout
What do people think?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Even Ali Has To Be Feeling Sad Right Now...
http://sports.yahoo.com/box/blog/box_experts/post/-8216-Smokin-8217-Joe-Frazier-loses-his-battl?urn=box-wp849

The death of one of the greatest boxers who ever lived, and a huge part of the sports and cultural scene of the 1970s...may the epic Ali/Fraizer fights live on forever, and Joe be forever Smokin' Hot. RIP
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Humans can already beat a killer astroid?
Who knew? I feel much better about civilization averting asteroid apocalypse, but then again Global warming is going to do us in anyway. Too bad...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45192148/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.TrmBJLIb5Zc
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jdog97 (100 D)
09 Nov 11 UTC
new game
Join World war 3
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
07 Nov 11 UTC
Erasing the signs of aging?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111103120605.htm

Thoughts?
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gman314 (100 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Not CDing
See inside.
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faded (100 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Rules/order clarification
Ok, so can someone help me work out what the outcome of the following orders would be?

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Diplomat33 (243 D(B))
06 Nov 11 UTC
The game. www.losethegame.com
You all loose.
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Zarathustra (3672 D)
08 Nov 11 UTC
Rule question! Retreat edition!
Just looking for a quick reminder (I'm still working the rust out of my long absence). If Austria's Vienna Army supports its Army in Bohemia to Tyrolia and Italy moves its Tyrolia army to Bohemia, can an Austrian Army dislodged from Silesia retreat to Bohemia?
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Cockney (0 DX)
02 Nov 11 UTC
NFL Pick Em: Week 9
I thought I would help out, add scores and do my turn this week (a bit early)

If i have missed anyone out - apologies-oh and i wont say there are lots of "blow outs" as everytime someone says that on here, something weird happens like the Rams beating the Saints!
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Cockney (0 DX)
07 Nov 11 UTC
tedious....
gameID=71677

surely a draw?
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Sicarius (673 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Are you an anarchist?
The answer may surprise you.
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totya (100 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Magyarok ide!
Nem tudom van e már ilyen topic, de jó lenne, ha egy jó kis csapat összejönne. :)
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SpeakerToAliens (147 D(S))
07 Nov 11 UTC
A couple of questions about American courts.
In the UK, when a jury has a verdict the judge asks them what the verdict is and they say it out loud. In the 'States, once a jury reaches a verdict, they write it down on a piece of paper and hand it to the judge, He or she reads it and then hands it back and someone in the jury reads it out.

Why do they hand it to the judge first? What does this achieve?
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Ges (292 D)
04 Nov 11 UTC
WebDip Book Club?
Since there are so many well-read, historically-minded, opinionated members on the site, I thought it might be fun to read and discuss a book with anyone who is interested.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
06 Nov 11 UTC
What are some good songs to sing unaccompanied (that aren't that hard)
When the sun goes down in the village there is nothing to do, so sometimes my family asks me to sing for them.. know any good songs?
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
04 Nov 11 UTC
Movember
Does this exist in other parts of the world?
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
07 Nov 11 UTC
the embodied mind
also interesting stuff... Mind is more than just brain, a bigger step away from dualistic thought.

http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/11/04/a-brief-guide-to-embodied-cognition-why-you-are-not-your-brain/
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
07 Nov 11 UTC
The Masters Rounds 7 and 8
So I've spent pretty much the whole weekend working on the spreadsheets and finding out how TrustMe did it, but now I've got everything I need to become (temporary) TD and with Geofram's help get this thing back up and running.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
04 Nov 11 UTC
The Biggest Threat To Liberty is _____ (?)
I say a Lack of Education:
It was with more education we got out of the Stone Ages and into the Greco-Roman era...and then when education made a comeback, we had the Renaissance...and then the Englightenment...and then Civil Rights/Suffrage movements...cured diseases, more production...but currently my home state is 48th in education and the West is most of my doctors ARE from India...what's your take? Biggest threat is...what?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
New Ghost Ratings up
tournaments.webdiplomacy.net
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Question: Are battles really, when it comes down to it, historically important?
See inside.
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goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
06 Nov 11 UTC
A Question on the Masters
See below
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Favio (385 D)
07 Nov 11 UTC
Probably not new game play idea, maybe for tourneys
Is there a tourney here that we could do a Triple vs Triple deal with a rogue Italy? I think if we have enough players that would be a fun thing to do. I think best would be 7 players or 49. Could be fun. Let me know if anyone is interested or has a way to make it a better idea.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
05 Nov 11 UTC
How to be an American College Student
My own work.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
03 Nov 11 UTC
Chainsaw Diplomacy Public Press
Any of you idiots capable of processing the simple concept? Details inside..
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
03 Nov 11 UTC
Minor Car Trouble
So, I've been having a little trouble with my car and I'm trying to fix it myself without going to a shop. So far, my attempts haven't been successful and my internet searches have been less than helpful. I thought someone here may be able to give me some tips. Details inside.

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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
02 Nov 11 UTC
The Top 10 Most Important Battles of All-Time
Pretty self-explanatory...if you want to try and rank your picks, bonus points.
I WILL give one caveat--all of my picks ARE slanted towards the West, that's just my bias...don't know enough Eastern Theatre battles to really include many, and those that do make my list are because the West drove back the East...so you can include Eastern battles--please do!--but I don't known them, so can't include them. Let the War of the Words begin! :)
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ulytau (541 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
But Mongolia is still excellent in Asia, second only to Taiwan if we disregard island microstates.
Putin33 (111 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
Freedom House, people take those spooks seriously?
ulytau (541 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
I just looked on the wiki to see the rating, don't know what they stand for. The page also said they were charged with anti-Marxist bias during the 80s while simultaneously being charged for a left-wing bias. I'm not really interested in finding out who was more right then, though, these ratings are not really my cup of tea.
Sicarius (673 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
...and cajamarca?
ulytau (541 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
I regard it more as a success of subterfuge and ensuing massacre than a proper battle. Basically unarmed Incas facing a steel ladden conquistadors with cannons, firearms and horses.
Sicarius (673 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
So our criteria for a battle includes how fair it was?
@Sicarius - the criteria doesn't have much to do with fairness, but there is a correlation. Say one side is virtually guaranteed to win. What's the big point if they won? They would have sooner or later. That's why I don't see the fall of Constantinople as a big deal, favoring the battles or Yarmouk and Manzikert that occured hundreds of years earlier and were battle which, had they gone a different way, would have changed history. If the Byzantines survived the siege in 1453, they would have been put under siege 20 years later and the city would fall then, etc.
ulytau (541 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
That's a valid point, we don't. I meant the fact that the battle was won before it even began since Pizzaro made sure Incas wouldn't have weapons. From all the battles mentioned, this one was simply impossible to lose, heck the only wound Spaniards suffered was when Pizzaro guarded Atahualpa from his soldier's blade. But I guess that doesn't disqualify it as a battle so yep, that was an important one. Still wouldn't rate it as a top 10, though.
ulytau (541 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
And the reason why it isn't in the top is what goldfinger wrote. Some battles were decisive moments, others were a inevitable result of some forces. This one is somewhere between. If Pizzaro managed to screw up and die (almost impossible) Incas could overcome their crisis and could hold on for much longer. The probability of not being colonized in the long term would be still slim though.
Sicarius (673 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
I dont think pizzaro had anything at all to do with the incas not having weapons at the battle when atahuallpa. As I recall It was a poor descision on the part of atahuallpa and having nothing to do with pizzaro (a show of force I beleive). ah here it is

"Pizarro gathered his officers on the evening of November 15 and outlined a scheme that recalled memories of Cortés' exploits in Mexico in its audacity: he would capture the emperor from within the midst of his own armies. Since this could not realistically be accomplished in an open field, Pizarro invited the Inca to Cajamarca. According to the chroniclers, no one slept that night and some even "wet themselves in their terror".

Atahualpa accepted this invitation. Leading a procession of over eighty thousand men, he advanced down the hillside very slowly the next day. Pizarro's fortunes changed dramatically in the late afternoon when Atahualpa announced that the greater part of his host would set up camp outside the walls of the city. He requested that accommodations be provided only for himself and his retinue, which would forsake its weapons in a sign of amity and absolute confidence."

If this is a thread about almosts and so closes then I think this fits the bill amazingly well.
It basically boils down to pizzaro and his band of... urine soaked men lol, lucking the fuck out, atahuallpa being overconfident. Lets just say atahuallpa decided not to make his soldiers wear ceremonial woven armor and carry no weapons. one single decision by one single man. does anyone here belive that 160 odd men (even with horses and primitive firearms) could defeat 80,000 well trained soldiers from a trans-continental empire, fresh from a civil war victory?
If this battle had gone differently, I think the history of S. America would have played out very differently indeed.
lionhearted (503 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
Julius Caesar crossing the Rubicon - while not a battle - deserves an honorable mention.

In Asia, Admiral Yi Sun-Sin beating the Toyotomi Naval Forces stopped Japan from conquering Korea and China... you might have had a pan-Japanese East Asia if not, and the world would have looked very different. It also triggered the decline of Toyotomi and led to Tokugawa Ieyasu being able to wrest wrest power decisively away at Sekigahara 3 years later, and the Tokugawa government had Japan go isolationist for the next 250 years. Very, very different world if Admiral Yi doesn't cut the Japanese supply lines at sea, since they had dominance on land in Korea.
lionhearted (503 D)
05 Nov 11 UTC
Also, nobody realized quite how important it was at the time, but Muhammad's conquest of Mecca from the Quraysh turned out to be a really big deal.
bill777 (100 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
Lionhearted, I thought I was the only one on here who recognized the importance of that event.


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President Eden (2750 D)
06 Nov 11 UTC
WHOOOOOOOOO YEAAAAAAAAAAH
You only wish your team won the most epic college football game of all time.
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