I hadn't anticipated that. I assume that this is all being done in secrecy, in which case, I would say keep the totals secret (otherwise we might be able to work out who voted for what etc.)

If you can, please try and keep a record figle - would be great to add to an EOG statement! Many thanks for your help.

"I hadn't anticipated that" - it is. I'm not going to say who's voted and who hasn't, but i wanted to know when I'm to give the results - ie whats the end-of-phase for voting.
And sure, will do. To check then: what is the criteria for passing? 4/7 votes or are we following the more complex idea someone suggested

I may have missed the more complex idea - what was that?

I thought a simple majority would work, though what do we do in a tie? Allow or reject the build?

I did send you an e-mail figle can you confirm that you got it?

Oh, and I think that we allow a build in the event of a tie. I thought that was mentioned but maybe not.

Ah sorry, I've now replied to each message I've got.

Yeah, build is allowed in the event of a tie.

The real question is does he just announce which builds are allowed? Or does he also put out the vote totals?

Good question...I'd be in favor of either: listing the number of votes per territory or not at all.

Well, I've obviously got a count at the moment, so you say when you've decided.
When am I revealing the results?

I'd say reveal the results just as soon as you received them all.

In fact, if you have them all now, you could simply reveal who gets how many builds right now! We can always add the list of votes per territory later should we decide to do it.

Unfortunately I do not have all the data yet, so hey. I'll be on a bit tomorrow, but at what time do you want me to reveal them if I _dont_ get the data in? Otherwise you might miss the phase cycle (unless you choose to pause this phase?)

Oh, right...I forgot about abstentions. Someone mentioned Tuesday at 2pm as the deadline for votes (12 hours before the deadline)...but if my math is correct, as long as you post them by about this time tomorrow (see my time stamp), we should be good, I think.

I'm in EST...it is 4:30pm, Monday, Oct. 13 here.

I stated on global chat that the outcome of the voting should be revealed by Figles (but not exact details of who voted for whom). at some point you'll be able to work out based on the SC count... or may be not.

Right, well I'm going to be a few hours early with this declaration then because I'm not going to have access at 12hrs, and I don't want you to miss them because I was late!
England, your control of NORWAY is RECOGNIZED
France, your control of BELGIUM is RECOGNIZED
France, your control of PORTUGAL is RECOGNIZED
Italy, your control of TUNIS is RECOGNIZED
Germany, your control of HOLLAND is RECOGNIZED
Germany, your control of DENMARK is RECOGNIZED
Austria, your control of SERBIA is REJECTED
Russia, your control of SWEDEN is REJECTED
Turkey, your control of BULGARIA is RECOGNIZED
Turkey, your control of RUMANIA is REJECTED

Much appreciated... so we'll get the detailed vote count at a later date then i assume?

Thanks...

Any requests regarding how to present the votes next time? I am not sure if the way I did it was what you required.

I must admint I'm not quite sure which set of votes were yours, but they were all fine. Personal preference for me would be to get them sorted by country, but it doesn't really matter.
Sure, I'll keep all your emails. Just to question, are rejected invasions allowed to be reapplied for. Ie, next phase can Turkey apply to have control of Rumania ratified?

yes.

Figles - when are you going to tell us the results of the votes? (assume you didn't have time before). By that I mean number of votes cast in each direction (but not who cast the votes).

I don't believe that was part of the agreement for the reasons set out in the thread above?

Well that wasn't my intention when I suggested we might try secret ballots for this variant..... in all voting/elections I'm aware of you always find out the margin of victory (even if individual votes are secret).

I also didn't see the majority vote against revealing the result of the vote (only that individual votes were hidden).

wow, this variation sounds tricky. what will you do when one member is killed off and you have a voting pool of 6? what punishments do you have for screw ups/accidental builds?

Nothing gets cancelled without a majority.

And screw-ups we'll work out case-by-case. You won't last long if you've pissed everyone off in diplomacy by breaking a rule.

Well, as I understood I was to save all the information up and tell you at the end of the game. If you lot want me to tell you now I can, but I thought i was supposed to keep them secret.
Sean - tell me about it :P

Uh-oh...Austria is screwed.

not necessarily. Figles keep stum until we decide to reveal or not... much appreciated. Lots of intrigue at the moment though, EOG statement will be pretty amusing... i defy anyone to figure out exactly who voted for what in 1901.

lol...yep, the votes have definitely proved themselves interesting, even if they complicate things a bit.

Yes, everyone's first instinct was to turn around and accuse their prospective allies of stabbing them! Most amusing.

Besides, I actually think this may lead to a lot of short term alliances. It will be very interesting.

Hehe, I know all :D

I'll give you five dollars if you tell me who voted against Sweden... haha. Only joking.

5 - I was offered 20 not to tell you!

That's what I meant. Inflation's a *****.