So, your in a long running one day game and a holiday comes up and it gives you, effectively, a second day. May not be near enough...

you could all decide on the length of a pause before the pause somehow

No that isn't practical Danwalsh34.

yeah how so, frito.

Which problems are you trying to solve by this solution?

The problem is, dingleberry, that as it is someone might go on holidays and convince everyone to Pause. When they get back, the person in the game who is losing doesn't agree to unpause and the game just sits there in pause.

The solution solves the problem because the pause has a specific end time. I also think being able to set the pause length is a good idea.

bbdaniels, is this a response to our paused game that a certain player refuses to unpause?

If they say that in print, get a mod. They'll unpause the game for you. Check the FAQ for the e-mail. You don't need to inconvenience everyone with an implementation of your suggestion.

Wel well, touchy are we? How is it an inconvenience? It's part of a bigger point here...

Wait, were you talking to bbdaniels, JECE?

Yes, I was. :-) The first part about getting a mod was also to TheDeacon, maybe you adnd to whomever it may concern.

adnd --> and

That's what she said!!!!!

I like the idea of a pause with a finite known length so everyone knows exactly when the game will resume.

In the settings that create the game, I suggest adding a setting for "pause length" just in case everyone votes for a pause. Then for example, if a live game went on for too long, we could all vote pause and it would be guaranteed to restart at a predictable time. This would solve the problem of a live game, once paused, that never can get started again because all 7 people are not online at the same time. I've had that happen about a dozen times, not exaggerating. So in this example if I created a live game with 5 minute phases, I might set the pause length to 30 or 60 minutes.

Another example: for a phase length game of 24 hours, a pause of x days could be set in advance when the game is created, for example 7 days, if you want to allow for 1-week vacations.

Another thing I've wanted to do many times is a weekend or 3-day game that runs live for say 4 hours, then pauses for 20 hours and starts again. This would allow a 3-day game to be played for example at 4 PM on Fri, Sat, and Sun. I think adding a pause-length setting in the initial game creation could handle this.

It would be better if we simply had a month long pause that can be unpaused by votes. Should solve everything.

I disagree. A month is usually much too long. I would still like to set a pause length like we set a phase length.

A pause length would solve a lot of problems. How you get everyone to agree to the same amount of time could be tricky though.

One person might propose a 3 day pause and another person might want to counter-propose a 4 day pause. Or for a live game, someone might propose a pause that'll start the game back up at 4pm the next day, but someone else might want it to start at 5pm.

I suppose the first person to ask for a pause would specify a time. Then everyone else that just votes to pause without specifying a time are accepting whatever the current time is. But you could also vote to pause for a longer time which would count towards agreeing for the shorter time but would allow others to re-vote for the longer time as well. Or something like that.

I like the phase length idea as it removes the confusion.

But it stops you actually having a holiday General, so I'm completely against it.

I like the idea of saying Pause for <x>, but implementation would be an issue as Ald says.
I think it would work if everyone could vote to pause for a certain length of time, and iff [sic] everyone had voted then the game would be paused for the shortest of these times.
However, if everyone then raised this value it could be extended, or indeed if everyone voted to unpause it would finish early

Yeah, that's basically what I was trying to say but I think you said it better. Thanks Fig.

Deacon, that wasn't my question. I understand the problems with pauses. However, I didn't see which problem the suggestion made was trying to solve. The pause of one phase turn doesn't solve most of the problem involved.\

While it does solve the problem of restarting a game, it probably won't solve the problem that caused someone to ask for a pause in the first place. My assumption is that most pauses are usually needed for longer than the phase length. My reason for assuming this: If I am in a game of 24 hour phases and am going to be gone for 24 hours, I will just not finalize my last set of moves before my needed pause time. Assuming I've manipulated the game well enough, I can probably get 36 hours between when I need to enter moves that way.

So the suggestion doesn't solve the issue of longer pauses, which is the more likely scenario.

Why not have the pause length 2 weeks. If not unpaused by then, it does it automatically. If everyone votes unpause before then, the game continues at that point.

"Why not have the pause length 2 weeks. "

Better yet, how about a pause length of x times the phase length.

Again, suppose you were to go away for 3 weeks then, and everyone was happy with this jim?
Is there really a big issue with the pause system anyway?

If you are going away for 3 weeks...Don't get into a game.

Why not Jim?
Some games take a long time, and you might be in it well before, not expecting it to run up and into your holiday. Besides, if you go its up to the others in your game to decide with you. I'm not saying they have to accept it, but I don't see why you should make this impossible with the system.

I agree with Dingle. a pause length of x times the phase length. That could be set up in the intial game setup, as I was saying above.

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