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SuperflyDi (79 D)
25 Jan 08 UTC
Books
I can recommend a few unusual books that are in my estimation really excellent for different reasons.
They are:
The matamorphoses by Ovid- It's Greek mythology. It is not only an ancient text but its inriguing, philosophical and fascinating. It would definitely take you away to another place you never thought possible. Read it to escape and inspire thought in you.

-A Hero of our time by Mikhail Lermontov- this is a Russion philosophical book that I adore for many reasons, but primarily because there is a sociological and historical element. It's ultimately a story about love and friendship. In the story he states that friendship does not exist because there's always someone that gives and one that takes in every relationship. so sometimes you're the giver and other times you'd find you are the taker. This has made me analyze my relationships and friendships.

- The Large, the small and the human mind by Roger Penrose and Malcolm Longair. This a good and complex read so I haven't finished it but I picked it up at the bookstore because of the title.

Ofcourse there are more, but those are a good start. :)
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
25 Jan 08 UTC
Join this game: advanced
5 more hours to go, and 3 more players to go...
Please join for a pleasant, medium roller.
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comerade marx (102 D)
25 Jan 08 UTC
freshmeat
a game for the noobs (including myself) 15d
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
25 Jan 08 UTC
omg
anyone interested in a new 100+ game? please make one :-)
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Darwyn (1601 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
What's acceptable in negotiating your way back into a game?
I've been accused of NOT playing in the spirit of the game and I'm a little peeved. I offer up my situation to the forum for some insight. Perhaps I am completely wrong.

Here it is...

Having the most SC's (11) midway through a game, I had been stabbed by two players simultaneously of similar power (country A and country B). No problems there. That's what happens.

However, facing defeat and in an effort to get country A to back off so that I may be spared, I pointed out that his continued attack would ultimately result in his partner's victory (country B), not his.

Now, here's where I may have crossed the line and have been accused of not playing in the spirit of diplomacy...I told A that I would help facilitate B's victory by basically, committing my forces to only fight A, not B...leaving B to take from me what he wishes.

Is this or is this not playing in the spirit of diplomacy?

I would argue that my defeat is imminent and that this is my only bargaining chip and that, therefore, is well within the spirit of the game.

Either way, I'd very much like some input and to also pose the question:

What is or isn't acceptable negotiation tactics given imminent defeat? I think this question goes well with the recent "playing to win" topics that have been posted.

Thoughts?
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LighthouseGuard (28 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
A newbie's sorrow
Hi everyone, I'm new both to Diplomacy and phpdiplomacy.net.
It may be because I'm playing at the bottom of the barrel, but I've found my games to be very unsatisfying. It's only for one reason: every time anything I say isn't absolute truth, my enemies raise a huge stink about it. In one game, I told all of my potential enemies that I had another country as my allies - and I was heavily berated for it (I won't repeat these words, they're unsuitable for children if there are any out there).
I know it's obvious that I should ignore them, but it's difficult not to let it bother me. It seems that whenever I make a move towards victory I stir up bad feelings.
I just want to know a few things. First of all, is there a code of honor in this game present that stops one from backstabbing others? Secondly, how can I avoid bad feelings and still win?
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oziodip (297 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
why i can't retreat?
here
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2611
why the fleet in STP can't retreat?
if i order to retreath i have no destination, but why i can't go to gulf or filland?
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MarekP (12864 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Draw request
Kestas, please set up a draw in the game id 2434 (In For A Penny) once two other players express their agreement.
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csibadajoz (527 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
One bug more....
At game 'Supermonkey' German had a dislogged fleet at SWE. After retreat this fleet appears at.... KIEL.

Kestas, Am I in true or my eyes lies me?
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roger941994 (430 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
question
how can i stop the convoy?
i am Turkey, my fleet at Aegean Sea attempted to attack the fleet at Eastern Mediterranean, but it cannot stopped Italy convoy??

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2766
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T B0NE (100 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Quick dumb question
Can you go from Finland to Norway with a fleet?
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
Draws
As pointed out by Noodlebug in another thread, an alarming number of games are ending in draws. This is just a suggestion, and I don't know which side i come on yet, but the thought:
To end a game in a draw you need a valid reason
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fastspawn (1625 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
I will be starting a 500 point, winner takes half game in a couple of days depending on who wants to
I know its quite a stringent requirement, but hopefully, if there are enough quality players to play it, it will be great fun.

So if you are currently locked in games with lotsa points at stake, post your interest here, and try to make it end fast. thanks
fastspawn (1625 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
i decide to make it 1000 points, k?
Rait (10151 D(S))
23 Jan 08 UTC
I could afford this game & would be interested, but the thing is that I'm pretty busy during the coming month, so I actually decided to reduce the number of games to 0 ASAP
sean (3490 D(B))
23 Jan 08 UTC
rait that will mean you are not making any more moves in the no press game we are playing? cool:)
Rait (10151 D(S))
23 Jan 08 UTC
no, that doesn't mean that :)
fastspawn (1625 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
so does that mean you want in rait?
Rait (10151 D(S))
23 Jan 08 UTC
I'm hesitating at the moment - I'm not sure I could show some
real devotion in this game while I'm going crazy with my work
Withnail160 (1204 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
who the hell thinks work is more important than Diplomacy?
I never heard that before
thewonderllama (100 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
rait, what about the tournament? does that mean you won't be playing in round 2?
Rait (10151 D(S))
23 Jan 08 UTC
I try to stick to my current obligations (including the tournament), but I try to force back my ego & not to take any new challenges (especially when we talk about 1K game where participating players would probably kill each-other to take the prize). I think I will be more active in March-April.
Noodlebug (1812 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Count me out until play-to-win is implemented! I've no objection to playing in a 1000-point game, but I do object to three or four ratings-whores refusing to stop [Rait/Dangermouse/fastspawn/anyone-but-me] winning because they might risk losing some precious points.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Can I ask who you mean by that, because as far as I can tell you just keep badmouthing the entire site with vague insults! Now, I understand exactly what you're saying, I don't agree, but I understand.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Sorry, I won't bring the point into this thread - lets let this stay about Noodle's game: I've mentioned it in the other thread instead. We'll try and keep on topic for once!
Rait (10151 D(S))
24 Jan 08 UTC
What was that about Noodle? I must admit that I feel a little-bit insulted to be called a 'rating-whore'. I also didn't fully get Your point. Would You care to elaborate Your judgement?

Speaking about points - I couldn't care less - You can have all of my points if You want....
thewonderllama (100 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
@rait: actually i believe he was calling anyone who refuses to stop you, or anyone else for that matter, from winning a rating-whore. not you. you're obscene victory percentage ought to keep you free of those accusations. :)
The Mahatma (1195 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Simmer down Noodle! I can't believe I'm saying this, but the points system is here to stay and so people playing for points is something you are going to have to live with.

And Rait, if people had known points were transferrable, maybe there wouldn't be so many alleged multi-accounters! People would do the more savvy thing of creating several accounts and then just transferring all the points to one account without negatively impacting gameplay!

I did ask for a loan when you posted your 8000+ game, but my credit rating was too low. I propose transferrable points for the next upgrade!
Noodlebug (1812 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
Rait I'm not having a go at you, people who try to win every game (or in your case, actually DO win every game!) have my admiration and support! Their names are well known here.
It's the career second- (and third- and fourth-)placers I have issues with. I hope everyone else will join me in a Grand Alliance against them!
Rait (10151 D(S))
24 Jan 08 UTC
Ok, sorry for overreacting to Noodle's comment, I clearly misunderstood the point (like I suspected). But either way it's also not nice to call any other player who doesn't work directly against me (or other aforementioned players), a 'rating-whore'. This kind of attitude will lead to ganging up against You solely due to Your reputation, which will distort the normal game-play (which I see more & more). I have even thought deleting my current account & re-starting with a new one to be able to play without any 'additional luggage'.
Noodlebug (1812 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
People seem to gang up against me in every game already (even though I've been nowhere near winning one for months!). I don't think I'm going to lose anything more by ranting about it!
fastspawn (1625 D)
24 Jan 08 UTC
dude, just post on another thread. Apparently everyone is too chicken to play this game. I'm upping the ante here, if kestas will allow it.

1000 point game, winner takes all. Is it even possible?
alamothe (3367 D(B))
24 Jan 08 UTC
hahahah


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Labond (140 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
Request for Draw - Game: Hells Territory
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2476

Please post to confirm unanimous vote for a draw.

Thank you GM.
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
23 Jan 08 UTC
Question on Support Holds
Would it be possible for a fleet in Bothnia to support hold a fleet in St. Petersburg North Coast; similarly for Bulgaria or Spain?
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GumboGino (320 D)
22 Jan 08 UTC
Not to blame but ...
obitey, Joined: Tue 08 Jan,
http://phpdiplomacy.net/profile.php?uid=4524
ziggy3, Joined: Tue 08 Jan,
http://phpdiplomacy.net/profile.php?uid=4506

Are these the same person or close friends that joined, the same day, and signed up for same 4 games ?
Can anybody confirm?
Per exemple in this game I'm in: (the european powas )
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2680
they both ceased filling their orders the same date. It looks like both are going "Civil Disorder" real soon.
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Iggy24 (151 D)
22 Jan 08 UTC
DipFTW!
My new game. 69 points...hehe. Let the fun begin!
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sean (3490 D(B))
22 Jan 08 UTC
best of phpdiplomacy
a while back pitirre posted about various awards relating to phpdiplomacy. Im not sure where they came from but maybe we should have a thread about a more representative straw poll.
how about these awards

1.best tactical player
2.best strategic player
3.best ally
4.best(or should that be worst?) traitor

any others?

i will vote (from the limited number of games ive played )
1. dangermouse tie with wonderlama
2.rait
3 flashman
4. hmm i need to check my games , may have blanked out my memory of him, it was too cruel
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
23 Jan 08 UTC
Private Messenging.
For a feature, it would be really cool if you could privately message a user who isn't in one of your games. Of course you can use email, but if they hide it or if you just like the fact that everything is in this one browser it would be cool. No biggie if it can't/won't be done of course.
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macresto (100 D)
22 Jan 08 UTC
Replacing other players
Hi all
I have untill now replaced two players in games where the odds are very strongly against me, to put it mildly. I really hate when people just leaves a game leaving the rest hanging, as I am sure the rest of you do. But I think there is a problem in the replacement procedure, as the good-hearted replacer is charged with having to throw in the full amount of starting points to the pot, regardless of him having absolutely no chance of winning. Isn't it in all players interests, that vancancies are filled? I don't think punishing people like me should be the way to do this. I can always create a new account, so the problem for me isn't big, it's just that the procedure seems to eb about forcing people to stay out of games, rather than go in a help finishing a game...
Cheers, Macresto
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pitirre (0 DX)
21 Jan 08 UTC
new game; Pride
you got some pride and 100 points; play at "Pride"!

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Brutorix (100 D)
21 Jan 08 UTC
An 'advanced' guide?
I was thinking and thought it might be a good idea to have a guide to diplomacy on the site that goes beyond the intro, an 'advanced guide' or something along those lines. One that includes tips and tricks on how to make/break alliances, identify lies and plan ahead.

Is there any support for this or something along these lines?
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macresto (100 D)
22 Jan 08 UTC
Diplomacy is a game of.....diplomacy, isn't it?!?
Hi all. New to this place and allready begun playing. Just wondering how to contact other players in the game and start doing diplomacy. But I can't seem to find out how to contact the various players with regards to negotiations?!?

Cheers, Daniel
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Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
21 Jan 08 UTC
41-pointer
There is a new pointer on the game list!
After the legendary 50-pointer and the 19-pointer, here comes the 41-pointer.

Please, all experienced players, join.
There is a list of players who may not join.

Firstly, Smartjason and his associates.
(Budlight is for sure one, so don't barge in)
Secondly, those who open 'noob' games.
(This game is for experienced players. Don't join if you are a noob.)
Thirdly, Saradomian and kn2005 may not join.
(They always ally and Saradomian wins every time)

If you are not one of those, join!
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keeper0018 (100 D)
22 Jan 08 UTC
longest game on the site
hey all-

im sure somebody already asked this, but i want to know what the longest game on the site has been so far. the only reason i ask is because i am in a game where we can probably beat the record. thanks!

btw, if you're curious, here's the game that i'm in that has a chance to beat the record.

game name: "The Day Games:
game link: http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2349
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positron (1160 D)
21 Jan 08 UTC
Can you predict the last move?
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2603

Austria is about to win. How?
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sean (3490 D(B))
21 Jan 08 UTC
here come the koreans!
i see php has new language support up. the koreans are coming! protective, feisty(the girls:) vengeful, proud, noble and aggressive.
welcome to php.
* Sir.Sangchi (95)
* 제니세리 (90)
* nikekmh (72)

sorry for pointing you out guys i just hadn't seen foreign language support in php before. good to see more variety on this site too. does anybody know how many members there are? how many active members?
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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
22 Jan 08 UTC
Asian Games...
... available to anyone in the Asia-Pacific time zone! Once I get enough indications of interest will set it up. So who is in?

(Sorry about failure to sort out the last one - but promised myself I won't play more than 4 games at a time and wanted to get involved in the WW1 antics).
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Wombat (722 D)
19 Jan 08 UTC
Forum discussion matter
Just a random thread, but I've noticed that recently there have been many threads about metagaming/ mutiaccts etc.

This is boring- lets have a nice discussion like the vote for the best Dip player in History.

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sean (3490 D(B))
21 Jan 08 UTC
dislodged units
can a dislodged unit still cut support from a unit not connected to the units that dislodged it?
A attacks B
B supports C's attack on D
C attacks D
E attacks A and F supports it.
A is dislodged but is B support for C's attack cut?
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