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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
This Time On Philosophy Weekly: Nothing is Certain But Death, Taxes, and Obi's Postings
"How we deal with death is at least as important as how we deal with life" -the great philosopher James T. Kirk
Popular culture, art, philosophy, and religion all deal with death a lot, from Spock's death and rebirth to the life of Jesus to Poe to Plato's "Phaedo" to Hamlet. But what is death? Is it by nature good, bad, or indifferent? What is a good life, or death? Is there an afterlife? Hamlet called death The Undiscovered Country- what's this most Final Frontier like?
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☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
End of Game Statements
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
[Italy]

First of all, let me say, it was a great game played by all, and I was astonished that it really was a true 7 way draw.

Secondly, I'd like to thank Aussieboi for taking over the CD France and donating his 60 D to the pot for us to draw with. I also feel kind of bad, though, because it turned out to be a loss for him.

@ Austria: Did you not see Turkey's stab coming? I was very surprised you seemed willing to align yourself with him early, considering I had backed off and gone after France, and Austrio-Turkish alliances almost never work.

Also, was the self bounce in Albania in Autumn 1908 a mistake? I couldn't figure out what was going on - we had Turkey and we just blew things up.

@ Russia: Wow. I thought you were dead after 1901. Extraordinarily well played on your part, and thanks for not CDing like many would have after having a disband their first year.

@ Turkey: I was surprised (and thankful, given my opening) that you would move to Arm as an opening. It worked out alright for you, I guess, but it's not something I've ever seen before in a gunboat.

@ France: (Who can't really answer, because the first one CDed) Why did you insist on Tunis? You were only helping the leading power at the time (Turkey), and you could have just disbanded that fleet and given me one to help fight Turkey.

@ England: Why did you take so long to draw? You were in the worst position except for me (and arguably worse than I, since I was going to take Tunis in the fall).
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Oh nothing for me?

I think I did a admirable job fighting off succesfully both england and france for awhile.

And I'm ashamed we five way drew lol
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
*seven
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Why are you ashamed? I thought everyone played well and deserved it.

I wouldn't have minded eliminating a few people (I think Turkey and France may have been on the way out) but generally speaking, I don't mind including someone in the draw if they played a good game. I wouldn't forgo a solo for it, but I don't see any real difference in a two way draw and a seven way draw - everyone lost regardless.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I took over France, and really was about to rescind my draw offer when England agreed to it, especially that Germany was on its way out by the time the game was drawn.

☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
And you did do a good job of holding them off, but by the time you started holding them off, you had as many SC's as both of them combined. :-) Remember you and France were working together against England until you stabbed him. :-P
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Italy- it's ok, i am only new to this site and have now had 2 draws from 2 finished games. But i am a little disappointed i lost 11 D in the end cos of the 7-way draw
The Czech (39951 D(S))
01 Aug 10 UTC
The stab of Austria wasn't a stab. Since he wasn't going north, I thought he wanted me to go west. I even tried to make peace, twice.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I feel bad that you lost points for taking over a CD, but that wouldn't have worked. If you had withdrawn, I would have sent my three fleets after you and made you draw. :-)

And Germany, why did you vote pause? Did you need to go? I was confused...
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
You took one of his SC's. I think most people consider that a stab. :-)
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Also: I think this was my first live game where I never misordered something. :-)

That's probably because I had two units for the majority of the game though... :-)
killer135 (100 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=34868
two more needed
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
England, that's not nice, since you were the one that refused to draw the whole time. And i think your 3 fleets were better off taking Belgium and norway from Germany.

I would only have held out til Germany was dead
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
How does a new game have anything to do with the game just played??? Ii'm confused Killer?!
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I thought I had an appointment but its not for awhile yet. And no your wrong I didn't work with france one step of that game. Him and england worked together even after he stabbed england a fact which absolutely surprised me. Furthermore I had less builds for quite awhile than both of them and still made gaiins to their territory.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I was Italy. :-P
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Well you weren't working together, but you were certainly at peace. There was a good few years where you all were supporting each others holds.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Oh- well you only had 2 fleets, not 3
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
And why didn't Austria take Rome when he had every opportunity to do so?
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
And if we had eliminated Germany, I would have been very worried (Not that I could have done anything) about a Russian solo. There was no one to stop him except Germany.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I was about to build a third when I took Tunis from you.

And Austria wasn't going to take Rome because he knew he needed my help against Turkey - if he had attacked me, I would have thrown myself at him and Turkey would have likely soloed.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
It was a *very* precarious situation in the south.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
How do you know that Turkey would not have cut support like he did in Spring? lol... but i see ur point... and i think England and Turkey may have been able to handle Russia if needed
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Because I had it ordered to take it from Ionian. :-)
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
ah ok.... well i got Paris back so would not have disbanded
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Once again (smileyface? Not sure what to address you as wlol) I never support held him. He did me once as I guess a tendril of friendship. I took his tendril and stole paris
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Til i replaced france and took it off you:)
mdrltc (1818 D(G))
01 Aug 10 UTC
I'll address 'happy face' first, why did it take me so long to draw. I didn't draw because there was no reason for me to draw. I was holding my own and knew that as France held/progressed against Germany, I could gain position. I knew France had cd'd (pissed me off, I hate quitters and France had been my ally before he stabbed me in London) but I thought he came back in, I missed that it was someone new. I still thought I could work with France against Germany but found no opportunity to give another sign (although I was hoping that my move from London to German fleet in EC, thus cutting support for the attack on Brest) would be interpreted as a sign of alliance. I finally choose the draw after I took Holland and recognized that there was little opportunity for me to keep it. And I was getting tired. Really good game though.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I thought you had supported him back. I guess not. I wasn't really paying that much attention.

And you can always copy and paste the "☺". Or download an extension that will let you put in weird characters. :-)

I have a bunch. In retrospect, I wish I had named myself "♫". Is there any way to chance your name?
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I had no chance long run. If the old france had remained I can confidently day I had a chance, since he was an easily predictable foool but I couldn't fight russia france and england
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
i saw that move, England and it was appreciated- and from there i knew we could work together. Tho i was a little worried about your move to Nth Atlantic(tho probably to defend LVP), so i moved to Spain to protect Por if needed.
mdrltc (1818 D(G))
01 Aug 10 UTC
I agree that the old France was a fool. New France did well.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
where did you download them from? cos that would be cool!
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
In clarification, I'd rather be "☺", but the smiley doesn't really show up in a lot of places... So a good alternitive would be ♫ or ♪.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Well this is the one I'm using, but it will only work with Google Chrome (which is a great browser, by the way, if you're not using it).

http://www.chromeextensions.org/utilities/glyphs/

I'm sure there's one for Firefox though, which is what most people, and I'm guessing you, use. Search for "glyphs firefox extension" or "insert symbols firefox extension". I'm sure you'll find something.
mdrltc (1818 D(G))
01 Aug 10 UTC
The move to NAO was to protect Liverpool, though I thought there was a small possibility of the German EC fleet going to MAO. i debated about moving to MAO to bounce Garmany, but decided that would be interpreted as a provocative move. Ultimately I decided I had to protect LIV, moved to Irish Sea and was hoping
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
i use google chrome
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Well there you go. :-)
mdrltc (1818 D(G))
01 Aug 10 UTC
... was hoping that my 'non move' to MAO would be interpreted as a friendly sign.
mdrltc (1818 D(G))
01 Aug 10 UTC
So anyway, good game all.
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Yeah, it really was a great game.
Aussieboi (0 DX)
01 Aug 10 UTC
♫♪©®℗☻☺
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Yep gg all
Thucydides (864 D(B))
01 Aug 10 UTC
Why did russia draw looks like he could have tried for a win
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I think Austria and Turkey would have stopped him.
centurion1 (1478 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I was going to move everything east anyway
Stmeha (1897 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
i got my first enemy from spring 01 when Italy when straight for the attack. Luckily I guessed right on greed and managed to keep him out of both Vienna and Trieste, and thus I could hold the line. Then I really have no idea why you moved everything against France when you did, as that made the job easier for me.

I was suspecting that the Turkish stab would come sooner or later, but at the time it did I knew he wouldn't get much futher inland with Italy fighting for survival. As I had noticed Italy supporting the hold in Venice a move or two earlier I figured he wanted peace, so I stopped attacking him and just focused everything on Turkey. I could have taken a shot at Rome, but since Italy was also fighting Turkey I decided it was best if he was kept the size he was, allowing him to fight on for as long as possible.

Thankfully Russia stopped attacking me and starting working with me againts Turkey, which did help. I had a few moves that was too greedy, and i did missorder and bounce myself in Albania at one time, but I think in the long Run Turkey was slowly being pushed back, as I did managed to help Russia regain Sevastapol and have a stabile position there.

I do have to say a 7 way draw was a bit sad, I would atleast think we could get one or two out of the game first. A 7 way draw is just a waist of playing time
☺ (1304 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
I backed off because I could see that a war against you wasn't going to be profitable, whereas a war against France would be. (If you had let me wage war against France)


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Conservative Man (100 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Take the quz here. Tell your score, and read the arguments on the results page.
http://nogov4me.net/
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HeavyRevy (181 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Moderators on Cheaters
Just curious. Does anyone know how long it takes for the mods to usually check on a game when cheating of some kind is alleged? Thanks in advance!
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ben3076 (100 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
Join Live diplo. Password diplo 87
pa
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curtis (8870 D)
01 Aug 10 UTC
live gunboat wta
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JesusPetry (258 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
As I had told in a now locked thread...
http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?viewthread=602028

I misordered and the "wrong" order was better than the intended one.
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Raskolnikov_ (100 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Can we get a live game going?
I've joined/created four in the last hour with no luck. Can we get a standard live game going? I'll create it now.
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dwburke (301 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
WTA not true
The rules need to be changed concerning payouts in WTA game to preserve the true spirit of the game.
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Maniac (189 D(B))
31 Jul 10 UTC
English Premier League
WebDiplomacy Fantasy football (soccer) league is open to all comers.
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superman98 (118 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
WTA Live, 10 D bet
gameID=34828

starts in 20 minutes. 5min/phase, 10 D bet, Anonymous Players, Winner Takes All.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
29 Jul 10 UTC
So, Who'll Be The 45th President?
Yes We Can...give it another shot electing a leader in 2012. Now, for the record, this thread is NOT an Obama-bashing thread. This is not an invitation to slap around Obama, or Democrats, or Republicans. Obama's, simply put, a lame duck. I think he's a nice guy and really did want to help the country- he has failed. He's been utterly ineffective, and as of now I can't see him re-elected in 2012. So, who would you vote for, and who will win? (I say Colbert/Stewart in 2012!) ;)
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Kingdroid (219 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Help
I'm having an issue on a laptop. All game timers say the Next Phase is "Now" when they're not. I've cleared my cache and cookies, and ive tried on both FF and IE. Any suggestions? If I'm not supposed to post it here I'm sorry.
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Ursa (1617 D)
28 Jul 10 UTC
Roffel's game 2: for beginners
See inside.
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Jester (911 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Orders constantly changing
Can anyone tell me why my orders keep changing after I've clicked ready. It happens all the time and the new orders are just gobbledegook!
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goldminer (100 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Really obvious question:
I know this will sound silly/ignorant, but, what is a gunboat?
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kreilly89 (100 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
Lack of mid-tier skill/pot games
I'm wondering if games with buy-ins of 300+ are very common as they seem almost non-existent at the moment.
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RStar43 (517 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
LIVE GAME
If there are enough players ill start one so speak up if your in
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HeavyRevy (181 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
New Ancient Med Game - Need Players!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=34736 Join up today!!!
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curtis (8870 D)
31 Jul 10 UTC
live gunboat wta
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Bob Genghiskhan (1228 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
Live Password protected game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=34785

PM me for the password, if you're not a CD prone player. Starts at 55 after the hour.
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
Live Gunboat 101bet WTA
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=34786
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jcbryan97 (134 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
Live Highstakes WTA Gunboat
it's anon, so state interest and you'll get password
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Sicarius (673 D)
26 Jul 10 UTC
Peak Oil
http://inteldaily.com/2010/04/oil-crash/

What now?
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Geofram (130 D(B))
29 Jul 10 UTC
I really shouldn't be doing this...
But I'm back and looking to kick some ass (again.) =D
Slow ones at first, definitely no time to play live.
Perhaps a friendly gunboat? Even better if some of the old boys are still around.
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taylornottyler (100 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
What kind of game constitutes an EOG statement?
Is there a common theme among these games?
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Philalethes (100 D(B))
30 Jul 10 UTC
CDs in stats page.
Heyho.

A small change to implement that would make me quite happy: stats displaying the number of times a player has CDed overall and, say, in the last three months displaying with the other stats on a users' page. Can't be that hard to implement, eh?
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hellalt (70 D)
29 Jul 10 UTC
Lets hug it out.
I'd like to apologize to anyone that I may have insulted or annoyed during my time on webDip. I really do love you all.
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JesusPetry (258 D)
30 Jul 10 UTC
White Rose Movement EOG statements
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The_Master_Warrior (10 D)
24 Jul 10 UTC
I Apologize
See Below
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