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Mcshade (149 D)
05 Feb 08 UTC
Kestas: First Great War Draw
Sparrowhawk and I are the last players on the board, and we both would like a draw. The link is http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2713

I, Turkey agree to this draw.
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mingle (347 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
I'm changing the subject
I get bored of seeing every other thread about multi-accounting, and then the acussed coming on and saying, they're not doing anything wrond Yadda yadda yadda.

So i thought i'd say this.

Kestas, this is a great game, thanks for programming it. I am enjoying in thouroughly, even though i sincerely suck. Can't wait for the updates!

That is all.

Yeah you can post here and say whatever, as long as it is not moaning about people witch-hunting you for being a damned cheater!
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Nick Douglas (408 D)
05 Feb 08 UTC
24 hours left to take over the CDs in Spring 1901
Game is "101 points" and URL is http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2908

Come join as Italy and Germany so I don't just rack up free SCs as Austria.
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Mcshade (149 D)
05 Feb 08 UTC
How do we draw?
I'm new to this site, and I'm not sure how to settle on a draw. In one of my games, I and another player want to call it a tie, but I'm not sure How to. What do I do?
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sean (3490 D(B))
03 Feb 08 UTC
draw request WW I honour rules
ok so in
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2671

WW I honour rules we are finishing on a draw. do all agree? please post here so kestas can draw the game, thanks
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MajorTom (4417 D)
05 Feb 08 UTC
How do i support a an army being convoyed into its destination?
Is it possible to do here?
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Darwyn (1601 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Alright, what am I missing here?
Your army at Piedmont moving into Tyrolia recieved move support from the army at Venice.

Your army at Piedmont sucessfully defeated the army and moved into Tyrolia.

Yet, somehow Tyrolia successfully attacked Munich!!

Your army at Munich was attacked by the army at Tyrolia, but sucessfully defended.

WTF! What am I missing here?

Tyrolia was able to cut the support Munich was giving to another one of my units. How is that? Tyrolia was overrun and was forced to retreat!
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
04 Feb 08 UTC
Kestas Draw Request. TWENTY TWO game...
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2589

This is actually a re-post. The first request, with the verification of the other two players, has dropped off the forum due to it's extensive age.
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thewonderllama (100 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
arg!
i hate it when you lose a perfectly defensible position because you make a mistake with your orders! the same orders you've been doing for multiple turns already! damnit!!!!

sorry, just had to vent.
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anlari (8640 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
Metagaming
Game ID: 2564
Players: Stephen V, Brisreb

Message from Stephen V as evidence:

France and I are in some games together, some not. In the games we were together we worked well together. We learned we could trust each other. If we're in a game together why would I not ally with someone I know I can trust? And we have definitely played games and not worked together in the past.

Does anyone disagree with me considering this metagaming, and what can be done about it if it is?
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flashman (2274 D(G))
03 Feb 08 UTC
Outing Multi-accounters...
I am not here to discuss the rights or wrongs - we are agreed on that already. What I want to know is, what is the best way to expose multi-accounters?

I have clashed with one in the past 12 hours. I found him in one of my games and challenged him to drop all accounts except one. He even confessed in part, admitting that two of the accounts in one game were his (in reality, at least 3). I also named another of his accounts, the one he uses for bigger games.

In short, he said he would stop. In practice, he went ahead and opened/joined new games using these accounts. At the last look, one had two of his accounts in it.

I know how he has lasted so long at this without being called. He has been tolerated as an amusement by friends, he uses multiple e-mail addresses, attacks himself with non-critical moves and even writes a few simple messages between the accounts.

He will probably come back in the same way even if banned.

Nevertheless, I believe he should be banned and his games made cd.

But, and here is the question, how?

Is it enough for a member such as myself to just claim that all this is true? Fortunately, one of my logs contains his partial confession, but it does not cover all his accounts.

I would appreciate advice.

In the meantime, those of you in games with the following, be warned,
to the best of my knowledge these are the same person -

ice point
wing09
roger941994
sleepy pig

Man fish (99%)

There are others.
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sean (3490 D(B))
04 Feb 08 UTC
moratorium new multiaccounting threads please
The posts have been overcome with multiple multiaccounting machinations and metagaming malarky! pretty annoying behavior its true but maybe it would appear to the casual bystander that our happy bunny rabbit smurf like community is succumbing to a horde of evil multiaccounting vandals. i don't believe this is the case...is it? let's all just chill out and papa smurf will bring these evildoers to their knees with a in a week or two with .8
beware the dark side.
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kickboxer (128 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
NEW Game... First world war... Honor
in this version there is an honor system. France russia and england against germany austria and turkey. Italy can choose its side however and can break alliances.:-)
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wing09 (112 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
wing09 = ice point
at first, i used wing09 to play diplomacy with yeunghauyip, then rait said we are metagamers, then yeunghauyip told me to change to another account. then why wing09 joined games was because someone told me told me not to give up my first account since it had quite some points. now i'm sorry & i'll give up any game that both wing09 and ice point are in together - gamergame (give up both countries). but if in the game i only have one account, then it is fair and i will not give up.

ALSO, VERY IMPORTANT :
roger941994 , man fish are two different person and NOT ME!!! they are my friend and cousin respectively.

at last, FLASHMAN, next time please talk when you have PROVE because in the 'LOGS' u said u have, I CLEARLY SAID THAT ROGER AND MAN FISH ARE NOT MINE!!!
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Sun_Tzu (2116 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
Team play
Two players CY-1963 & oak07 play many of their games together as a team. So those who are in games with them BEWARE!!
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ch0utim3 (129 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
Question
suppose Unit 1 was to move from piedmont to venice in order to bounce Enemy 1 in tyrolia from moving into venice. However Enemy 2 is located in tuscany and is moving into piedmont.

Do the Unit 1 and Enemy 1 bounce and then Unit 1 successfully defend against Enemy 2? or do Unit 1 and Enemy 1 bounce and Enemy 2 moves into piedmont while Unit 1 has to retreat?
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aaaa (127 D)
04 Feb 08 UTC
101 point game
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2908
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The Mahatma (1195 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Real Time Game - who's around?
Are there 6 people around who want to try a real time game today?

Mahatma
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Braveheart (2408 D(S))
22 Jan 08 UTC
Playing to Win & Meta-gaming
I often see threads published with respect to meta-gaming, people playing for points and the amount of countries slipping into CD (especially in lower pot games).

I found the following paragraph within an article by Roger Yonkoski (no idea who he is) under the heading 'The Grand Alliance'... which, for me at least, really hit the nail on the head with regard to the correct spirit in which the game should be played:

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy/articles/grand_alliance.htm

"I believe that it should be the objective of all players to prevent anyone else from winning, if they cannot win themselves. Most players may start with this objective, but by the time the game is near over, emotions have sometimes clouded that objective. Indeed, it is the task of each player to blow smoke into the other players' eyes and cloud their vision in just that way. With their vision thus clouded, players may be willing to let the game end for many reasons: revenge, loyalty, admiration, apathy.

I submit that all players have a duty to the game of Diplomacy. This duty is to always play to the best of their abilities through the end of the game, to try to prevent others from winning, and (at the risk of sounding corny) to play their position as if real citizens actually depended on their efforts. The hobby is better when everyone continues to play their position until the end, and in my opinion, plays to win or else prevent others from winning. It is a matter of honor to put the duty to the game over the pull of the emotions listed above."
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icanhazconquest (100 D)
03 Feb 08 UTC
New Game - La Linea Maginot
20 points. who's in?
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thewonderllama (100 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
GFDT Round 2
Now announcing the 2nd Round of the Grand Festive Diplomacy Tournament!

In the interest of not taking up too much space in the forum listing, the draw will be listed in the comments. I'll also be sending the contents of this to the people for whom I have email addresses. Signalseven, Charman Mao, TheMaster, and Rait: if you'd like to get tournament info via email, drop me a line at [email protected].
thewonderllama (100 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
As described in the GFDT Round 1 results thread, I generated the seeding by sorting on the following parameters:
* Players in games that resulted in a victory (not only the winner) come before players in a drawn game. Players in a drawn game come before alternates.
* (For players from games that ended in a victory) Number of SCs at game end.
* (For players from games that ended in a victory) Number of units at game end.
* (For all players) Points + 1/7 the pot of games player is in and hasn't been eliminated in (as of the afternoon of Friday January 18th GMT-6).

Points were only calculated where needed to break a tie. I would have used the original seeding instead of points, but unfortunately I don't have access to the original seeding.

Each player will be playing in 2 games. Based on your performance in your games, you will receive a score. The seven players with the highest combined scores will proceed to the finals. Ties will be resolved by number of draws; if there is still a tie, then by seed order. The scoring will work as follows:
* Solo victory in a game = 36 points
* Participation in a draw = 34/# of players involved in the draw
* Surviving a game = # of SCs you control at the end of the game

The scoring is set up such that winning a game will ensure you proceed to the finals, even if you are eliminated in your other game.

Okay, here goes:

Players:
(In the format: Seed Name (Units/SCs) (Points))
1. stoni90 (19/19)
2. LucusVonLucus (18/18)(1493.29 = 1395+(618+70)/7)
3. figlesquidge (18/18)(1441.29 = 1045+(1750+875+149)/7)
4. thewonderllama (17/18)
5. abab (12/12)
6. Signalseven (10/10)
7. Darwyn (9/9)
8. ravendevil (5/7)
9. Chairman Mao (6/6)(210 = 112+(651+35)/7)
10. TheMaster (6/6)(102)
11. Evilduck (5/5)(270)
12. cri_ned (5/5)(170.29 = 136+(240)/7)
13. mightyrobot (4/4)
(players in draws)
14. Rait (8/9)(c'mon, i don't really have to calculate this, do i?)
15. SlkySmoothOtter (9/9)(1376.43 = 1137+(969+707)/7)
16. Gobbledydook (10/10)(271.43 = 41+(426+332+217+210+176+147+105)/7)
17. wawlam59 (8/10)(192.43 = 58+(797+49+49+46)/7)
18. Sirither (9/9)(100)
19. Mythago (12/14)(10)
(alternates)
20. bc2000 (3/3)
21. Chrispminis (0/0)

Game #1:
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1. stoni90
6. Signalseven
7. Darwyn
12. cri_ned
13. mightyrobot
18. Sirither
19. Mythago

Game #2:
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2. LucusVonLucus
5. abab
8. ravendevil
11. Evilduck
14. Rait
17. wawlam59
20. bc2000

Game #3:
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3. figlesquidge
4. thewonderllama
9. Chairman Mao
10. TheMaster
15. SlkySmoothOtter
16. Gobbledydook
21. Chrispminis

Game #4:
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1. stoni90
5. abab
9. Chairman Mao
12. cri_ned
14. Rait
16. Gobbledydook
19. Mythago

Game #5:
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2. LucusVonLucus
4. thewonderllama
7. Darwyn
11. Evilduck
15. SlkySmoothOtter
18. Sirither
20. bc2000

Game #6:
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3. figlesquidge
6. Signalseven
8. ravendevil
10. TheMaster
13. mightyrobot
17. wawlam59
21. Chrispminis

The first person listed for each game should create the game with a bet of 5 and name of the format "GFDT R2 G1" and post the link and password here.

Good luck everyone!
figlesquidge (2131 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
Right, my games will be created tomorrow to allow everyone to read this and be watching. If you want me to start them before Llama mail me and I will
Rait (10151 D(S))
31 Jan 08 UTC
game 3 will be interesting considering the combination of players
Chrispminis (916 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
Yeah, Game 3 is pretty stacked. I'm lucky to have been seeded. Apparently Otto Von Bismarck has not responded at all, so I've taken his place.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
31 Jan 08 UTC
.......Please wait!!!
Another day
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
31 Jan 08 UTC
I need my new game to fall apart because of not enough players...
stoni90 (780 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
GFDT R2 G1 is open
pass:stoni
stoni90 (780 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
GFDT R2 G4 is open
pass:stoni
mightyrobot (202 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
Stoni, that password doesn't work for GFDT R2 G1. What is the correct password?
mightyrobot (202 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
OK, I finally got in. The password is "STONI" (all caps). Lowercase doesn't work.
LucusVonLucus (1551 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
I'll start game two at about Noon tomorrow (Eastern U.S.A. time -5 GMT) Which is just about 13.5 hours from now.
cri_ned (100 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
umm, how about the links to the games?
abab (1312 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
Stoni, can you post the link to GFDT R2 G4?
Thanks
thewonderllama (100 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
@LucusVonLucus: don't forget to start game 5 as well.

@cri_ned,abab: click on the creators name and you'll see it listed in his profile with the option to join.
Darwyn (1601 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
I'll need a linky to GFDT R2 G1. How do you get in without one?
abab (1312 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
thanks llama. Also for your organization effort. I really do wonder how a number of people active in this site can keep up with his/her work (for those who work) and the Diplomacy commitment!
Darwyn (1601 D)
31 Jan 08 UTC
ok...my powers of observation had failed me. I didn't read wonerllama's post above mine describing how to get in.

I'm in.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
31 Jan 08 UTC
we can start Game 3 and Game 4 now.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
3 & 6 are going up in the next few minutes. As noted, look for them on my profile, passwords will both be 'next'
LucusVonLucus (1551 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Games 2 and 5 created (a couple hours late due to internet issues at my job)
the passwords are R2G2 and R2G5 respectively.

Evilduck (322 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Lucus, could you post the links to games 2 and 5 please?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Look on his profile.
stoni90 (780 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
2 players missing from each game...
figlesquidge (2131 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
I've got 3 in each of mine, still, quite a long time to go, so hopefully they'll fill
thewonderllama (100 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
for those of you who want to keep up to date on the tournament, i've put a simple page with the seeding and links to the games at: http://www.llamanation.org/grandfestivediplomacytournament2007.
Chrispminis (916 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Excellent work thewonderllama. I'm sure everyone here appreciates your effort and initiative. Thanks.
Chrispminis (916 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Oh, and I'm in.
Darwyn (1601 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
There's only 50 minutes left for Mythago to join Game1 as the last player left. What happens if he does not?
Darwyn (1601 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Oh yes, and thanks wonderllama for setting this up.
Sirither (100 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Well, I guess he takes Italy. Should we not submit orders while we wait for him?
thewonderllama (100 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
if you guys could issue hold orders until he joins and start on a spring turn, that'd probably be best. that or we ask kestas to pause the game until he joins.
stoni90 (780 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Game 1 and 4 have civil disordered countries...what to do? proceed?
ravendevil (504 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
um... I think I shall be in Game 6, but why is the game full? :(
figlesquidge (2131 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Silky seems to have taken your place
If you join game 3 instead (where he should have gone) I doubt anyone will mind - the mistake is his not yours
Darwyn (1601 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Well, I for one, am excited to get this underway. Good luck to everyone...I know I'll need it having drawn Austria.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Do we wait until our game fills? Possibly we just wait for the whole of 1901, so that it is fair? on the other hand, it's a game, so maybe we should start and it's their problem?
Darchelian (131 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
With those civil disorders, do you need alternates still? If so I'd like to apply
thewonderllama (100 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
ravendevil, go ahead and join game 3 like figlesquidge suggested. it's not going to be a huge deal. mythago, however, appears to have dropped off the planet. i'd like to say hold the games that are missing him and if he doesn't join by the end of spring 01, i'll replace him...are the people affected okay with that? the other option is, as said above, just start. how do the rest of you feel about this?
thewonderllama (100 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
another option is we can ask kestas to increase the next turn deadline on the affected games and i can start fishing for an alternate now.
Darwyn (1601 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
I vote for fishing for an alternate now. If there's no one on the waiting list, Darchelian is fine with me.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Im all for moving ahead, as I believe game 3 has other players who've made moves already. Unless you can get Kestas to delay phase 1 by a day...
Ironclad (0 DX)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Just so you know, I have joined games 1 and 4 at Llama's request (5 hours before the end of Spring 1901). Good luck to all involved!
thewonderllama (100 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
for the record, Ironclad is replacing Mythago in the tournament. Mythago, if you see this, sorry, we couldn't really hold out any longer.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
What are we supposed to be doing in game 3 llama? I suggest we open up the places to the next two players who arrive, since the game will run without them otherwise!
thewonderllama (100 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
figlesquidge: the two players we are missing are both involved in another game in the tournament. in the interests of fairness (or as best as i can approximate), i'd like to leave those spots for them. since they're both already involved in games, i'm going to say let's go ahead and play as normal and they will hopefully join in time for the first move.
Mythago (157 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Bum.
Sirither (100 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Would it be possible for kestas to make these games (and games from round 1) viewable to all players?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Fair enough. One has filled, just leaving Italy for the last player.
And yes, it would be possible for Kestas to make them all visible, but if someone went CD they could be taken over without a password
abab (1312 D)
03 Feb 08 UTC
Actually, the llama did a great job, by creating a web page referring to R2 tournament games:
http://www.llamanation.org/grandfestivediplomacytournament2007
(I am astonished how he found the time: llama, do you manage to get rested with four hour sleep per night, or are you a very rich guy who does not need to work?!?! Apart from jokes, thanks a lot for your organization)


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positron (1160 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Ye of little faith
When the gamemaster surprises me, I should know that I've been stabbed in the back. I can't be sure, because of problems with the adjudicator.

There should be a list of adjudicator problems. If not on this site, then on http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpdiplomacy

Of course there is a third possibility. It's not a bug, it's not being stabbed, it's user incompetence.
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gameover (619 D)
03 Feb 08 UTC
New Game
Last Resort-
101 pts to join
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positron (1160 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Watson, it's elementary!
Explore another of the elements of diplomacy, Technetium (43).

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2896
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tigreton (0 DX)
02 Feb 08 UTC
For spanish people
I'm tired to talk in english... xD.
So if there is anybody who talk spanish, come here.
And if not, u can come too.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2898
Cheap play, 5.
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Shisuren (587 D)
01 Feb 08 UTC
Kestas - WWI Honor Rules - Allies surrendered
*crosses fingers that this sends properly*

England, France, and Russia have surrendered in our WWI Honor Rules match (gid=2671). I'm not exactly sure what was decided in the other WWI game, but if it was drawn between the victors (in this case, Germany, Austria, and Turkey), could you do the same thing here?

The other players should be posting shortly. Thanks.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
02 Feb 08 UTC
Everyone join this game now.
Bet = 20.
Join up ASAP 6 hours to go.
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=2890
pw = breuer
This game is open to all.
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neros84 (149 D)
30 Jan 08 UTC
How can I support an attack via convoy?
I'd like to give support to an attack via convoy. The problem is that the drop-down boxes only seem to give the option to support an attack by the fleet from that territory, not to support a convoy attack via that fleet. This is legal in standard Diplo, right?
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fhrathore (82 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
Cancel game
I am currently playing battle of europe I and there are currently only three active members playing. is there a way for the admin to cancel this game w/out a penalty?
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Darchelian (131 D)
02 Feb 08 UTC
I'm not trying to enforce maturity, but...
Is there any way we can remove any conversations whose headlines are derogatory? I don't really care what people put in threads because I can easily choose not to reopen a thread. However it is a little more difficult to explain to my boss why my screen shows the phrase that makes up the title of fwancophile's last thread.
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