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Magnus Chase (94 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
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Help! I'm new!
Hi everyone, I just joined this site a couple days ago. I understand relatively how to play Diplomacy, but I've only played in real life before. Typically, I've never been able to round up many friends to play the game because it takes so long, but I've played some games. Can anyone direct me to any resources so I can learn to play better? Sorry if there was a post like this, but I couldn't find it.
Magnus Chase (94 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
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I already checked FAQ so don't hate on me.
President Eden (2750 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
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http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm

You'll find a fair amount of this is dated, but it's a better starting point than nothing.

http://diplom.org/Zine/F1999R/Windsor/dipmap.html

This is the best single article ever written on Diplomacy strategy.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Nov 16 UTC
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https://www.youtube.com/user/Triumvir412
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/home.htm
http://diplom.org/Online/reference.html
http://tinyurl.com/webDipEOG
Lord Admiral (767 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
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Also, for pure game mechanics, perusing the actual Avalon Hill rule book (link in FAQ) can be useful.
Magnus Chase (94 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Thank you both! :D
Magnus Chase (94 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Can I also ask how the rankings work? Does it depend on amount of wins or points received, etc?
genghiz (14392 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Welcome to the site, Magnus. Enjoy!
Magnus Chase (94 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Thank you Genghiz! I'll do my best.
Ogion (3882 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
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Triumvir was a big part of learning for me too. What Valis said
JamesYanik (548 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
@Magnus Chase

if you get wins or part of a small draw, you get points, you get a higher rank. you get POWER.

if you die, you'll always be able to keep a minimum of 100 points (although some of them can be in play, without being replaced)
The ranking system within the site is just a measurement of your points, as James noted. I couldn't tell you the exact rankings and their thresholds, but the site tracks how many total points each user has, and your position within that list (from highest to lowest) determines the rank in your profile. It doesn't really mean anything, although I guess it's got to be a bit better to see "Diplomat" (top 1%) or "Mastermind" (top 10%) instead of "Political puppet" (the default) on your profile.

There's a second rating system that's quasi-integrated into the site, called the Ghost Rankings (named after TheGhostmaker, a great former user). This one gives you a ranking based upon your in-game performance rather than your points -- you 'wager' a portion of this ranking by default in each game you play (at the same fixed rate for each user), and your performance in the game (win, 2-way draw, whatever) determines how much of that ranking you get back. So basically, successful performances help, bad performances hurt, playing against good players (according to the ranking) helps, playing bad ones hurts. This ranking used to be used for invitational games and ego contests alike -- truly the greatest rewards of a Diplomacy career. (Bear in mind that the Ghost Rankings don't track you if you don't play; you get dropped off after a certain amount of inactivity. If you want to see yourself climb on this, keep playing!)

I would recommend ignoring the on-site ranking for certain. Invest your points and play games, you'll have fun and get better as you go. You'll eventually grow your points stockpile and be able to afford higher-pot games against more talented players. If you really care about where you stack up, use the Ghost Ratings to monitor it.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 16 UTC
@"So basically, successful performances help, bad performances hurt, playing against good players (according to the ranking) helps, playing bad ones hurts. "

I know you said basically, but i think this is basically wrong.

If you play good player and lose, you will not lose as much ranking, if you play against bad players and win, you will not win as much ranking. So the ghost rating assumes you are some median amount of good, and rewards you for beating better players, beating weaker players still rewards you, but not as much cause it already thought you were better than them.

And vica-versa for losing to better/worse players...
^good clarification, thanks ora. Refer to that OP
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Greetings Magnus, Welcome to WebDiplomacy. Here's an alternative way to find out how to play here, see the player names of two contributors to this discussion, Valis2501 and President Eden ....well both are extremely good players, so click on their player name, which takes you to their player profile page, scroll down into their previous games.... Pick a game they've won ...open it ...on the bottom left hand corner there will be Archive with Maps etc .. Click on maps and you will get maps for each move of the game.. So you can then scroll down to the map for the first move, and then work back through the game, so you can trawl through the games of the elite players and poach from their array of cunning plays and ploys, The past games of Valis should have a goldmine of useful stuff.

Good luck
Red-Lion (382 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
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The pros on the site will probably laugh at me, but HistoryGamerDotCom has a channel devoted to Diplomacy openings on his YouTube channel that I found incredibly helpful in getting out of the opening stages alive.
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
@ Magnus there are orders, maps and messages in that Archive thingy, so depending on how the game was set up, full press, ( all messaging options in the game ) limited press or no press there will be Archive records..so assume full press game, you can look into the message archives so I'm sure if you did that in the previous games of President Eden of Valis there's a goldmine of good stuff there
MajorMitchell (1874 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Don't look at Orathaic's homepage his first past games that are on display are shocking, possibly some grotesque satirical comedy, I'm not sure. Thankfully none appear to involve me amongst their famous and infamous cast
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
04 Nov 16 UTC
If I may also suggest getting familiar with all the openings including vague ones. It helps to have a solid arsenal in 1901 for any nation. Also you don't want to appear uneducated when a good player offers a key lepanto
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
04 Nov 16 UTC
Run away! Your all doomed!! Gaaaaaa!!!
Red-Lion (382 D)
04 Nov 16 UTC
You're*
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 16 UTC
Looking at my first game on this site, i didn't take over til 1908, and maple leaf was in it. And there were at least three players replaced... Ueah probably not the greatest example.


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ssorenn (0 DX)
29 Oct 16 UTC
Going to the game
On my way to Wrigley.

Go Cubs!!!
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
03 Nov 16 UTC
Game 7
Go Indians!
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Red-Lion (382 D)
03 Nov 16 UTC
Hey this looks like a nice game
What's going on in thi- gameID=185002 <looks at game for first time at Autumn 1903> - oh lawd!
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MoscowFleet (129 D)
02 Oct 16 UTC
MLB Playoffs
Well fellas, we're down to the last day. The Mariners' drought continues, the Cards continue to somehow stay in it, the Jays thank the Lord finally get a win to push them to the #1 spot. The Nats also clinched home field advantage over the Dodgers.

Any WS predictions? Is it really the Cubs' year? Can the Dodgers finally make it? Who's going to surprise? My money is on the Jays duelling it out with the Giants, but of course I have a strong bias. What do you all think?
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brainbomb (290 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
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If the election were today...
http://www.270towin.com/maps/3nY92
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
27 Oct 16 UTC
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Live Game Tournament - Results and Feedback
The inaugural webDiplomacy Live Game Tournament has finished! See inside for more.
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
02 Nov 16 UTC
Nihilist webDiplomacy
No matter if you 2-way, 3-way, or however you draw, you're going to die solo.

Play wedDip.
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krellin (80 DX)
01 Nov 16 UTC
nanowrimo
National Novel Writing Month
http://nanowrimo.org/

Who's in? What's your topic, passion or ploy?
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Red-Lion (382 D)
29 Oct 16 UTC
Camptown Girls
gameID=184750

I teared up a little when I realized that Italy was going to give his partner, Austria, a piece of the pie instead of soloing. There are happy endings in Diplomacy after all!
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Durga (3609 D)
19 Oct 16 UTC
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Let's fight
Hi friends, I'm looking to play a FP DSS semi-anon game with 2 day phases. Anyone down??

ps: pls don't sign up if you don't send press I can't stand that shit
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Deinodon (379 D(B))
20 Sep 16 UTC
webDiplomacy continues to lose players
The number of players listed each month in the Ghostratings continues to decline. Every year, there is a peak around May/June. We peaked in 2011 with 3,571 players, and steadily lost players from then to now (if you don't count the 2013-2014 inflated numbers anomaly). This last May peak we hit 2,503. At this rate, I figure there will be seven of us left in 2029.
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Frostweaver (80 DX)
25 Oct 16 UTC
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Frostweaver's Personal Comments on Live Gunboat-483
Just a note: I'm not playing in the game, just spectating and inputting my personal comments on the game's moves.

Classic opening moves were made by all countries - except for Turkey. Seems Turkey is susceptible to Russian retaliation from the Black Sea. Also quite interesting how Britain and France strayed away from the English Channel.
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reedeer1 (100 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
College Essays
My early decision applications are due tomorrow! Help!
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
29 Oct 16 UTC
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IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO GUNBOAT. DONT
Just don't. PSA over.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
28 Oct 16 UTC
Oregon Standoff Defendants Acquitted
Once in awhile, the system works.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/27/us/oregon-standoff-ammon-bundy-acquittal/index.html
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guak (3381 D)
29 Oct 16 UTC
Deep Learning
So, how long until we get a machine that can kick our asses at Diplomacy? Will AI be forced to play only gunboat games, or can it do full press too? Discuss
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
13 Oct 16 UTC
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Petition to Introduce Chaos
The variant on the classic map where every center is a different player.

Sign this thread if you think it should be brought to webDip!
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Looking for a couple more to join a game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=184890
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
29 Oct 16 UTC
Needs two more! gameID=184565
See title! Join up.
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Jon65 (112 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
making sure I'm avoiding meta gaming
I'm wanting tk play with friends from IRL on here as well as existing people on here
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
28 Oct 16 UTC
New player, friend of mine, looking for game
hey everyone, because I'm sexy I got a coworker of mine to make an account and play with me. Has nothing to do with the fact that he reports to me. He is userID=82252


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ND (879 D)
27 Oct 16 UTC
U.S. Hysteria
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-putin-idUSKCN12R1W6

Thoughts?
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Ikaneko (97 D)
31 Oct 16 UTC
Facebook Diplomacy
I've discovered a bot that allows you to play chess on a Facebook Chat page using algebraic notation. Could someone conceivably create a Diplomacy adjudicator for a Facebook chat page? It might make Diplomacy more accessible as you can easily play with your friends without worrying for phase length, pauses etc. Would this be in any way possible? It's just a thought.
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TrPrado (461 D)
30 Oct 16 UTC
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I Predict
As the years go on, as millennials come to player a more important role in the world as politicians...
The waistcoat will once again be fashionable for politicians to wear.
Thoughts?
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IcyDragon (0 DX)
31 Oct 16 UTC
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Frostweaver is banned.
Thanks for multi-accounting or meta-gaming man.
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hope (419 D)
30 Oct 16 UTC
Trumps Wicked Kids
At first I thought Trump was alright, but after I looked at this I just cant vote for him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4Mi4ocyDw
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leon1122 (190 D)
30 Oct 16 UTC
Violent [censored political group name] and corrupt LAPD
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/los-angeles-homeless-woman-posts-video-protecting-trump-walk-of-fame-star/
Violent ________ attack an African American woman supporting Trump and calling for deportation of illegal immigrants. LAPD blames victim, saying she "incited" them.
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CarlVonClausewitz (0 DX)
28 Oct 16 UTC
Rule Clarification - Absent Players
Could somebody please clarify the rules relating to a player leaving a game. How do attacked units retreat, or are they simply disbanded? When is a new player invited to take over and at what point in the turn (e.g. is it always after the build phase)?
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brainbomb (290 D)
26 Oct 16 UTC
Flagrant examples of election fraud
https://www.buzzfeed.com/qsahmed/the-10-most-gerrymandered-districts-in-america-dh45?utm_term=.yb2ozLooj#.spgn4PnnL
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