Update incoming Vashta.

Soon.

update posted.

"It is possible for the tracker to visit a player to find out that multiple parties visited them and multiple actions occurred to them." Does this mean that the tracker gets information if they track either a visitor or someone that was visited?

Also, why would masons as a group ever cast more than a single vote? Isn't it better for them to risk just one mason dying (if they try to convert a Mafia PR)?

@Xorxes: That is strategy that they (masons, etc) will have to decide upon.

TrPrado and I have done our best to list possible tracker outcomes based on who they track. In some cases they will spot more than one person visiting a player.

When you become a cult member, do you find out who converted you, and who else has been converted?

@Xorxes: You will get a PM at the start of day with the cult QT, but you can't post in it until the next night phase.

you join the next night into qt.

oh yeah. Just to make sure, all the QTs can only be used at night, right?

I'm still not understanding the tracker. It says that "Each night, you may choose to visit on person. You will see whoever this person visited that night." but also: "It is possible for the tracker to visit a player to find out that multiple parties visited them and multiple actions occurred to them." Does the tracker sees only whoever the person they choose visits, or do they also see if someone else visited the person they choose?

Cult Leader: "During the night you may communicate with (Player name here), the other Leader, in the cult qt: link. You may only speak with your cult leader partner at night. Additionally, each night you may vote on who to recruit. If you are successful in your recruitment, then the player will be added to the cult qt for the subsequent night phase. You win once 51% of surviving players have become part of the cult."

That's correct Vashta.

@Xorxes: It depends on the player being tracked. In some cases the Tracker will only see one person visiting another player and in others the player will track someone who is accompanied by a group and the player they visited. You won't get their role information, but you will see the person or person(s) who visited another player. And in some cases tracker will get a message stating you target visited no one.

If ND is visited by a cult leader, and tracker tracks ND, is he told that ND was visited by X?

Yes, but if Cult Leader has recruited other Cult Members it will show that ND was visited by X, Y, Z (etc, depending on how many cult members accompanied Cult Leader). This is based on members that specific leader recruited during previous night phases.

can you imagine how sad someone would be if they get shot by vig on page 1?? My god you wait a month to play and could get vigged by a hipfire right away.

Maybe its just an ettiquete thing to wait.

OK, thanks! I understood about the group visits, my doubt was about whether the tracker would track only the visitors or also the visited. The role description seems to imply it's only the visitors, but some place else it suggests it's also the visited that can be tracked.

Imagine being the Tracker and finding out your target was visited by 4 people for some converting..

When someone dies, do we find out their current role only, or their original role as well?

current role.

Current role? That's interesting; it keeps a lot of guesswork around when a Masoned VT or Cultist passes away.

I would like to state, right now, that I will only be able to play in Mafia XVII if Brainbomb is not participating.

How petty.

Just being honest. His chuntering is driving me beyond nuts.

Well, keep it to yourself and if you see him in the game just opt out or choose not to play. No need to publicly announce it.

You have no need to state that publicly, jamie, it is perfectly reasobabld to keep it to yourself if that's your reason. No one needs to know your reasons for not playing -- and it may look egotistical to think that your involvement in games should have publicly-declared conditions.

And really you should not even be mentioning this with a current ongoing game of Mafia in play.

As an intelligent person, and as forum veteran, you really should know better.

*as a forum veteran

"as forum veteran" sounded far too much like a unique honorary position ;)

These threads are supposed to go inactive once the games start.

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