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peterwiggin (15158 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
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April GR
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_ahyflpb7zCMnY1OEZXdzZPV3JmU3AxRC1PUnIzOURaOW5n/view?usp=sharing
peterwiggin (15158 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
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Thanks to ATC for running the code. You're welcome to all the people taking my points in gunboat.
JamesYanik (548 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
I think I shoulda done better. A few CDs from the ban and I'd be higher. Next month I'll be top 10, coming for you high rollers
Octavious (2701 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
I vaguely recall there used to be some chap that was often near the top. Max, I think his name was... No, that sounds wrong... MrsMax perhaps? Yeah... The initials MM ring a bell. MrsMax must have been it...
TrPrado (461 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
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Yeah, I've had some really rough games lately...
KingCyrus (511 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Me too :( I feel like I shouldn't be as low as I am on that.
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
The first time in WebDip history that the top GR player has had the honor of posting monthly GR.
Fairfax (1915 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
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I haven't been following this for a while. What happened to gunboat only GR?
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
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Fairfax, my understanding is that the people who used to both have the knowledge and spend the time to run it consistently have since left the project or the site. We have enough knowledge and time (#praiseATC) to still run overall ratings roughly on time. The important thing to know is that there is active work on incorporating GR into the sites code, so it can be automatic and native, somewhat like RR for example. that's my understanding of the current state of affairs
This close to top 50.
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Back in Top 10, life makes sense again!
TrPrado (461 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Top 400. Woo...
KingCyrus (511 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Top 250
ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Blegh.

I'll be formatting it nicely and updating the tournaments site momentarily.

Blegh.
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
I take it people get dropped from the list if they don't have a finished game in the last three months?
ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist
peterwiggin (15158 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Ooh the pretty version!
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Up to 11th, highest I've been in 3 years. Nice.
After that asswhoopin I got in my GB series, I expected worse...

Congrats HR, nicely done.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Do limited press and variant map games count in Ghost-Rating?

Both these types of variants count, however they are weighted down to take into account that they are often less well balanced etc.
ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Actually, the ten-player variants may still be uncounted.
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
@ghug Yes, that's true. I mostly posted that in response to gunboats having a lower effect than expected.
mendax (321 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
That would explain why my 5 gunboat games gained me a grand total of 2 places, and 0.8 of a GR point.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
More evidence you need to play FP again, Mendax :).
Chumbles (791 D(S))
16 Apr 15 UTC
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I'm past my peak already; if only the Blind Dip game had been rated *sob* -,_-,
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
"Fairfax, my understanding is that the people who used to both have the knowledge and spend the time to run it consistently have since left the project or the site."

Boo!

I know near enough how the gunboat list was done, but never liked/approved of it, because it was a terrible representation of skill in gunboat (not enough data).
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
@GR Obviously I know you're still around, I participated heavily in your last thread. It was a bit of a stretch but it's the best answer I could give.

Sorry bae <3
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Ghug - If you or ATC know the discount factors for public press, GB, PPSC and the variants I can work on replicating GR by category. I've got Classic, non-Live, FP, WTA category coded and working basically (I want to do a little more testing but it's mapping pretty closely to what the old lists by category have for that one). For all the others I need to know what value replaces the 1/17.5 factor in the formulas.
jbalcorn (429 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Trying to open the April '15 link from the Ghost-Ratings site results in "No permissions". I can open the previous file.
ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
@Yale, Variants file.csv in the folder I sent you before has the factors for everything but the two new variants.

You can add the following rows to include America and Modern (the 3 is arbitrary, but it makes the most sense in the context of the others if we're sticking to integers):
20,American,58,34,10,3,1
19,Modern,64,33,10,3,1

@jbalcorn, I'm not having that issue even when I'm logged out of everything. Can anyone else confirm?
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
@ghug link works fine for me.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Link works fine for me too. As for the info in the variants file, what does 3 mean in terms of the V factor? The factor for Classic is 17.5 (or really 1/17.5). Gunboat is listed with a 4 in the variants file, does that mean we use 1/(4*17.5) for gunboat? And World also has a 4 in the file, so would a World Gunboat be worth 1/16th as much as a full press Classic in terms of V factor?
ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
I believe that's how it works, yeah. Standard GR does it the same way, so you can confirm with that script or I can do it when I get home or maybe TGM can confirm it now.
Yaleunc (11052 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Okay. Four seems high for GB to me, especially since Public Press is only 2, but I'll see if I can get it to replicate the old scores using those factors. Basically this is saying a solo in a GB Classic against 6 opponents only boosts your rating 1/4 as much as a solo against those same 6 opponents in FP. Ten points instead of forty if all 7 players are equally matched for example.
ghug (5068 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Yeah, there are problems with GR, which is why we're looking to overhaul it entirely when we integrate a rating system. In the meantime, changing the scaling after it's been done this way for four years without making any other changes is probably not the best thing to do.

I think gunboat as a standalone category just used 17.5, but I'm not sure about that.
Hazel-Rah (1262 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
3 games played in March (all gunboat), 3 solo victories. GR went up less than 20 D. So the competition may not have been the greatest, but damn... I had visions of rocketing up into the top 50!
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Apr 15 UTC
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two of those three wins were PPSC, and GR, like webdip points and God's forgiveness, are significantly reduced in PPSC.
Hazel-Rah (1262 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Yes, PPSC gunboats are an abomination. Still, a win is a win. I knew my GR wasn't going to go up to 350 or anything, but I was surprised how little the reward actually turned out to be.
Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
18 Apr 15 UTC
So.... April GR games? Or is that a new thread?
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
18 Apr 15 UTC
2015 Mar GR Challenge is still ongoing for all 3 boards.
Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
18 Apr 15 UTC
That's alright, mama!
Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
18 Apr 15 UTC
If people show interest, don't let that fact stop you. But it might explain why there's not a huge clamor. Especially with Leagues and ODC ongoing. The 2015 MAR GRC was the first one since the 2014 OCT GRC, and there was still a board or two not done from the latter! My point is that it's not traditionally done every month.
Hamilton Brian (811 D(B))
18 Apr 15 UTC
Gotcha! I'll stop with the Bob Dylan lyric-riffing, too. I just think this is my first year on the site where I've been into Leagues, and GR games, etc, so it is damn fun. Perhaps tomorrow I'll look at interest in an April GR set.
Rommeltastic (1111 D(B))
18 Apr 15 UTC
I just don't move. Ever. 150ish forever, baby.


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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Apr 15 UTC
My opinion on organized religion
Feel free to debate and such.... just curious to see the conversations this propagates.
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ben spiritual (0 DX)
17 Apr 15 UTC
how to become a member of great illuminati life
join illuminati secret cult and get all you heart desire in life.(money,power and peace)email:[email protected]
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ben spiritual (0 DX)
17 Apr 15 UTC
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if you wish to become a member of illuminati life.email us on [email protected]
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yassem (2533 D)
17 Apr 15 UTC
Liberland
How come we haven't yet talked about Liberland? Thoughts?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
17 Apr 15 UTC
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Congratulations Rommeltastic!
Truly a god among men.
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TruthTeller (0 DX)
17 Apr 15 UTC
I was banned on another account.
Hey all,

I know you probably don't give a crap. I don't expect you to really. I just want to vent about how inadequate the mods are. Me and a group of four friends live in the same house. We played the actual board a lot and we loved the game. We found out a number of us were going to be moving very soon, but we still wanted a way to do fun things together. We found this site.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Apr 15 UTC
The TMP Challenge
gameID=158856

I challenge TMP to a 7 way duel. Any others should join for this unique experience to get tickled whilst playing.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
17 Apr 15 UTC
Urgent news from Devil-elopers
See Inside: The webDip Dev-e team has taken great pleasure in anouncing a possibly new feature for the site. Soon players may be able to list their relationship status and commit to in-game marriage. We here at webDipDev-e take great pride in our work and are excited to see how the community enjoys the new developments. - questions should be directed to myself, the webDip Dev-e chairman Mao, in my PM.
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Jancarius (109 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
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Draw Votes
How many players must agree to a draw before it happens?
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krellin (80 DX)
16 Apr 15 UTC
Y-F'ing-Y!!!
Yellow!!! Haven't seen you in like for-fucking-eve!!! How's it going dude?
Hell...last time I saw you around was probably...huh....when I survived the Great WebDip Purge!!!
How the hell are you, my friend?!?!!?
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OB_Gyn_Kenobi (888 D)
15 Apr 15 UTC
Another Dip variant idea
I call it "Chain of Command". I'm interested in getting opinions/feedback. GB lovers probably won't like this one.
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orathaic (1009 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
Do Human 'races' exist?
www.sciencealert.com/watch-do-human-races-really-exist
Discuss.
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
15 Apr 15 UTC
Blind Diplomacy Gunboat EOG
After 16 in-game years (4 months real time) the Blind Diplomacy Gunboat game has ended, with Austria (Chumbles) achieving a 19SC victory!

Maps can be found here: http://imgur.com/a/fG0MI
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
This is staggeringly relevant
as above, below.
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quarryman (5466 D)
16 Apr 15 UTC
NY City to NY State... is not a bug?
3 or 4 times I have seen moving a fleet from NYCity to NYState or viceversa. Is that a bug, isnt it?
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
16 Apr 15 UTC
AERA-Chicago
Anybody here going to AERA-Chicago this weekend? Would be great to meet some folks from webdip at AERA. We will be discreet. :)
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
16 Apr 15 UTC
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Who to censor?
As above, below.
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Randomizer (722 D)
13 Apr 15 UTC
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World Hypocrisy about Arab Deaths
The world isn't condemning the Saudi Arabia led attacks into Yemen at the same level as when Israel defended itself against Hamas. Going after the enemy, they have hit hospitals, schools, a refugee camp and neighborhoods, according to U.N. officials. This is without being threaten, but just to prevent Iran from going in power.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-widens-role-in-saudi-led-campaign-against-yemen-rebels-1428882967
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TrPrado (461 D)
15 Apr 15 UTC
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It's Official
I have been on webDip for a full year as of today. Which also happens to be the 150th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln's death.
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SplitDiplomat (101466 D)
26 Mar 15 UTC
New high pot top gunboaters' game(s)
Is there an interest among top 20 (or so) gunboat players to start another top game (or set of games) with usual top gb games settings?
Games starting as we get the crew,higher ranking gets in...
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yassem (2533 D)
15 Apr 15 UTC
Wrinkle your brain a little bit...
By now it probably gone quite viral, but maybe not all of you have seen it yet, and it's a good one:
http://www.sciencealert.com/images/articles/MathsProblem_1024.jpg
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JimTheGrey (968 D(S))
07 Apr 15 UTC
Chicago-Area Tournaments Coming Up
The ninth annual CODCon Open Diplomacy tournament (http://windycityweasels.org/codcon9) is this weekend at the College of DuPage in west suburban Glen Ellyn. Weasel Moot IX (http://windycityweasels.org/wm9) will be June 13-14 at the University of Illinois-Chicago. Hope to see you there!
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Maniac (189 D(B))
14 Apr 15 UTC
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Announcement
I'm standing as The Green Party candidate in the local elections on 7th May in the UK. I know this will concern some of you, but rest assured, I have zero chance of winning and being put in charge of anything.
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Tarsil (7 DX)
15 Apr 15 UTC
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Petra to Nabatea
Does anyone know why you can't move afleet from Petra to Nabatea on the ancients map when they share a coast line and adjacnecy ??
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2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
14 Apr 15 UTC
Four Greatest
Pick the four greatest baseball players ever on your favorite team and the four greatest living baseball players.
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rmf (100 D)
10 Mar 15 UTC
Ancient Mediterranean Gunboat Series
I like gunboat, and I usually enjoy AncMed. Let's try this: 5 people, 5 games, gunboat, WTA, 25h/phase, 8 D. Sign up below.
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yassem (2533 D)
15 Apr 15 UTC
USA is becoming the new reality show...
I don't know how media in other countries or portraying the conflict between Afro-Americans and the police, but in Poland it's exactly that - a huge reality show.
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Vikesrussel (839 D)
15 Apr 15 UTC
Please look
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=158273&msgCountryID=5
In this game. Does anyone think something is majorly wrong with the movements?
E and F have no enemies . G and I going East while F and E going east...
R is not a good player. Anyone else think this game is very fishy?
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ssorenn (0 DX)
10 Apr 15 UTC
Where some of our favorite forum members?
Nigeebaby and Putin33, can't say I cared for either of them, but they were certainly entertaining.

Where did they go?
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