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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
27 Dec 14 UTC
Let's Talk about GMOs
So, yeah. If you are unfamiliar with the term, GMOs are genetically modified organisms, which usually refers to crops that have been modified for various reasons. Anyway, there are many groups of people who want to ban the use (or at least have labeling) of GMOs. How do you feel?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_food_controversies
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism
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ssorenn (0 DX)
28 Dec 14 UTC
Looking to start a high quality game in beginning of year. Who's in?
WTA,FP,24-36 hours 25-60 D.
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stranskizzle (324 D)
29 Dec 14 UTC
live game anon wta
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=152731
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Marz (515 D)
29 Dec 14 UTC
Let's get a game
Anybody up for a high level classic game with a 36 hour phase length, and a 200 point buy in?
PM if you want to join, but only if you're prepared to send a lot of press (Read: Lies)
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JamesYanik (548 D)
28 Dec 14 UTC
6 hour phase game
gameID=152703
starts in 50 minutes and we only need 2 more, it will be fast but that is all part of the fun
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
26 Dec 14 UTC
Who can tell me how to write "Fight and Forgive" in Latin?
It'd be in the sense of a rule or motto.
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trip (696 D(B))
19 Dec 14 UTC
Lusthog Variant
A Gunboat with the additional rule of not voting to draw until someone wins, or the game stalemated. Once a stalemate line is formed and held, the game ends. Sign up inside...
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Philosophical Question - Security
Under what circumstances is it permissible to decline to offer protection to a woman?
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Strauss (758 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Turn the other Cheek?
It's a question of the interpretation.
The cheeks of my face?
Strauss (758 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
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Jesus reformed the old testament on the Sermon on the Mount and explained
the differences: Eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is called revenge, and God looks after the results. In case of the consideration at that time in human relations where murder and manslaughter was nothing unusual, where people for triviality smashed to itself the skull and this fact by the old rule in the AT was goaded, was it an exceedingly advanced Sermon of Jesus.

The people had to give themselves a new rule to educate themselves to a more civilized behaviour. If you are provoked, so leaves you don't provoke. Who can be provoked by insults, generates negative feelings up to the fury, to the hatred and at last to the uncontrolled power. As well as the "Mohammed Film" of 2012 pointed in which religious rage worldwide many people died. The troublemaker has got force about own feelings, and this is often intended - particularly from religious leaders.

Not to let provoke should not be called, not defend itself to be allowed or to have to renounce the self-defense right, but it should serve the internal constitution. Do so furthermore this what is measured in the respective situation, criticize possibly impertinent behaviour or repulse physical attacks effectively, also by adequate power, but never react on aggression with aggression, hatred or disdain. Then the opponent has won force about you.

How much often quotes, is the best samurai who leaves his sword in the scabbard.
fuzzyhartle1 (100 D)
23 Dec 14 UTC
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Pretty much: Violence wont solve your problem, it only brings forth more violence and hatred.
ssorenn (0 DX)
23 Dec 14 UTC
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Smoke weed and chill baby.
LittleSoldierBoy (236 D)
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Fun fact: I remember hearing that turning the other cheek was a passive act of defiance. Masters would often hit their servants across the cheek with the back of their right hand, backhanded being a way of showing dominance and right-handed because the left hand was considered 'dirty'. So by turning the other cheek, the master was left with 2 equally undesirable options; hit them open handed (indicating equality) on the other cheek, or refuse and give up authority
VillageIdiot (7813 D)
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Damn you for sneaking knowledge into my head against my will!!!
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
24 Dec 14 UTC
Everyone considered him the coward of the county.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
24 Dec 14 UTC
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@littlesoldierboy:
That's not what Christ was getting at. He was not a person of violence or defiance unless that defiance was to go against man's laws in favor of God's Law.

If you look at the passage as a whole, we see 4 examples:

a) if a person forces you to go 1 mile, go 2.
b) if a man sues you for your shirt, give him your coat
c ) if a man slaps your right cheek, turn to him your left
d) give to him who asks and do not turn away from someone who wishes to borrow

Christ's ultimate motive was to simply leave retaliation to God. Jews should have understood this:

Leviticus 19:17-18. "You shall not hate your fellow countryman in your heart; you may surely reprove your neighbor, but shall not incur sin because of him. You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people; but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD."

Deuteronomy 32:35-36. "Vengeance is Mine, and retribution...for the LORD will vindicate his people and will have compassion on His servants..."

Even the Saducees who only followed the first 5 books of the OT would have remembered these teachings, so Christ isn't advocating prideful defiance, but rather humility and the call to allow God to fill His role as we follow ours.
@Tru, I found the interpretation I was thinking of. There's this book, Engaging the Powers: Discernment and Resistance in a World of Domination by Walter Wink. In it he interprets this part of the sermon as ways to non-violently subvert the power structure of the time.

As I said originally, striking someone deemed to be of a lower class with the back of the hand was used to assert authority and dominance. By turning the other cheek, the assaulter faced a dilemma; a forehanded slap was viewed as a challenge which would imply equality between the two, the left hand was used for 'unclean' purposes so preforming a backhanded slap with this hand would be to admit the act as unclean, and to do nothing showed weakness or lack of authority.

When someone sued you for your shirt/tunic, giving them your cloak as well would leave you naked, not only was this a situation forbidden by Hebrew law according to Deuteronomy, but based on Noah in Genesis, public nudity brought shame on any viewers present, not just the naked.

The going an extra mile part is also interesting because at the time, the occupying Roman troops could command a citizen to carry their things for one mile, no more. If it was found out that an individual had exceeded this distance, the soldier who had demanded their help risked suffering disciplinary actions.

So really the message wasn't to just be passive and compliant to injustices, but rather act in a way that discouraged them from being preformed in the first place while still maintaining a nonviolent approach.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
27 Dec 14 UTC
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Again, while that sounds like what was being advicated, it isn't. If you look at all of the examples and look at the initial statement, you'll see Christ was calling for non-resistance, not passive defiance. Read through the whole sermon. Don't dissect a single verse and take it differently than the whole passage warrants. It's hard to reconcile your interpretation with "blessed are the peace keepers" and "love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you", and "do to others as you would have them do to you" and then in the same breath attempt to say that Christ advocated resistance against authority. It's really a bad interpretation of Scripture (or any work for that matter)
Octavious (2701 D)
27 Dec 14 UTC
@ littlesoldierboy

I suggest you find a friend and act it out. You will discover the master is put in no dilemma whatsoever by the other cheek being turned, even if he genuinely believes open handed slaps indicate equality.


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ILN (100 D)
26 Dec 14 UTC
Possible 2 Years in Jail for Japanese "Artists" 3D Printed Vagina Modelled Kayak
http://www.digitaltrends.com/photography/japanese-artist-held-attempting-3 D-print-love-boat/

Not even the onion can come up with stuff like this lmao
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Lord Joseph (100 D)
26 Dec 14 UTC
REFILL IN SUPPLY CENTERS
How can I refill troops or fleets in my supply centers every autumm? Please answer. It´s the first time I´m playing "1914" on line.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Petition to honor the 1914 Great War Christmas Truce
...with a universal pause and message of peace and goodwill to all visitors to our site.
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President Eden (2750 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
North Korea: US govt 'deeply involved' in Sony film; strikes threatened
http://www.latimes.com/world/asia/la-fg-north-korea-sony-20141221-story.html

To think anybody caved to these loony tunes. smh
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Strauss (758 D)
07 Dec 14 UTC
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Time...
... is the most omnipresent and mysterious phenomenon of this world.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Ban Banning of +1 Whoring
Proposing to ban +1 whoring is the cheapest, most disgraceful form of +1 whoring. If you would like to join the ranks of +1 whores, you must prove yourself worthy. Young padawan Jamiet99uk has not yet done so. Thus, we should ban the banning of +1 whoring.

If you agree, do *not* +1 this post. Thanks.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
25 Dec 14 UTC
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Today's Number is 50
And on that note, probably quite a few games to take over. Merry Christmas all.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
26 Dec 14 UTC
Kitestring
http://www.elle.com/life-love/society-career/kitestring-app-safety-apps-women?src=spr_FBPAGE&spr_id=1448_53750142&linkId=8004743

In case anyone is interested in a safety/emergency app.
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tvrocks (388 D)
25 Dec 14 UTC
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Merry christmas
hannukah ended yesterday
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Octavious (2701 D)
24 Dec 14 UTC
Best Christmas Movies Of All Time
There is no disputing the top three, but in what order would you rank them?
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scholzelynx (0 DX)
22 Dec 14 UTC
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Is it even possible to Win as Austria
Seriously every game I play Austria always gets steamrolled. Is it possible to win as Austria
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
25 Dec 14 UTC
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To Those on the East Coast of the United States of America
Merry Christmas! May your life be prosperous and filled with joy.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Holiday Traditions
It seems that the thing to do on Christmas in Japan is go to KFC. Apparently they think that that is what we do in the US, and my sister, who lives here, told me most people are shocked to hear that KFC is actually closed on Christmas in the states.

What are the weirdest holiday traditions and is there a more successful marketing plan than by KFC in Japan, where hardly anyone actually celebrates Christmas at all?
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The biggest homosexual on this discussion board
According to Al Swearengen, I am the bearer of this illustrious title. Now, bow before your new fabulous king.
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Jamiet99uk (865 D)
22 Dec 14 UTC
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+1 Whoring
I say there should be a forum rule banning threads created just for +1 whoring. It's getting really annoying.

If you agree with me, +1 this thread.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
24 Dec 14 UTC
Best Quotes of 2014
With the year almost up, I'd like to see people's favorite quotes. Post your favorite quote, whom by, and threadID (if you can find it).
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chluke (12292 D(G))
24 Dec 14 UTC
are game Notes reliable and secure?
How secure and reliable are game Notes under the Notes press tab? I assume no other players can see your Notes, but can admin look at them?
Those of you who use Notes, have you ever had any reliability issues using the Notes tab?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Stop +1 Whoring
It's getting old.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
23 Dec 14 UTC
Special Holiday Game Tomorrow
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
24 Dec 14 UTC
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Triumvir412 (diplomacy commentary)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMoTFzSHipCJRSRAhQ_aYLg

simply thought you all may enjoy this. I found his commentaries interesting.
he does commentaries on games he has played and this may be useful to any new players out there
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Yellowjacket (835 D(B))
21 Dec 14 UTC
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Racism is alive and well in America
As above, below.
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