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02 Jun 13 UTC

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Socialism at work in Spain - viva Espana

I salute Comrade Juan Manuel Sanchez Gordillo, Mayor of Marinaleda - power to the people
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22701384

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02 Jun 13 UTC

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It is Chime for a Change

I hope that one day we won't need to Chime for Change ...... until then we should all be supporters, Jesus is
http://www.chimeforchange.org/

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System caused me to lose points

when i joined a live game, it was about 7:45 or something like that and when it was about to start the server started having problems. When i got back the next day, the game was finished and someone else won, is there anything that can be done to get my points back? the game was gameID=119628

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Masters Round 2 Game 2 EOG

I'll write an EOG here later. Thanks for the game everyone. I think it might have been my first time playing with everyone other than King Rishard and uclabb. It was pretty quick and fun. Shame I overplayed my hand and went for the solo too soon. I underestimated how quickly you guys would coordinate.

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01 Jun 13 UTC

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Four Live Games Cancelled

Due to the down time last night four live games started hours after they were scheduled too, they have been cancelled. More inside.

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01 Jun 13 UTC

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Masters Round 2 Game 6 - EOG

See below ...

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01 Jun 13 UTC

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A couple questions about convoys.

1. Can one fleet convoy two units in one turn? For example, if I have armies in London and Edinburgh, can a fleet in the North Sea convoy them to Holland and Norway, or do I have to choose one?

2. Can a fleet support the army it is convoying?

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31 May 13 UTC

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Novus Ordum Americanus

Fall of the Americas map, non-anon, 36 hour phases, 101 buy-in.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=119602

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02 Jun 13 UTC

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Quick question about Darwin in game

If there is a player who has left a game, but still has a couple of units/supply centres, and the game is drawn by the remaining players, does the player who left get fucked by natural selection?

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01 Jun 13 UTC

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Quick question about drawing a game

If there is a player who has left a game, but still has a couple of units/supply centres, and the game is drawn by the remaining players, does the player who left get a share of the draw?

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01 Jun 13 UTC

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New Variant Series?

Is anyone interested in creating a league or tourney for the new maps? I just want to play them, but it's hard to find games that aren't anon (because I have friends on this site, I don't wanna be accused for meta).
Or we could just get a couple games going. 5 point bet, at least 1 day phases, either map. Any takers?

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31 May 13 UTC

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Torture and kill redhouse OFFICIAL thread :)

gameID=119534
Classic, WTA, Full press, 100

entry, non-anon, 1 day phases.
Admission requirement: in the WTA-Classic-FP-non-live GR list you need to have a peak Ghost RATING of 145.15!!!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ar7_3gsXAPwtdHJJV203a2dRcHN5S19qc3l3elhRU0E&output=html

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31 May 13 UTC
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Variants

Have I hallucinated the new variants or did it actually happen?

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31 May 13 UTC
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Advertise Your Live Games Here

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01 Jun 13 UTC

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New party

Come on join my gunboat, in 15 minutes please !

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31 May 13 UTC

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7 more needed for world gunboat 12h. Quick confimations please!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=118575

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25 May 13 UTC

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The Sweden Riots Thread

(I never thought I'd write that)

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29 May 13 UTC

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*I* Have the Right to Remain Silent (But Sadly I Have the Privilege to Speak)

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/02/constitution.html A friend sent me this...and while I'm really not at all a fan of blogs (way of the future, I know, but they're so self-indulgent, self-aware, and slanted...almost like someone who posts on issues repeatedly in a forum...wait...) and I take issue counting our "rights" by the Bill of Rights...it did get me thinking--what "rights" that people claim to be rights are real, true rights, and which are merely privileges we allow ourselves?

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31 May 13 UTC

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Is there an easy way to access old PMs?

I know I can click the icon next to "Notifications" to see several of them, but is there a good way to see my PMs that are older than are available in the notifications screen? I've clicked around and can't seem to find it if there is...

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31 May 13 UTC

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Torture and kill redhouse

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30 May 13 UTC
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SoW Needs

I have two needs for the SoW: the first is a Russian player in the intermediate game. Russia has not shown up for his takeover position. There'd nothing wrong with the spot and needs to be filled. You would have ample time to talk and get adjusted.
The other is an assistant TA for Turkey in Game 1. The current TA is doing a great job but time zone differences make last minute communication difficult. If you're interested in one or the other or have questions, PM me.

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30 May 13 UTC

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Semi-mod abilities over one game?

When I start another private game with my friends (gameID=116936), and assuming the other players are OK with this, is it possible for me to be given the abilities to pause the game to prevent NMR, and to remove a player if they want to quit?

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30 May 13 UTC

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Kill redhouse

gameID=119466

Classic WTA Full press anon 850 point buy in, first 7 to respond to this ad get the password.

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30 May 13 UTC

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Live FTF In New York City

Does anyone who lives in the New York City area would like to get together to play Diplomacy face-to-face? Thanks.

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30 May 13 UTC

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Congresswoman Bachmann

I'm sure everyone's heard that Bachmann isn't going to run for reelection. I hope you can join me in a moment of silence for the best source of political comedic material since Sarah Palin.

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29 May 13 UTC

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Pope Francis

I haven't been reading too much about the new Pope, but so far I'm liking what I'm hearing. Thoughts on the new pope?

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Draugnar (0 )
29 May 13 UTC

Actually, gavrilop, you *did* make an inference of a resistance within the amred forces when you said this:

"German soldiers did join the resistance against the Nazis though, and that's what Benedict is being compared to. He did not do what others did."

I pointed out that German soldiers after 1942 did *not* join the resistance and that, in factm there was no resistance in Germany after 1942 (read the wiki article I posted). You are not comparing him to his peers of his day but to people from when he was a young teen (15 or younger). In those three years, everything changed. The SS exterminated anyone who even whispered of resistance in Germany. After 1942, there was no resistance. Period. It didn't happen. The hiding of Anne Frank's family was the exception, not part of an organized resistance and even it was over before Benedict turned 18.

But I suppose you will backpedal yet again (went from Nazi coward toi just coward was a backpedal, just to remind you of how you keep backpedalling).

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

I don't care how much God redeems him. The coward Benedict had power over other humans. And that's why other humans get to comment.

Draugnar (0 )
29 May 13 UTC

+1 Flemgem!

"Not a Catholic myself, but if we can't be redeemed from the sins we committed before we were 20 years old - sins we may have committed under the duress of one of the century's most oppressive regimes - what hope is there for anyone? " - QFT

Draugnar (0 )
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Look gavrilop, I am no fan of Benedict. I think he set the Catholic Church backward by several centuries. But I am still reminded of Matthew 7:3 and John 8:7.

redhouse1938 (429 )
29 May 13 UTC

From the website Draugnar quotes:

"Catholic anger was further fuelled by actions of the Gauleiter of Upper Bavaria, Adolf Wagner, a militantly anti-Catholic Nazi, who in June 1941 ordered the removal of crucifixes from all schools in his Gau. This attack on Catholicism provoked the first public demonstrations against government policy since the Nazis had come to power, and the mass signing of petitions, including by Catholic soldiers serving at the front. "

Incredible isn't it? They let the government invade tiny nations who never did them any harm, kill thousands of innocent people everywhere, but owww don't touch their beloved crosses!

Interesting to see how little has changed.

Draugnar (0 )
29 May 13 UTC

Well, yeah, Red. What do you expect? Look at they reacted to Luther's Articles of Reformation trying to spark a dialogue and seek truth through prayer and study and end corruption in the RCC. But that was all before Benedict was even a priest.

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

He could have shot a commanding officer in the face. Any soldier could do that. That's just one option. There are any number of things he could have done, violent or not. He could have committed sabotage. He could have smuggled for the Allies. Even if we pretend that it was impossible to resist after 1942, which is bullshit, OK he was 15 then? Still people his age joined the resistance. Willi Graf was 15 when he joined the resistance.

And here's what I said: "The objection that he was not a Nazi coward is noted. I amend it: he was just a fucking coward who served the Nazis and did not do what he could to oppose them."

You want to complain about me explicitly amending my words? That's weird. But I suppose it explains why you won't openly acknowledge your own error.

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

And holy shit, citing John 8. Nobody's talking about stoning the coward. Just pointing out that he was a coward who made no effort to oppose the greatest evil in recorded history.

Draugnar (0 )
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"He could have shot a commanding officer in the face."

And promptly been executed by firing squad. Germany had no compunction against summary execution without trial.

As far as John 8. You are casting verbal stones at him. If you can't see the analogy, then I fear for your future as you clearly lack the simple intellect of a 5 year old.

Draugnar (0 )
29 May 13 UTC

And I noticed you conveniently ignored the Matthew 7 reference. Equivocate much asshole?

Tolstoy (1962 )
29 May 13 UTC
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"He could have shot a commanding officer in the face."

Someone who could and would do this should not be Pope. This is unquestionably a far greater sin than wearing a silly uniform and lugging around a few crates of 20mm AA shells.

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

Yes, he could have risked his life. He did not. And there are other things he could have done too.

OMG, verbal stones. Why, it's a sin to say that anyone is ever unqualified for any position! Your analogy is meaningless shit. The story in John isn't a fucking analogy, it's a polemic against the death penalty, from a society which had public stoning.

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

Draugnar, I noticed you conveniently ignored how I corrected you on your earlier shitty analogy about primaries. PS, you're judging me by calling me an asshole. You should repent!

"Someone who could and would do this should not be Pope."

Okay, just brainstorming. He could have committed sabotage, or smuggled for the Allies.

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

In real-world morality, violent resistance against Nazi officers would be a good thing. But I'll accept the stipulated terms of Catholic nonviolent blahdeblah. As long as we're clear that any German soldier who ever fired on an enemy should not be Pope either.

Tolstoy (1962 )
29 May 13 UTC

"any German soldier who ever fired on an enemy should not be Pope either."

What about an American soldier who ever fired on an enemy?
Or an English soldier?
Or a French soldier?
How about a French soldier who only ever shot at Muslims or Buddhists in France's colonial wars?

Why only German soldiers who fired on the enemy?

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

If we're talking within the stipulations of Catholicism, some soldiers at some times have been excused because they're fighting "just wars." I dunno, ask a priest. Better yet, read the Catechism. ;)

Octavious (2701 )
29 May 13 UTC
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There is a strong argument that says a Pope should never have fired in anger under any circumstances. On a personal note I'd much prefer someone who fires on the enemy than someone who fires on his own comrades. Someone with the right stuff to be Pope, however, should fire on no one. Given the choice between death and acting against God's law the choice should be an easy one. A painfully harsh yardstick to measure a man with, I know, but a Pope should be exceptional.

FlemGem (1297 )
29 May 13 UTC
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@ gavrilop - I'd enjoy hearing some tales of your own spine-tingling courage and tear-jerking self-sacrifice. I've got a big bowl of popcorn and I'm snuggled up on the sofa ready to listen!

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

FlemGem, see my first reply to Tolstoy, a page ago.

FlemGem (1297 )
29 May 13 UTC
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The original Pope was a coward who denied Jesus three times before running away to hide while his best friend got killed. Jesus redeemed and reinstated him within a month - why can't a coward like Benedict be redeemed in 50 years? Paul was a murderer and church-persecutor and he wrote half the New Testament - but a teenager who shot at bombers that were firebombing his homeland can't be forgiven?

Do you believe in redemption or not? If not, you have no clue whatsoever what the Church - Catholic or otherwise - is about, and your ignorance *does* disqualify you from commenting. Oh, fine, you've got freedom of speech and the statue of liberty and so you can blah blah blah all you want. Go ahead, I won't mute you.

gavrilop (357 )
29 May 13 UTC

Forgive him all you want. He's not fit to be a prominent public figure.

And belief is not the same as understanding. I understand the dogmas just fine. But I didn't say anything about whether he was qualified to go to your happy place when he dies. Everyone rightfully gets to talk about whether behavior is moral and what we should expect from public figures.

bzip2 (100 )
29 May 13 UTC
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I like how none of this thread actually answers the question posed at the beginning of the thread, but is instead a giant flame war.

bzip2 (100 )
29 May 13 UTC

About a different topic...

loowkey (132 )
30 May 13 UTC

Atheists can go to heaven ! Yahoooo !

Timur (673 )
30 May 13 UTC

. . . and noo fur anither topic . . .

Timur (673 )
30 May 13 UTC

@loowkey: Think they'd let me through the door? St Peter's got a muckle cudgel.

loowkey (132 )
30 May 13 UTC

so long as you have done good in gods' eye
the catholics have a get out of jail card

grking (100 )
30 May 13 UTC

technically, everyone got a get out of jail card, if you want to be literal

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05 May 13 UTC

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Mega Pot Gunboat Game

express interest in 2013 point buy-in
wta gboat here

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27 May 13 UTC

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Memorial Day

Days like Memorial Day deserve special recognition; it doesn't even matter where you live. Hope and pray for the safety of troops around the world today.

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29 May 13 UTC

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COUPLE NEW GOONBATS

Looking to start 2 500

WTA GB games. Post of PM your interest.

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Watches

I'm looking to buy a watch. Definitely Mechanical, although I haven't decided on Automatic or Hand-Winding. Anyone have good brands or stores/sites to recommend?

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