http://www.businessweek.com/ap/2014-07-22/delta-cancels-all-flights-to-israel-indefinitely-cites-report-of-rocket-near-tel-aviv-airport

Yeah...those rockets are just for show, they're not doing any real harm...

"It's the same thing."

No it's not, you're categorically wrong...you can't change the definition of words to suit your argument.

A truce is NOT the same, in international terms, as a peace deal.

"Hamas has said it would cease all military activities. So the comparison doesn't work."

In 2002. It's 2014. Please get up to date.

"Can you make one post without mentioning North Korea or pandering to an audience that doesn't like you?"

I've made quite a few before I went back to that...but as we were talking about a truce--it was actually pertinent this time, as a ceasefire truce is exactly what the Koreas have.

"You're the one invoking policy positions from 1987 to talk about 2014, so that's rich. This has been Hamas's consistent position, consider that Hamas said this at the height of the 2nd Intifada."

I referenced Hamas in 1987 AND 2014, giving a QUOTE on their position from 2014.

When you can do the same, I'll take you...no, I still won't take you seriously, but at least you still won't be dodging that point.

"It's abundantly clear that you don't want peace. You just want to destroy Hamas, it doesn't matter what they do or what they have done."

1. I've said repeatedly I want peace, and that I think Hamas must be removed to do it.
2. You're Mr Conquest = Peace...what's your problem with Israel "conquering" Hamas, if that really is your line of thinking?
3. Well...actually, what they do and have done does matter, as it's their rocketing and attacks on Israeli soil now that have me arguing against these people (and also that aforementioned bit about their not recognizing Israel's right to exist and declaring that they'd love to destroy it and its people. But truly, that's the mark of ANY peace-loving organization...)

"Obi, you're hammering home on this one point, as if whether it's true or not justifies everything else. It does not. Nor is it a very solid point, as whether or not Hamas says they recognize Israel, they have to deal directly with Israel every day."

1. Yes, I do hammer this point home, as to me and everyone involved in what was once a peace process, that IS a key point of negotiation--it doesn't go anywhere without that point, without recognition of Israel's right to exist. That is a perfectly-valid point to harp on when it's one of the major points stopping up the peace process, by the admission of those who work(ed) on said peace process.

2. It is a solid point in the sense that it's true. I have the quote to prove it, I'll get more if people here would like. That is a solid bit of proven, quoted evidence that Hamas will not take a necessary step towards peace, recognizing Israel which, again, those who work on the peace plan say IS a necessary first step. It has to happen, Chairman, or there will be no peace...

So when Hamas says they will never meet such terms, that makes them, by the peace maker's own definition, not a party that's conducive to the situation needed for peace.

"My point goes over that and shows why that doesn't matter. It's not a tangible or realistic policy"

1. It does matter, for the aforementioned reason above, and

2. Realistic or no, it's tangible effects are being seen and felt right now.