Vecna, if you stop being so salty, I promise to not wagon onto you day 1. You're a good player and being in a foul mood does nothing to help the town.

Jamie gives us a fine example of the wrong kind of OMGUS while failing to answer the questions I've posed. He also wrongly criticizes Vecna's grammar, which was correct in this case. Keep diggin' that hole, bud.

@brain,
A. I joined the HR wagon because I was busy training the mods with him and I like, for no good reason really, to get a vote down almost immediately after the game starts. My vote was a joke vote. Y2k's was not, as far as I could tell. It was pretty clearly designed to give the HR wagon some semblance of legitimacy. I think this was a reaction test that worked marvelously, but other scenarios are possible as well. I'm not sure what you're saying I've misinterpreted. You're advocating a strategy that I've long disagreed with you on. There's nothing to misinterpret.
B. Huh? My vote was a joke vote. Y2k's was not, I don't think. Jamie reacted seriously to it, and I found his reaction unacceptable.
C. I didn't use a joke vote as a litmus test for shit. I joke voted because there's nothing else to do before anyone's talked and I like to be silly at the beginning of the game. Then something happened that happened to be related to the joke vote and I formed a real opinion.
D. This isn't new for Vash. I suspect Vash for doing scummy things, not Vashy things.
E. How has anything I've done gained me town cred? The only people who seem to care about anything I'm saying are you and Jamie, and your opinions of me are decidedly negative. A page one joke vote is not the same thing as actively working to confuse players or lurking, both of which you suggested townies do. I'm also not defending y2k. I think his play is pretty suspect, and I've said as much. I just like Jamie more right now. If y2k disappears for the whole day, that'll change.

Question for you now: You say that last game you were able to find PRs because townies were making themselves out to be PRs and PRs weren't, yet instead of advocating that one group or the other change their play to correct this, you simply suggest that the townies mimic that play again. The fuck is up with that?

Okay Ghug I will answer your questions:

"Jamie, when you first posted, what did you think specifically was the motivation behind the three votes for HR? Did you think they were serious? Did you think it was the mafia trying to get HR lynched? Did you think it suggested that all three of us were scummy, only some of us, or none of us?"


ANSWER: I didn't know, and that's why I asked. I felt that your explanations for voting HR when he hasn't even posted yet may provide some information. Now that you have responded I find your response suspect.

Yes my HR vote was a reaction test. Thus far brainbomb is the guy that sticks out to me, I felt like he was doing everything he could to egg me on and continue saying things he can spin as scummy. Also, compared with Vash's long post of good ideas, brainbomb' big post right after read like utter shit to me.

@Goldfinger, what makes you think im a good player? We've only played together in the last game where my play was pretty poor. Are you trying to buddy up to me? Because im allergic to that since last game.

And about wagons on me, so far there have been wagons on me in pretty much any mafia game but they never seem to take off. I dont fear the lynch, no tree or rope can take me on, itll require a bullet or a visit from our not so friendly neighbourhood mafia.

Krellin being quiet is unusual. Xorxes once again has a scumvibe to me. And where is lurkeHR?

Looking over the first 6 pages, this Teacon7 guy is a clear rabbit. We should remove his little hide and eat him and make him bungle from a tree.

boooring

What is all this guff about rabbits?

Rabbits are food to satiate the ever present hunger of the town investigative squad. Duh

Good morning, peeps. Just wanted to check in and wish everyone a good game. I don't have time at the moment to get deep in to things but I'll be back this afternoon to catch up on what's happening as well as adding my input and reads.

Anyone feel like lynching brainbomb with me? It's nothing personal brain, you are fairly amusing, but your game style is to confuse everyone rather than try to solve the puzzle. In fact, your novella of a post right after Vash's seemed to be a call to arms to play so as to "confuse scum" by fake claiming, pretending to be this role or that, breadcrumbing roles, etc. To be fair, you do practice what you preach, in that you try to confuse the town rather than work to clear things up.

To all: If you're town, your job is to help organize the strands on the plate of tangled spaghetti we're handed at the beginning of the game. Brainbomb advocates for a method of straightening out the spaghetti that is taking an electric hand-mixer to it. It's counter to logic and it's counterproductive.

Join me, concerned citizens, in getting rid of brainbomb and let's start unraveling this mess we've been handed. Don't fake claim, don't fake breadcrumb, don't make things more confusing to the point where the only information we can trust is the dead players' flips. ##VOTE brainbomb.

For the sake of something happening (and it's nothing personal), I can get aboard that wagon.

##VOTE brainbomb

Having to make five substantial posts is going to get me killed...

I don't think day 1 is particularly useful until someone slips up, so when in doubt, I'll vote for someone I can't stand reading in this game.

##vote brainbomb

Chaqa not tunneling Ghug is a very clear scumtell. He has done so every game where he was town. Statistical probability clearly means theres only one proper course of action. ##vote Chaqa

Lets kill Chaqa? Lets kill Chaqa.

@Vecna -- just logged on, and literally the first thing I see on my screen is "Krellin being quiet is unusual"

No, not really. One, I have stated my views on day one idiocy and I'm not interested in participating in the impending mad dash to kill a townie, complete with absurd conversation that whet the insatiable appetite of the local wanna-be psychics. I despise the Day 1 bullshit. Hell, I despise the Day 2 bullshit.

Last game, I played a mad-dog rabid style and I had probably three of the mafia called out within a couple days, and I couldn't get a single person to listen to me.

So....you know...what am I supposed to say? I'll watch the stupidity unfold and sit back and watch.

##VOTE brainbomb

Just because it's fun. But he's NOT mafia. Therefore....wait for it...

##UNVOTE

More to the point on my quietness, the game didn't start until 6 PM on a sunday night. I had work to do (like, actual work for my company) reviewing some processes documentation. Then I was looking at vacation plans with my wife. Then I watched the repeat of last week's TWD and then the new episode. Even at that, I made a few comments.... but there was nothing -- and STILL is nothing -- really worth commenting on.

I think this is just you being a chickenshit because you realize from last game I will analyze your voting habits and you will hang from them eventually. Scum

Also, mightily defensive play there, but thank you for completely listing your itinerary. Ill contact your secretary to plan some time in your agenda for mafia.

My money is on at least 1 modkill this day. Moscowfleet is probably gonna get it.

OBG - thats an interesting play you do there, suddenly trying to form a wagon out of nothing. Do you really think BB's play is so damn confusing to town or was there something or someone that required attention diverting?

Maybe you were protecting jamiet who is suddenly playing a whole lot different from last games? Trying to antagonize people slightly and attempting to somewhat copy bb's and krellin's style?

I'm playing differently from the last games? You're the one who's had a personality transplant, Veccybabes.

Note: I am preparing a detailed log of interactions and significant voting behaviours, and I will be in a position to give some reads this evening (UK time, so in about 6 hours). It would help if HR would show up, since he's been the subject of much discussion and "joke" voting.

I intend to be as productive and helpful to my concerned compatriots here in Mushroom town as I can, but excuse me if I get a bit snarky when people like Ghug throw utterly ridiculous accusations at me.

^ rabbit-transformation nearly achieved

Wheres Balki when you need him to get a proper D1 donkeyparade

@ Vecna: What do you want from me? Why are you trying to antagonise me?

Hey jamiet, how do you like Chaqa's behaviour? He posts on the forum in other threads but complains the post requirement is going to get him killed. He doesnt do anything of substance exept post a useless vote on brainbomb that he knows will draw no attention since its just that thing people love to do.

Yeah lets kill chaqa