494 (hexadecimal palindrome)

495 just a plain hexadecimal number

Hey again.

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Hi dog/fish

What do you think Draugnar means? Draug=wolf and nar=fire.

What?

I just posted that because in Hebrew, "dog" means fish...

Yhat's the elvish version of the name. The Orcish version would be: Scarabal. Though in the Orcish there are 2 words for wolf and 3 for fire so you'd have several possibilities to choose from.

πυρκαγιά λύκων

That's Greek ^

Hellalt. Can you confirm.the validity ofbthe Greek? Hellalt is from Greece so he careful when you type Greek that it is 100% accurate and not from Google Translate. :-)

I would go with "φλογερός λύκος" myself, as it gets the adjectival meaning of fire (correct me if I'm wrong in that that was your intention Draug), but those are acceptable words for fire and wolf, as far as I know.

And fire is.meant to be the adjective. I was playing the dog lord (one of the nazgul) and used Tolkien's appendices in Return of the King.to.develop the name only.to discover later that I had overlooked a singular reference to a character at Orthanc named Draugnar.

I don't know modern Greek, but my homer is pretty good. I think, since Tolkien used older forms of words (dwarves instead of dwarfs) and manners of speech (the further east the fellowship traveled), you should aim for an older formation of the Greek.

To that purpose, λύκοπυρ is about as close as you might get in Homeric. If I remember tomorrow, I'll look through my large desk dictionaries at the office.

So Draugnar = flaming bitch?

Let my wolf bang your wife and we'll see how much of a bitch he is.

@dubm, I'll admit that my knowledge of Greek is very limited, but I've never seen that ending before, and I think that "λύκος" works in Ancient Greek as well.

@THM, does the wolf have that connotation in Greek as well?

No idea, ghug. I lack that linguistic expertise. However, I do hail from San Francisco, where one hears rumors of male bitches well versed in Greek.

Ah, I'm curious now. Is that even a thing in English?

Πυρ is of the third declension, ie "consonant declension" or "n-declension." It doesn't look like an ending you've seen probably due to this. I'm not familiar with what specific simplifications Greek underwent from homer to modern. I suspect the loss of third declension may be among them?

I followed basic compound word formation, but I cannot recall at the moment if homer prefers head-initial or head-final compounds. What I wrote is head-initial (so accurate understanding is "fire-wolf" while literal is "wolf-fire," and since English prefers head-final, you'd think the literal is correct, though that is false in Orcish, so too is it false in my made up word). I think he actually uses both based on the meter.

Really, I need to check my dictionaries for the adjective form of πυρ since third declensions can have unpredictable exceptions. It may be better to use φοιβος "shining" since that is used of Helios. The fire connection would be understood to a Homeric contemporary. I'll sleep on it and (probably) remember to check at the office tomorrow. For now, I'll chalk all errors to the late night. Cheers!

All of my knowledge of Greek is of the Homeric variant, but that knowledge is very limited. I didn't realize that your word was a compound and it got me confused.

As best I can tell from my grammars (Smyth, in particular), Homer prefers head-final compounds. So πυρλυκος would be more accurate. For metrical reasons, I could conceive of about three reasonable variants. Homer does use noun-noun formations where the initial noun acts as an adjective, so I'm going to stick with πυρλυκος and suggest that a more adjectival form could be used if the meter required.

let's see what I missed on this thread.....

not going to read it, just posting

A post just to post so that I really don't have to post anything.

A post to beat the Lying Diplomat

A post such that I will never be beat

A post to point out Legatus was defeated thrice

And FD is defeated as well.

as is celtic.

Nope not atm. And post 1200