Goldie makes excuse to bow out and hide already? Ugh. Time zone, Goldie?

Krellin, you latched onto a concrete game fact, but it's beyond apparent in rhetoric that you hate the guy and that your general assessment of him as a person is relevant here.

Reedeer, I don't understand what you're saying. ##VOTE reedeer until you add some modicum of sense to what you're saying.

Goldie is EST.

I am not quite sure of what I'm saying, just like I'm not quite sure of who to vote for.

Ggug. Game is game, out side game is irrelevant.

FACT: UPON RETURNING yesterday one of my FIRST PM's was to Jamie to check on him, personally.

You don't know know shot about me or my feelings towards anyone... And if you know me at all, Yoy know I treat games as games, and debate as debate.

Jamie is suspicious BECAUSE HE IS SUSPICIOUS, NOT because he is a dick.

WHY are you defending him?

Ghug...m EST,...WAY too early to check out. Suspicious.

Ggug... DEFEND JAMIE if you think I'm wrong.

jamiet's obsession with the miller role is a scum tell. why would a VT be irked about maybe being a miller? it implies he's already thinking about the cop. that's a scum tell.

I'm not defending anyone. I'm simply questioning a hypocrite. Why are you trying to force a krellin/Jamie dichotomy?

Reedeer, nobody has a good idea who to vote for right now. It's early. That doesn't mean you should cop out and commit to sleeping someone who you don't have nearly enough information on to form a meaningful opinion.

Ggug, YOU are implying a Jamie/Kremlin dichotomy. So what... Now any time I question someone it is because odd personal animosity???? I have personal animosity with EVERYONE on this site... And YOU KNOW IT.

GHUG is throwing intentional false flags now.

BAM!!! GHUG...my #vote solidifies his #2 stank position. Well done, scum.

@ghug I will probably change my vote lator. for now I can read all your reactions to what I did.

did you see how warden reacted? It makes me think he is town.

I can feel where Jamie is coming from in some respects, weeks of waiting and hype to fall into a VT that could for worse, be harming the town itself (with the twist of not knowing they're doing it).

reedeer (much like myself) is new to your forum game and may just be harmless newbie play. To be honest I'm just throwing a lot of thoughts and activity in to try and break into the habit of *not* being a lurk.

Still think it's a few hours early for scum calls yet for me, not a ton of tells yet.

Note: link Reeder to warden

Demon (ironic name....) Never too early to call scum and provoke the guilty into action.... Or inaction ...

What? You want to wait until just before the vote to provoke the crowd?

Next you proclaim you are against the day one Lynch!!!

@Krellin: "Oh refer is a fool, don't judge his incompetence."

-Why don't you want me to question Redeer1 on his statements? Why do you assume it is "incompetence" and not scummy behavior.

Not at all krellin, I've just seen many early claims go very bad. In a long game like this one I am most definitely **not** against a D1 Lynch. I just feel it may be a bit early to drop the hammer, seeing as how a lot of us haven't even made more than a courtesy post.

Demon, I've seen many LATE claims go bad. Fact is, sowing distrust early is "safe"....

A big presentation I have to make in the morning, krellin.

what alliance do you guys think Krellin is?

Maybe a quick strategy question before I really go, though. Is it beneficial to Lynch the virgin day 1? Gives our PR's one free night of investigating.

Fair enough krellin. Not to mention you have a lot of time to change based on reactions. I guess being passive is a lot of why I'm not that good at Diplo XD

I'd say save the virgin for if things get tight at the end, if possible

Goldie... Waiting with baked baited (and skeptical) breath

Demon, I do believe you made a dirty innuendo. Bravo. +1 for you.

You cannot +1 posts in the game. It was funny but that is in the rules guys.

Is it day or night? I dont know what it starts on.

Also we should get rid of krellin for hatimg on goldie and being way too distrusting and overly confident

@SkiingCougar: These games usually start during the DAY phase so I assume that is the case here, but I just checked the post that started the game and didn't see a specific DAY/NIGHT cycle listed.

Ok thanks