"other than your religious belief in man made climate change" I love this guy.

They may try to run you out and tell you you're wrong BOG, but please never change.

I will change when presented with facts, and not religious beliefs

It seems that you are the one with the religious belief, BOG. We've given you all the info that any sane, intelligent person would need to understand how anthropomorphic climate change works, but you seem hell bent on it being false.

Anthropogenic*

I intend my post to open up discussion as to whether climate change is worth prioritizing, not whether it exists or not. For the purposes of this discussion assume that it exists.

anthropomorphic climate change:

Hi! I'm climate change! I'll cook you all! :)

Lol oops. Darn tablet. That's what I meant.

Picture a red-tinted cloud with wavy red arrows pointing outwards, and a beaming smiley face.

yoyo "We've given you all the info that any sane, intelligent person would need to understand how anthropomorphic climate change works, but you seem hell bent on it being false." show it again. I seem to have missed it. Saying something does not make it true. Exactly how does man's activities warm the planet. How can man warm mars? how can man cool mercury?

Make Mars's atmosphere thicker and full of GHGs. The reason why Venus is warmer than Mercury, yet further away is because of its atmospheric composition.

Let me ask you this: Do you believe that Venus is warmer than Mercury? I certainly hope so. Why do you think that is? Hopefully the answer is it's atmosphere, which is thick of CO2.

Another question: If CO2 is the reason that Venus is so warm, would CO2 have the same effect here on Earth? One more: If CO2 can cause the earth to get warmer, Do you think that an organism that causes this atmospheric CO2 to be produced more rapidly will speed up the warming if the Earth?

the warming of the Earth*

Has BOG linked to scientific papers discussing the climate trends on other planets, by any chance? Even better would be surveys of the research on extraterrestrial climates.

I don't know how BOG has equated man-made global warming on Earth to alien-made global warming on Venus. But it's funny.

Sure, some fat slob sitting on his coach with random half baked thoughts has a better idea of what is true than the thousands of highly intelligent, highly trained dedicated scientists have concluded from over a century of scientific research.

Gentlemen: I give you the modern Republican Party. In my country, people of this can vote. Is there any surprise that the US is quickly turning into a shithole?

Want facts? Here: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar5/
Read this. Shut up until you have. Thanks

Obviously, Ogion, that is a religious text. The Bible of Climate-Change Believers, if you will. Their Church is the IPCC.

Ogion, dont talk about Ghug like that

the burns

Gobble "I don't know how BOG has equated man-made global warming on Earth to alien-made global warming on Venus." Question: if the temperature on Venus moves in the same direction as the temperature on earth, how does man's activities affect climate change? A simple question.

1+1 = 2
1+2 = 3
Adding 1 and 2 both increase the result
therefore 1 = 2
???

BOG - here is a graph of temperature and atmospheric CO2 concentration over time, using data from ice cores in Greenland.

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/400000yearslarge1.gif?w=720

I got a link from it on an outside site, since not everyone has access to academic journal articles, but the citation is Shakun et al. (2012), Nature.

So this is facts. CO2 is correlated with temperature change.

https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=anthropomorphic+climate+change&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0CBoQgQMwAGoVChMI-dHHzrLzyAIVR6WICh1IzQ22
People actually use the term "anthropomorphic climate change," and Gobble's image makes that fact so much more hilarious than it should be.

My god. Apparently scientists are now writing their papers on iPhones. We are doomed.

Another take on the CO2 temperature connection.

http://www.rsc.org/images/Arrhenius1896_tcm18-173546.pdf

Gobble's image? I might be having an identity crisis here.

That's a really cool link there, Ogion. I don't know whether I should be happy or sad that academic journal writing styles haven't chanced in the past 120 years. Its cool though that the leading scientists of the time were figuring this out in the 19th century.

Until further notice, I'm going to take BOG's lack of response as 'no, I haven't linked any scientific research on extraterrestrial climates, and I'm not going to.' So BOG's assertions about equivalence between Earth's temperature trends and extraterrestrial climate trends are worth their weight in gold.

Yep. Arrhenius' estimate of the climate sensitivity (the rise in temperature per increase in CO2) was remarkably close to the consensus today. But yes, bad writing dies hard.

Upon reflection, it's really damned unfortunate that it isn't gobbledydook who is posting the gobbledygook.

Why does anyone feed the troll?