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redhouse1938 (429 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
Trump
Hmm...
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-twitter-tirade-121707.html?hp=rc3_4_b1
My guess is he's actually a very insecure person who's now deliberately turning himself into a caricature so as to be absolutely unelectable.
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Octavious (2701 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
Or not, even...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/apr/18/nigel-farage-rejects-ukip-tie-french-front-national
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
@ kahudd: "we are certainly in "don't feed the troll" territory"

Are you referring to me? Every quote I posted was a genuine quote from Donald Trump, presumably all uttered when he was refreshingly speaking his mind. The fact that some people actively want such an ignorant bigot to be their leader is quite worrying if you ask me.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
30 Aug 15 UTC
"the other is an idiot that should be told he is wrong whenever the opportunity presents itself."

Ehhhhh go fuck your self #CantStopWontStop
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Aug 15 UTC
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Are we discussing whether or not Donald Trump is a joke or are we actually discussing whether or not there is merit in voting for him?

Either way:

• He told a contestant on "The Apprentice" that it would be a "pretty picture" to see her on her knees.
• He quoted a tweet that suggested that if Hillary Clinton can't "satisfy" her husband, she can't satisfy America.
• He told Megyn Kelly that the only reason she was asking him tough, real questions as opposed to the usual media fluff is that she must be on her period.
• He generalized undocumented immigrants as drug dealers, rapists, and criminals.
• His idea of foreign policy is to force Mexico to build a giant wall on the US-Mexico border.
• His other idea of foreign policy is to march into the Middle East and bomb the fuck outta them for oil.
• He gave out a senator's private phone number on national TV out of anger.
• He said POWs, specifically John McCain, aren't war heroes because they were captured and didn't really do anything while they were chained up and tortured.
• He said that Obama has been a disappointing President, therefore there won't be another black President for a long time.
• He said he would date his daughter if she wasn't his daughter.
• His ex wife claims that he raped her.
• He has the full support of the KKK leadership. People chant white power at his rallies. That should tell you a lot.

This dude is the figurehead that the rest of the world has been waiting for to point out how stupid the US's leadership is. How a guy with no political experience, open misogyny, racism, and lust for war after war, and a guy whose only public work prior to his run for President come from his reality TV show is set to win the Republican nomination is beyond incredible. He's a businessman. Whether he wins or loses, he's gonna line his pockets, he's gonna fuel his ridiculous ego, and he's gonna go spend thousands to keep his hair from falling out. His nomination would be a joke that would show just how powerful stupid people can be in large numbers.
principians (881 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
"He has the full support of the KKK leadership. People chant white power at his rallies." Impresive
principians (881 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
I'm seeing an article saying that Trump's wife revealed in an 1990 interview with Marie Brenner that Trump used to read from the "My new order" Hitler speeches book.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
30 Aug 15 UTC
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Lol of course Octavious is a UKIP supporter, and of course Santa insists on the old narrow, academic meaning of "fascism," given that be supports the fascist policies of Israel.

Look, since you haven't read a book since 1942, let me update you on how the word's meaning has changed.

The year is 1945, and the fascist governments have been defeated at war. Shocked by the full extent of the holocaust and all the devastation of the war, the general public repudiated fascism as a concept. Then, as the years went on, and people were thinking more directly about what went wrong in Germany, and so on, they started to identify *general, unifying trends and characteristics* that made the fascist governments so fucked up. And those properties increasingly were associated with the word the governments used to describe themselves: fascism.

And so now, fascism means pretty much exactly what jamiet listed, though of course the details are debatable, but the broad form is clear.

And thus it is not an intellectual leap at all to characterize the Trump campaign as fascist or neo-fascist if you like, nor the Front National, not Israel, ironically.

If you want to insist on the old, arcane meaning, we can't stop you, but it doesn't make you any less wrong. I can tell from this thread alone that im not the only one who understands what the term fascism refers to in 2015. And indeed as I implied in the first lines of this post, it is highly likely that willfully obscuring what fascism means modernly is something people with a political agenda do, i.e. A support of Israel for example who understands that the modern definition of a fascist society *applies to israel* will attempt to deny the broad understanding of the term's existence of validity, so as to avoid justified comparisons with, well, other fascist regimes.
principians (881 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
Santa, you support Israel policies?

Anyway, Thucy, I'm under the impression that you've been discussing over a semantic point that goes nowhere. What's the actual definition of a word, for me, cannot have less importance. The important thing is that everyone agree with the definition, and then move to analyze the implications of that definition. To get stuck with semantic discussions only avoids us to analyze things any further.

Furthermore, discussion with definition A or B, are totally equivalent. For example:

A. "fascism is any set of ideas that has certain specific parallelisms with the set of ideas Mussolini's group held" then "Trump is a fascist"

is absolutly quivalent to

B. "fascism is that set of ideas Mussolini's group held" the "Trump has certain specific parallelisms with fascism"

What we must do now is to move on and analyze which are those parallelism, and why should we worry about them
Thucydides (864 D(B))
30 Aug 15 UTC
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I agree except that Santa is trying to hold onto an obsolete definition for political reasons and I am here to call him out on it
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
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Call me out, right. It seems like there's a wide consensus that you are the one using the word for political motives. Anything you don't agree with = fascist.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Aug 15 UTC
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There is no way to justify much of Israeli policy. Literally. It's just as futile as justifying the genocides here in the United States with the indigenous natives and slaves. You can't.
You use literally as well as Thucydides uses fascist
kahudd2000 (157 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
Alright. Thread muted. Have fun, all.
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
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Oh no, he muted the thread. We've missed so many keen insights about Donald fucking trump! How will we carry on!
principians (881 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
why Kahudd whyyy?

Santa, may I repeat you the question?
Do you support Israel policies?
Thucydides (864 D(B))
30 Aug 15 UTC
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No I definitely have political motives.
We both do, it's just that you aren't owning up to yours
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
31 Aug 15 UTC
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I've supported Israeli policies in the past, under the current government I don't. I believe in a secure Israeli state along the lines of the post independence borders with jewish self rule. I also believe in a secure Palestinian state at peace with Israel and a shared capitol in Jerusalem. I support policies that work closer to that goal, so as I said, I do not support the policies of this government.
Ok an apple is an orange, you are so persuasive.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
31 Aug 15 UTC
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There's a Dilbert joke you've just reminded me of:

Boss: "You can't compare apples and oranges."
Dilbert: "That's clearly wrong, because you just compared them and declared them different."
Wally: "Apples and oranges are both foods that grow on trees. It would be totally valid to compare them nutritionally."
Dilbert (to boss): "I've noticed that a lot of what comes out of your mouth makes no sense."
Boss: "You sound like my wife."
Wally: "You can't compare your wife to your employee. That's apples and oranges."
Delbert is a fascist
JamesYanik (548 D)
31 Aug 15 UTC
+1 Jamiet. well done
principians (881 D)
07 Sep 15 UTC
Had to bump this because of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPlpdlNDGEk


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leon1122 (190 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
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Suggestion
This website should have statistics for each country of each map (wins, draws, losses, etc.) like vdiplomacy.

I know this is a feature request and I'm supposed to check the todo list, but the forum that the "todo list" link directs to doesn't seem to have been used since last year, and I can't seem to find the actual list anywhere.
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DeathLlama8 (514 D)
03 Sep 15 UTC
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Let's Make an Openings Compilation/Magazine
As above, below.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
04 Sep 15 UTC
Should Christian Doctors be forced to perform abortions, or face prison time?
It's a perfectly legal medical procedure. If Christian marriage license clerks aren't allowed to refuse to license gay marriages, why not?
70 replies
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backscratcher (459 D)
05 Sep 15 UTC
Help needed, someone please pick up France in TheModerne
Help needed, someone please pick up France in the game TheModerne.
2 replies
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
14 Jul 15 UTC
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Gunboat SOW - Summer 2015
This thread is for the Summer 2015 Gunboat School of War (SOW). Please be courteous to those running the game and respect any reasonable requests they may make. This semester the Gunboat School of War will be overseen by Yaleunc and Valis2501. gameID=164473
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Zach0805 (100 D)
05 Sep 15 UTC
Anniversary
Join the 12th game in the Fall of Labor Day series in its 12 month anniversary
(The game number and months are the same)
You only have 3 days because this game is starting on Labor Day
gameID=166982
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IRidePigs (1386 D)
04 Sep 15 UTC
New Medium Skill Level Game
Hey all, I'm starting a game for players who want a competitive game but aren't at an extremely high skill level. Starting bet is 150 D. WTA, hidden draw votes. Phases last 24 hours.

Game Id: gameID=166928
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Sep 15 UTC
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Fresh off the presses! SoW Winter 2015 Recap!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re_oHsbd0QE

A quick recap of the last SoW threadID=1234165
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D.Trump (40 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
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America's Abortion Issue
If you think a fertilized egg is living but not millions of refugees, you've got some rethinking to do.
142 replies
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
01 Sep 15 UTC
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webDip Presents Gunboat Commentary with Valis!
We are currently hard at work on original content. In the meantime, though, check out the first 4 videos of Valis' awesome Gunboat commentary series! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vFFJpr_UqA&index=1&list=PLtzcMVBliKRLu23NLGvc4h87LtDEFC4lR
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Check_mate (100 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Another f2f in London?
seems to be a growing appetite for f2f's, and as there are American and Dutch ones currently or recently planned / in the pipeline, I thought I'd see if there was any demand for another one in London (or elsewhere in the UK). Really enjoyed my first f2f experience at that gathering back in March.
16 replies
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Favorite Coloquial Rude Phrase
Personal favorite, currently, is douche canoe. Thoughts? Opinions?
3 replies
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__________ (0 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Iran Nuclear Deal
Should America have let Iran build Nuclear Weapons?
57 replies
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Sep 15 UTC
BGG Con / Texas
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1429189/bggcon-diplomacy-play
Anyone know anything or want to help put together something?
11/18-11/22
Hyatt Regency DFW Airport
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Diploman123 (0 DX)
03 Sep 15 UTC
7 or 5 person game soon
are there people that are willing to start a fast game soon so we can all join at once and have a fast game? I believe we need to organize before so post if you can start a game within the next 10 or so minutes
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curtis (8870 D)
03 Sep 15 UTC
Med Game for Rich
Why cant I join?
3 replies
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
24 Aug 15 UTC
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Face To Face in Groningen, Netherlands
Sunday 30 August there, the Netherlands Diplomacy Association (freshly set up) will be organising a game in Groningen. Almost two tables already, so PM me if you're interested! You can also sign up on the official NDA mailing list:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nederdip
32 replies
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Quick Tactical Question
If Russia agrees to be part of a Sea Lion, is it typically expected to move Army Moscow to St Pete's on the opening phase?
18 replies
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
01 Sep 15 UTC
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CD Takeover Refund
Anyone who takes over an open position can post here (non anon games) or pm me (anon games) for a full refund on the position until September 10th.
9 replies
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Caballo Blanco (1005 D)
02 Sep 15 UTC
September Ghost Ratings!
Oh where are you...
82 replies
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
31 Aug 15 UTC
Lusthog?
It's been awhile, is anyone up for a new round? Maybe like 3 or 4 games?
17 replies
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thdfrance (162 D)
31 Aug 15 UTC
Back To School Game
Well mates, I've finished two long weeks of RA training, and classes start tomorrow. In honor of my sophomore I'd like to put together a back to school game. Classic, 24-48 hour phase, WTA. Bet size and anon I'm willing to discuss. SO anyone looking for a game?
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kasimax (243 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
modern gunboat tournament
i'm planning on starting a modern gunboat tournament with each participant playing every country exactly once. wta, 11-point buy-in (so you'll need 110 to participate), 36-hour phases, staggered start (i was thinking about five games at the beginning at the next five after 4-5 years).

who's in?
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
I'm tired
On a lising streak... was hoping to win just one so as to leave with a better pointage to stay on the top 100 for a while, f' it. NMRing last games and saying thx so long for all the stinky fish. bye!!! :)
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seth24c (5659 D)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Spartan races.
See below!
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ssorenn (0 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
need an Italy
only the brave mat apply

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=165756
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rmf (100 D)
28 Aug 15 UTC
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F2F Berlin
I stopped playing games here in webdip a few months ago, but I still got the Diplomacy bug, and I see F2Fs are growing in popularity here in the forum. So... Anyone in the neighbourhood of Berlin willing to join for an F2F in the German capital?
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backscratcher (459 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
What is this Mafia?
What is this Mafia?
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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
29 Aug 15 UTC
Objective diplomacy
A game where you can win by getting 18 centers, or achieving your "secret objective", determined before the start of the game.
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