He is festooned in a colorful array of mismatched clothes. His pockets are filled with knick-knacks, and cart behind him is filled with various wares - the special items he has taken from his victims. Seemingly the roadside salesman, he is nothign but a thief and a murderer.

So I'm a bit late to this party, but where the hell is everyone seeing misogyny on here? Maybe I don't have the "triggers" that others do, but I just don't see it.

@Chaga if you can't see it, you need to learn a little here. Take a look at the various quotes from Krellin and the lack of slamming them down his foul, sexist throat, for a start. Look to the kind of casual stereotyping that is going on all over the place. Notice, there are no women chiming in here. Why the hell would they? I'm sure they deal with gangs of racist, sexist assholes all over the place. The fact that Kestas and Zultan endorse this and even make some pretty foul types into mods only compounds it.

All I can say is that my muted list keeps growing longer. (Wish we could mute mods also in forum. After all, they aren't forum mods, so why the special powers in the forum?)

ahhh ha ha...ogion...you're a funny funny little boy. Go ahead, demonstrate.

Ogion....who keeps a growing mute list...and yet claims to know what everyone is saying, and everyone is thinking.

Typical mindless thought-police-loving LIBTARDISM at its finest....

lmaooo i love the CAPS.

But do you love vagina?

Ogion, I've gotten several vibes from krellin, but sexist is not one of them.

Until someone links me to a real misogynistic post, I will assume you're all being insane.

Chaqa - These are thought-police Libtards. That are *void* of any sense of humor, and wish to live in a uniform, gray, bland world or forced *sameness*....and note, equality =/= same.

In a real human being's world, equality is equaity, *despite* the things that make us difference.

In a Libtard's world, forced *sameness* is the objective, and universal misery woudl be the result.

Nope

I mean...look at these pathetic wretches...you can't make a joke without them feigning outrage, telling everyne how horrible they are, the world, etc...and yet, ironically, their assertions that they are only protecting everyone comes from a state of being where they - the white male - is and must be the protector of what they percieve as the weaker humans. See the irony?

Krellin - is anyone listening?
Please someone listen to Krellin because if you don't pretend to take him serious he just gets worse :-)

Awww...you care...

I have Krellin muted, and I'm not going to be unmuting him, but if you can't see that saying [whatever negative thing he said] is because women have vaginas is sexist as all hell, then I'm going to think that you can't see it because you've got enough of the same attitudes that you think that is totally fine. Since I'm going on partial quotes, it's entirely possible I'm reading that wrong.

What are some of the chapter titles for your book, krellin?

For one, may I suggest BECAUSE OF THEIR VAGINA...

For example, take a look at the parts that Obiwan quotes for comments just rife with sexism. Sounds like Socrates also has some examples for you.

And no, I would never recommend this site to my friends.

Ogion, he was making a case that women SHOULDN'T be treated that way. You should actually read krellin's posts I think.

Krellin - I'm not a white male. Nice assumption though. I'll give examples later when I'm on a laptop

Awww....Obi, I was serious about wanting to base a character on you - it's an honor, really. I thought maybe invovling you in my writing - and it's a serious project - might be a little olive branch. :( Truth is, I'll create the character anyway. :)

Chaqa - Ogion is hopeless. Maybe the problem is this -- to understand the krellin, you have to *endure* him for quite some times. He comes off like an asshole...but in truth, he's about freedom, justice, following the law, and equal treatment for all....which - and this is where Libtards get their panties in a bunch - NO special treatment to compensate for something that happened to someone else by someone else other than me and you. I think there are enough *wildly* successful minorities and women that we can put away the charade now....Oprah, Obama, large swaths of the entertainment industry, sports...so instead of broad based special-treatment program, it's time to just root out the individual cases of bigotry on a case-by-case baiss with the **existing laws**.....but you say that and Libtards heads spin off. They're helpless.

You see...the thing is...white guys fighting for the rights of the perceived weaker races/gender makes them feel powerful and special. So when you tell them they are not needed anymore...that they can get off their high horses...well, they don't feel special anymore....they ARE the true bigots, in 99% of the cases...

Socs - Ok - may I ask what you are? But you are a male...and you DO think that women need you protection....therefore...YOU are the sexist bigot, who percieves women as weak and needing your protection.

After 2 years on the forum I've worked out when you shouldn't take Krellin too serious .....
1) When he makes a post on the forum
2) When he PMs you
3) When he plays a press game
Apart from that he's a very decent chap in need of a big NigeeBaby hug .... if he was made a Mod we'd have some fun on this site :-)

You realize, of course, Socrates, that our less enlightened brethren will argue there's nothing wrong with whatever you post, right?

Gods, how many times have I seen this movie.

Awww....pooor wittle nigee...if only you were half as noble as you think you are. It ironic that so many of your posts "in humor" contain the exact material that yo ucomplain about - jokes about race and gender....but oh....I see...you are the White KNight...you *care* about the lesser people around you, so when you abuse them for the purposes of your humor it's different, right?

oooo...in truth, your just another fucking Libtard hypocrite. It's why anybody with common sense - Libtard and Conservative alike - have no respect for you, my friend.

But I hold out hope for you.

"anybody with common sense - Libtard and Conservative alike"

A libtard with common sense? Impossible!

Yes Krellin, that is a ridiculous comment you have made about Libtards, you can't be taken seriously !!

Well...ILN...I'm trying to throw the poor dog a bone...by definition Libtards have no common sense. A true LibERAL has common sense (but is misguided in their understanding of reality). LibTARDS are both misguided and lack common sense.

I stand corrected.

I would like to take the opportunity to coin the phrases conservaturd and libturd.

@Socrates Dissatisfied

Thanks for bringing this up. This is an interesting topic.

Let's just assume that you're write, and that enough posts here contain misogynistic messages or misogynistic undertones.

I guess the first question that pops into my mind is, do you recognize this game as a male space?

Typically that's what men do when women aren't around (the one's that aren't into strip clubs), is they'll stand around and talk sports and yes, complain about women.

Usually, women that want to enter or reside in male spaces, either enjoy the macho atmosphere or are willing to tolerate it for it's other benefits.

Would you want to make this a gender-neutral space? I'll admit that I'd tend to resent that, but the truth is that I'm not the boss of this discussion board and wouldn't want to represent that this idea is devoid of merit. My preferences stem from the fact that in Western society, in this day and age, men's spaces are increasingly shrinking.

Women journalists have infiltrated men's locker rooms, women now serve in the military, women play college sports, a minority of men will bring their wife to a strip club... I'm not representing any of those things individually as bad things, but taken collectively it makes it increasingly difficult to find an area where a man can be a man.

A minority of people, typically feminists, like to represent normal healthy instinctive male behavior as morally inappropriate, although this view typically derives from a misunderstanding of male behavior or an inability to relate to male thinking.

While I wasn't close with Celtic Fox, I always had the impression of her that she was a guy's girl. She usually seemed comfortable here. I don't want to speak for her, but I remember that she was on staff for a while and never undertook major efforts to curtail male behavior, etc.

Is there something morally wrong with a big group of macho guys getting together and being men?

Al...maybe we should flip and run the forum as women would run it some day...male bashing and all...