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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
12 Jan 11 UTC
Congrats IKE
For winning my college football bowl pool. Six people paid their entry fee via PayPal, so $30 got donated to Kestas.
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TitanX7 (134 D)
11 Jan 11 UTC
Ok, I'm a little confused here and any help would be great.
Let's say I have an army in munich and it is ordered to give support. However, someone wants to cut the support and orders a move into munich. If I arrange a standoff by ordering a move into munich from another region does the support move still go through?
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Eggzavier (444 D)
11 Jan 11 UTC
GET SOME!!
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Stenrosen (1110 D)
11 Jan 11 UTC
BUG?
The egyptian player moves from Jerusalem to Syrian Sea in 'spring 6' with support from Tyre. Syrian Sea moves to Tyre. The attack is not succesfull though its two against one?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=43264
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
11 Jan 11 UTC
Mods Please Check your Email
I need two GFDT games paused ASAP
Thanks
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Inspector Rex (0 DX)
11 Jan 11 UTC
Emergency sitter
Needed due to evacuation from queensland floods- pls help- good plaits only
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
11 Jan 11 UTC
via land/convoy
if you're moving on a coast with an army and there is a fleet adjacent to the begin place and the target you can choose between move via land or via convoy, my question: is there any way it could be better to convoy un such a situation where you can choose??
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TrustyFriend (260 D)
11 Jan 11 UTC
Convoy problems!
Has anyone else been having problems with convoys? This is the second turn now where the site keeps giving me ¨Parameter 'toTerrID' set to invalid value '39'.¨ The value changes with the territories, but it won´t let me save any convoy moves. What do I do?!
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general (100 D)
11 Jan 11 UTC
Live games
I've joined a couple of live games and looking for more people...
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=46669
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=46668
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joey1 (198 D)
06 Jan 11 UTC
Wikileaks game
As an experiment in diplomacy and how a diplomatic society works without secrets, I propose a public press game.

gameID=46260
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joey1 (198 D)
11 Jan 11 UTC
Anyone interested in a public press game.
Looking for a couple of more people for a public press game. (hopefuly good communicators, so we have lots of public press). 24 hour turns.

gameID=46601
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principians (881 D)
10 Jan 11 UTC
unitarian universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism
what do you think?
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
08 Jan 11 UTC
The NFL Playoffs Are Upon Us! WHO YA GOT?
The Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Chiefs, Ravens, and Jets in the AFC!
The Falcons, Bears, Eagles, Seahawks, Saints, and Packers in the NFC!

12 Teams, 1 Dream...make your playoff picks, people! WHO WILL WIN SUPER BOWL XLV?
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Ebay (966 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Well finally the Saints go marching home. Teams rarely get so lucky two years in a row. Seahawks played a hell of a game.
Ebay (966 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Patriots will win it all again by the way.
killer135 (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Hey, Patriots are my second team
killer135 (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
yes, Ebay, I am sure going 14-2 and then winning the Super Bowl was all luck
Paulsalomon27 (731 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
how can you say its a sad mediocre day! a 7-9 team who people bitched about making the playoffs just beat the super bowl champions. THAT IS AWESOME!
damian (675 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
I have to say. I don't follow American football at all. However I think an upset is always a fantastic thing. Livens up the sport.
"they got lucky" = "i mad bro"
Spryboy (103 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
I told you guys the Seahawks would win..
Now they just got to win the Super Bowl
Spryboy (103 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Oh, by the way, I knew the hawks would win, so of course I would call them the Aints, the question in, can you give my team a horrible nickname?
killer135 (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Seahawks is already a horrible name. Hehe, I'm a small bird, you're not. Oh wait, I forgot it's hunting season. BANG
Spryboy (103 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Oh, and obiwan, I feel your pain as a Mets fan, too.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
JETS WIN! JESTS WIN! J-E-T-S JETS JETS JETS!

If the Niners can't win the Jets are my 2nd--as a Mets fan--and YES!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Spryboy! JETS! LET'S GO JETS!
killer135 (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Can't believe someone who used to play with the Cowboys could make something to win, instead of missing it. I was going for the Jets though
akilies (861 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
jets will lose at new england next week
killer135 (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
yes, they will. The Patriots will blind them with their awesomeness
Spryboy (103 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
My predictions have been perfect in the playoffs so far. Im so happy.
:)
killer135 (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Seahawks will lose next round, they can't get lucky twice
Favio (385 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
nope I think the Jets will win. Against each other they are 1 and 1. I think with this win against the Colts, the Jets will be able to overcome the Patriots and knock out the top seed!
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Oh dear GOD do I hope you're right, Favio...I CAN'T STAND TOM BRADY AND THE PATS!

GAH!

And the thing is I actually liked Brady until about 2007, the year they went 18-1 and were so incredibly cocky and arrogant and folsk start proclaiming them "The Greatest Team Ever!" and "The Greatest Dynasty Ever!" and calling Brady "The Greatest Quarterback Ever!"

ALL before they actually WON the SB!

I'm no Giants fan...but I think just about all non-Pats fans were ECSTATIC when the Giant Upset happened...

Smug Brady--remember him laughing at the Giants' defense? He was told that the Giants thought they'd win 20-17, and Brady laughed and said "We're only going to score 17 D? HAHAHAHA...OK..."

And Golden Boy Brady proceeded to get sacked all day and the Pats only scored 14!

MONTANA never lost the big game...and I'll take the '85 Bears or my '89 Niners or the '78 Steelers or the '66 Packers or the PERFECT, DIDN'T LOSE THAT BIG ONE '72 Dolphins over that "great" '07 Pats team.


Greatest team ever? SORRY--NOT WITHOUT A SB WIN YOU'RE NOT

Greatest dynasty ever? SORRY-3 SBs and 1 GIANT LOSS? I'll take those 4-WIN, 0 LOSSES 1970s Steelers and 1980s 49ers teams over the 2000s Patriots any day...maybe the 1960s Packers too.

Greatest QB ever? He's Top 10, and he might crack the Top 5 by the end of his career:

But JOE MONTANA is still the King and forever will be until someone else is 4-0 AT LEAST in the SB, and I'd rank Johnny Unitas, John Elway, Brett Favre--that is, Favre from 1993-2009, before he totally ran out of juice--Peyton Manning--he's done more with less, has the better arm, and is the better leader--and perhaps Roger Staubach or Otto Graham before I'll take Tom Brady.

Sorry, Pats fans--the game's greatest players and moments and teams have NOT come from New England in the past ten years, there were MANY great QBs and teams and dynasties far better beforehand.

Just to play devil's advocate, to RANK the Top 20 Best Teams of All-Time:

1. 1985 Bears
2. 1978 Steelers
3. 1989 49ers
4. 1972 Dolphins
5. 1966 Packers
6. 1992 Cowboys
7. 1984 49ers
8. 1998 Broncos
9. 1975 Steelers
10. 2004 Patriots
11. 1976 Raiders
12. 1991 Redskins
13. 1977 Cowboys
14. 1983 Raiders
15. 1986 Giants
16. 2000 Ravens
17. 1971 Cowboys
18. 1994 49ers
19. 1999 Rams
20. 1969 Chiefs
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
And yes, those are ALL Super Bowl winners, because frankly, I'm sorry:

There are SO MANY GREAT SUPER BOWL WINNERS that in my book I don't care if you went 18-1 and scored 30+ in all of your games...

If you DID NOT win teh SB, you don't crack the lsit, not with so many great champions...

For those counting, that's 3 SB teams on that list from the 49ers' and Cowboy's teams and 2 from the Steelers and Raiders.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jan 11 UTC
It was 1 off game. You can't expect someone to be perfect.

Brady is by far the best QB of all time. And your still missing the point the he won the big game 3 times.

And his win-loss ratio is better the Joe Montana, your so called King (Who takes second place). Face it, Tom is a better QB. So what if he lost a superbowl final. Where was Joe Montana for the 11 years his team couldn't even make it to the final?
I would choose a 3-1 superbowl record then a 3-0 over the same time span. Why? Because at least you were good enough to carry your team to the final.
none of this matters because Michael Vick is the best QB in football today
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jan 11 UTC
The two greatest dynastys of all time was New England 2001-2007 followed by the Miami 1970-1973 dynasty. Given my limited knowledge of football, I can't name another team that has been consistently a competitor for a few years running.
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jan 11 UTC
"none of this matters because Michael Vick is the best QB in football today"
I am glad someone has a sense of humor.
I only said that partially jokingly, Vick would be my pick for MVP
jobywalker (210 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
@Fasces359 -- The 49ers were quite a force at the end of the 80's including winning two superbowls in a row.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Your "limited knowledge of football," Fasces?

You are making judgments about the greatest of the greats with a limited knowledge?'

Isn't that like performing surgery with the extent of your medical knowledge being a PhD in House M.D.-ology? ;)

To begin with:

That "1 off game" was a SUPER BOWL, it wasn't like he had a bad day in a completely meaningless game, he had a bad day in a game that would have finished a perfect season and clinched a Super Bowl win four his team, the fourth of the decade for the Pats and, once again, its a game he was so cocky about that he laughed off the Giants when they predicted a 201-7 win, LAUGHING athe the NOTION that he would only score 17 D...when he ended up scoring LESS THAN THAT!

As for MONTANA, you asked what he did those other 11 years? Well, 1 year injured--same as Brady--and one year missed the playoffs--same as Brady--and the other years he made the playoffs and aws consistently one and often the best QB in the league in an era when Dan Marino, Warren Moon, John Elway, and Jim Kelly--all fellow Hall of Famers--were also playing.

He ALSO made the AFC Championship Game with the Chiefs in 1994, thus making the playoffs and nearly the Super Bowl with ANOTHER team, something BRADY has not done (so for those who argue "system QB" against Montana, remember that Brady, then, by that logic, would automatically lose out to Montana, as Montana had 3 coaches in his career, Walsh, Seifert, and whoever the hell was with KC when he was there, and Brady has only ever had one coach and one system.)

And Joe Montana was 4-0 in the Super Bowl over his span, NOT 3-0, thus he DOES beat out Brady even on the numbers, a perfect 4-0 to an imperfect 3-1!

Throw in the fact MONTANA has THREE Super Bowl MVPs--a feat that has NEVER been replicated--and I fail to see ANY validity in your argument as it has been presented.

Over those 11 years Montana was jsut as good and sometimes better than Brady, he has 4 wins and a perfect record to Tom's 3-1 record, he has 3 SB MVPs, a feat that has not been matched, and, again, was the best QB in a Golden Age of QBs, whereas today its basically Brady/Peyton, and you can toss in Vick if you REALLY want to stretch it, though Montana/Elway/Marino/Moon/Kelly seems to trump Peyton/Brady/Vick in terms of awe-power. As for win-loss ratio, its so close and Montana has the numbers where it matters most--namely, 4-0 and 3 SB MVPs to Tom's 3-1 and 2 SB MVPs--and MONTANA threw the game-winning TD pass in HIS Super Bowl appearances, passing and rushing for them in SB XVI, passing for it in a rout in SB XIX, the famous 92-YD drive for that John Taylor TD pass with 58 seconds left to win SB XXIII, and then whichever pass he threw first in his ROUT of Elway and his Broncos 55-10 in XXIV, not to mention he came to fame and starteed HIS dynasty with one of the msot famous, important, and impressive plays in NFL history, "The Catch" to beat Landry's Cowboys in the 1981 NFC Championship Game.

Compare THAT with Brady's SB wins coming off of VINATIERI'S LEG, ie, two SB-winning kicks and those famous--and VERY impressive--kicks in the blizzard in the 2001 AFC Divsional playoff against the Raiders AND the fact that where MONTANA'S legacy and dynasty began with one of the greatest touchdown passes of all-time, BRADY'S began with A FUMBLE THAT WAS NOT RULED AS SUCH IN A BLOWN CALL, THE TUCK RULE! (Come on, Pats fans, admit it, own up to it--as much as I hate them, the Raiders WERE cheated that day, that WAS a fumble and you all know it, and come on...Montana's legacy is defined by "The Catch" and Brady's moment is "The Tuck Rule," where most of the country thought he fumbled the ball? NOT really a compelling case for putting Brady over Montana, is it?)



Brady's all well and good as a Top 10 QB, but against Montana?

Any way you slice it, he just can't win--and I SINCERELY hope the J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets knock that cocky Golden Boy into the Foxborough frozen tundra next week! (Really, I liked Brady when he started, but he's just gotten this not-yet-deserved attitude that he's THE KING when, as I just showed, he's a great QB but is NOT the best ever, no matter how much he and New Englanders like to think he is...oh, and MONTANA enver taunted his opposing team the week before the Super Bowl and laughed at them and was already cocky about a win--before a loss. See, THAT sort of things bugs me, just a tad...)



And to cap it off...

As much as it's subjective...

Sorry--but if you think the Pats of 2001-2007 and the Dolphins of the early 1970s are the BEST dynasties of all-time...

There's no right or wrong answer--but even still...no. Not even close.

The 1960s Packers won numerous NFL Championship Games before the Super Bowl was invented and then won those AND the first two Super Bowls when those first came about, with some of the most legendary figures in NFL history, one of the greatest victories in NFL history in The Ice Bowl vs. the Dallas Cowboys--and it was COLDER in the Ice Bowl than it was in the Snow Bowl between the Pats and Raiders--and a coach so vital and legendary that the Super Bowl trophy, football's highest honor, is NAMED FOR HIM.
The 1970s Steelers won 4 Super Bowls in 6 years and have the most Hall of Famers of any dynasty in football history.
The 1980s 49ers won 4 Super Bowls in 9 years and had who many consider to be the Greatest Quarterback, Receiver, and Cornerback in NFL history in Montana, Jerry Rice, and Ronnie Lott, as well as owning the record for most points scored in a SB and biggest margin of victory in a SB (55 D and a margin of 45 in a 55-10 trouncing of the Broncos in SB XXIV.)
The 1990s Cowboys won 3 SBs in 4 years BEFORE the Patriots did that in the 2000s, had one of the greatest QB/HB/WR triple threats ever in Troy Aikman, all-time leading rusher Emmitt Smith, and Michael Irvin--all three now Hall of Famers--and did all of this with not one but two coaches at the helm...and a HELL of a lot of media scrutiny, as well as one of if not the biggest turnaround in NFL history by going from worst to first and winning the SB in 1992 with a team most rank in the Top 10 Greatest Ever.

The 2000s Patriots just do NOT top THAT list of previous dynasties, and the early 1970s Dolphins, while a great team and the 1972 team is simply legendary, also fall short.
jmeyersd (4240 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
i don't care who wins so long as it's not the pats, steelers, jets, colts, ravens, chiefs, eagles, seahawks, saints, falcons, or bears :)

but seriously, why is everyone picking phi over gb?
Spryboy (103 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
I have to say that Brady isnt even second on my list. Sure, Brady has more Super Bowl wins than Peyton Manning, but that is only because he has had better teams than Manning. Matter of fact, he is not even my third best, clearly that would go to Jimmy Clausen...
Fasces349 (0 DX)
09 Jan 11 UTC
"Throw in the fact MONTANA has THREE Super Bowl MVPs--a feat that has NEVER been replicated--and I fail to see ANY validity in your argument as it has been presented."
What happens when Brady ties that record this year?

MANNING SUCKS

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Serioussham (446 D)
05 Jan 11 UTC
Opinions about organ and tissue donations?
see inside.
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gjdip (1090 D)
10 Jan 11 UTC
Leagues registration delayed one week
I told several people that the leagues registrations would start last weekend but this being webDiplomacy I found myself compelled to lie. I will start the registrations NEXT weekend after the registrations for the Masters close because TrustMe said it would hurt his brain to have multiple registrations going simultaneously.
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stratagos (3269 D(S))
06 Jan 11 UTC
Vaccine Panic Fakeout
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/05/AR2011010507052.html
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
10 Jan 11 UTC
What is this?
In-game, there is a colored banner below the game info and above your country. It almost looks like the country SC banner, but it is different. In all of my games, this banner is different. Does anyone know what this is, or even what I'm talking about?
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McChazza (134 D)
10 Jan 11 UTC
new game - 10 mins.
Hi all

#46585 10 min phases. All welcome but (relative) newbies especially so...
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Putin33 (111 D)
03 Jan 11 UTC
Debate: Israel / Palestine
So we don't hijack a perfectly good thread on games and because I think this is a good discussion.
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youradhere (1345 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Ghost Rating Question
Are live games counted in the Ghost Rating system?
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Jimbozig (0 DX)
09 Jan 11 UTC
gb-37
Game was cancelled. In case anyone has any comments here is the place for them.
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McChazza (134 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
first visit
Hi all
Am I missing something on system requirements? When I set up a game or join a new game I just see a plain empty board with no icons, buttons, etc etc. Can't see any tech help/support on the site, so pointers would be appreciated. Using Firefox 3.6.13.
Thanks
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Spryboy (103 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Seahawks beat Aints
The thread for discussing the embarassing lost by the Aints (which I predicted). Let us all point and laugh at their failure.
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Crazyter (1335 D(G))
10 Jan 11 UTC
GFDT
Where is the 7th player? Several games have not started yet
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
New Game
500 buy in
anon
regular press
classic board
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EOG - Chris (43685)
See inside.
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peterwiggin (15158 D)
29 Dec 10 UTC
New Press WTA anon challenge game!
My games are winding down, and I'd like to start one good game. Bet negotiable, but I think 60 is a good number. Challenges will be issued soon.
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McChazza (134 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
new game
Am assuming this is the way we help ourselves to finding new players if we're new round here.
Just want to test out controls as have never played online. Not very experienced Diplomacy player, but can hopefully manage.
gameID=46515
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salamanda (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
How to differentiate the nationalities of the units
How do you tell which units belong to which Great Power? All fleets are grey; all armeis are green.
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salamanda (100 D)
09 Jan 11 UTC
Joining a locked game
Some games have a password, and I understand why. But if there's a game where a player has left, and I want to take over his NMR'd Power, how does one get in without the password?
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