Forum
A place to discuss topics/games with other webDiplomacy players.
Page 406 of 1419
FirstPreviousNextLast
Joverholt (100 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
F Sev move to ?
Can a fleet in Sevastopol move along the coast to Bulgaria or Constantinople? Or is it limited to movement into the black sea and Romania?
5 replies
Open
vamosrammstein (757 D(B))
19 Nov 09 UTC
Cars
So I just got my permit today, and I'm wondering what some of your favorite cars are. First cars? Absolutely terrible piece of crap cars? Any cars, but a story to go along with them is appreciated:]
32 replies
Open
doofman (201 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
bored so lets live game it
come and join ay
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15632
1 reply
Open
denis (864 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
NEED a SITTER FAST
just for the weekend
3 replies
Open
denis (864 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
Live Game come join
5 D 5minutes
7 replies
Open
superchunk (4890 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
Cmon girlies, need one more for a 5min phase live game
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15617
1 reply
Open
AK47 (116 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
New Guy
Greetings Fellow diplomats! I am a new guy looking to play some Diplomacy. Be Kind I'm not great at this game. I made two games to start me off here. They are called New Game Fast Turns and New Game Fast Turns-2. Please Join! I'm definitely Interested in meeting some people on this new site (I frequent another diplomacy site, and figure i should play some new people)
11 replies
Open
PrettyLadyShay (100 D)
10 Nov 09 UTC
Im bored lets talk alil
come lets just talk ^^
110 replies
Open
MrMirCannae (100 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
Join the live game
Cabbage Soup Why?

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15609
4 replies
Open
JPhelps84 (339 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
anyone up for a live game?
enough said...
33 replies
Open
maokt (547 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
all moves are ready, but the game does not continue
In game 14191 we have all placed our orders, and all have the green ticks to confirm this, but the game is still waiting for the time out before continuing. It's been doing this for quite a few turns by now. What can we do?
6 replies
Open
Red Squirrel (856 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
Live game tonight
gameID=15604

Join up
20 replies
Open
dave bishop (4694 D)
20 Nov 09 UTC
Better Live Game
5 min phases for a fast and furious game
4 replies
Open
Lord Alex (169 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
What do the different colored bars beneath people's names mean??
I played on php but i have never played on the new version, and i couldnt find this in the faq.
4 replies
Open
brokev03 (100 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
Live game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15601
0 replies
Open
StevenC. (1047 D(B))
19 Nov 09 UTC
Live game anyone?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15599
4 replies
Open
fetteper (1448 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
live game!
live anon game! ppsc 15 D
gameID=15597
4 replies
Open
PBSmassacre (0 DX)
19 Nov 09 UTC
A Live Game? Yes. Here it is, kind sir.
1 reply
Open
z76z76z76 (100 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
livegame
anyone?
1 reply
Open
lightbringer76 (100 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
A/T in a gunboat
How much cooperation would one generally expect between the two of them?
1 reply
Open
JECE (1248 D)
16 Nov 09 UTC
What percentage of games have a winner?
I was wondering what the probability was that in any given game you would win. I thought it was just one divided by seven, which gives you 14.285714 repeating %. But then I remembered that games can end in a draw. But I don't know what percentage of games end in a draw, so I couldn't advance further. Without this statistic, we can't say much more than that you have a less than 14% chance of winning.
29 replies
Open
jman777 (407 D)
12 Nov 09 UTC
Ankara Crescent
We'll be using the 1816 rule book, so make sure you read up because the rules changed quite a bit in the last 200 years.

I'll start us off by using the standard Dutch opening (munich to belgium).
132 replies
Open
Draugnar (0 DX)
19 Nov 09 UTC
All my games times reset...
Not a big deal except for a 10 day game that was about to run and suddenly we have to wait 10 days again.
1 reply
Open
rlumley (0 DX)
03 Nov 09 UTC
Birds, Bees, and the U.S. Government
I may not have time to reply (but I'll probably be interested in what you all have to say, so I'm sure I'll at least read your comments) but I figured I'd share this essay I just wrote for anyone who wants to read it.
Page 3 of 10
FirstPreviousNextLast
 
Draugnar (0 DX)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@Jamie

"I'm not sure about the USA, but here in the UK we have religious schools (both Catholic and Protestant) which are funded by the state. I am not a huge fan of them, but in terms of addressing your specific point, I hope this helps."

That would be veiwed as establishing a religion or religions by the state and would have the liberals screaming just as if the Federal government allowed only certain religions tohave the private schools (as you neglected to quote from me previously). By the way, if you are going to quote and respond, be sure to respond to the WHOLE train of thought, not just one little part...

"Surely, Draugnar, you're not suggesting that if private schools were banned, organised criminal gangs would start running private schools, disguised as legitimate restaurants, funeral parlours and laundries?"

No, but what would happen is kids of the super wealthy would be shipped off to boarding schools in other countries. Where there is the will and the means, the desired result still happens no matter how much government may try to stop it. Also, the only reason the Al Capones of the prohibition era could be the organized crime lords is because there was a demand. What I woul dsee happening is more "homeschooling" with some teachers choosing to officially leave the profession ebcasue they could be a "nanny" and make tons of money "homeschooling" the rich kids for those wealthy families who wanted their kids around and didn't want to ship them off to another country. You might even find underground classrooms and eventually schools if it went on long enough as the former teachers band together (organize) and form one of those illegal private schools out of site (and oversite) of the government. So, yeah, in a way, there could be a form of organized crime going on. It may not involve guns and booze, but would be organized, would involve lots of money, and would be criminal... and the kicker is that most of the political office holders with school age kids would be sending their kids to these underground classrooms or hiring the "nanny" that teaches the "homeschooled" kids.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@ rlumley: "I'll agree, but you're a fool if you think that alone can make up for it..."

I'm very glad you agree we spend too much on the military. I agree that this alone would not be enough, but it would be a start. I also think raising taxes for those individuals and businesses who can afford it would be a good idea. More should also be done to combat tax evasion so that we ensure people and firms who should be paying taxes are doing so.
Gtlblx (919 D)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@ rlumley: "Everything should be a market...If the government can run a low cost school, so can a private individual."

The primary target of a school shouldn't be low cost, but provide good quality education to everyone.
You say everything should be a market? Should there be just security and investigation companys instead of a police force?
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@Gtlblx - Don't be surprised if he says yes. If I recall correctly he also believes all roads should be private.
rlumley (0 DX)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@ Gtlblx: Ideally, yes, practically no. But we've seen that private schools are practical. There's nothing to suggest that my system wouldn't work bounds better than the current one.

The beauty of markets is that you get both. You get low cost education, like Wal Mart, and you get brand name things like Nike. Wal Mart's shoes aren't bad. But they're probably not as good as Nike.

And thanks for answering for me, and once again putting words in my mouth, Oct. I really appreciate it.
SteevoKun (588 D)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@DrOct

Actually, I do believe Medicare and Medicaid type programs (on the federal level) are unconstitutional. Unfortunately they already exist and so it's a moot point and I don't bother to complain about it; however, according to the Constitution these sorts of programs should really exist on the state level (read: I would support them on the state level, but just don't bother to debate it on the federal level cause it's a lost cause - our Constitution that is).
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@rlumley - you have said that you think roads should be private haven't you? If I'm confusing you with someone else I apologize, but otherwise I hardly think it's putting words in your mouth to tell someone what you've said in the past.
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@SteevoKun - Ok, well that's a reasonable position to take, I was just curious as to what you thought was different (turns out the answer is you don't!).
rlumley (0 DX)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@ Oct:

Roads are one of the few things that I think the government has a role in. I may have said that ideally, the government shouldn't do them, but it does a pretty good job with them. It's sad that the set of things that the government does a good job with is essentially limited to putting a slab of concrete on the ground, and fighting wars. But I digress.

Even if I actually held that view, it would have been demeaning and insulting for you to say something to the effect of "Don't be surprised - he's actually that crazy" without making any points whatsoever. I can speak for myself, and I don't need you to speak for me, regardless of my opinions.
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@rlumley - On a more positive note, I do think your education plan isn't quite so bad as it sounded on the surface before you fully fleshed it out. I still see a fair number of potential problems, with it, but since you seem to be getting increasingly exasperated about the direction the conversation has taken I'll wait for a separate thread sometime down the road to discuss that further, though it sounds like it'd be an interesting discussion.
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@rlumley - You are right, I was essentially saying "He's actually that crazy." That was somewhat rude and I am sorry.
rlumley (0 DX)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@ Oct

Apology accepted. But you may as well talk about education, since my original point is so well made no one is able to argue with it. :-)
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
Haha! You just keep thinking that...

I actually think people are more interested in talking about Education just because it's a discussion that hasn't happened here nearly so often. We've talked about Healthcare a million times, (with evidently no one changing their opinions at all) but primary education... that's not a topic that's come up nearly so much!
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@master warrior: you said "There was a man in Canada who had a brain tumor. He desperately needed an MRI, but the waiting list was 8 months and counting. Since he was not ok to travel, he went to his local vet clinic and got an MRI under the name 'Fido'."

I think perhaps an actual analysis of the two systems would be more interesting and useful than a single 'true' story. Try this link(which i haven't read, so you can take it to be supporting whichever side you want): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems
DrOct (219 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
@Master Warrior - Orathaic is absolutely right, statistics beat anecdotes (especially un-cited ones) every time in a discussion like this.

I'd also point out that it's just as easy to bring up hundreds of stories of people in the US healthcare system who have had horrible experiences (A guy who had to pick which finger to have reattached after a machine accident because his insurance company would only pay for one, or people dying of easily treatable conditions because they didn't have insurance and couldn't pay for regular doctors visits). The point is that a random story doesn't really tell you much about the system as a whole. All your story showed is that wherever this guy lived there weren't enough MRI machines. No one is arguing that Canada's health care system has no problems, or that there aren't any good things about the US system (Or at least I'm not arguing either of those points and I haven't heard anyone else do so), but a much larger comparison, involving data on things like health outcomes and cost is far more useful than a random story that you assure us is true.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
also, just for the line "health cannot be bought at thesupermarket" (around 13 minutes in)and some really impressive statistics watch this video. http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_shows_the_best_stats_you_ve_ever_seen.html
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
actually this one says more about the US, same guy different year:
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_reveals_new_insights_on_poverty.html
Well, as normal as "Harvey Milk" can sound. My bad.

That's a lie, the school is exclusive to students who are GLBT or confused about their sexual identity (i.e. people who think they might be GLB but aren't quite sure). Besides, they only say it's open to straight students because that would circumvent antisegregation laws.

So, basically, any kid who goes to a shitty school in the middle of the ghetto can claim he's gay, get into Harvey Milk, and suddenly he's in the high school equivalent of a country club.

It doesn't matter if universal healthcare is good or not. It's unconstitutional. If the libs can get an amendment, then I'll shut up. Until they pass that tedious process, universal healthcare must be stopped at all costs.
Pete U (293 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Bloody travel - you fly on a plane and miss all sorts of stuff...

@rlumley - thanks for clarifying your proposal on education - I've skimmed a lot of the rest, but would it be fair to assume that your views on health are along similar lines (i.e. the money follows the patient). If that's so then

1 - It doesn't prevent failing hospitals, poor health care, as these are short term outcomes that are unavoidable in this system. I'm not convinced that it drives standards up, as capitalism does what is best for capitalism, not for the people

2 - It requires all individuals involved to make good choices, consistently. And that surely doesn't happen now in consumer markets - there comes a point where cheap is crap, and actively bad for you (and in the long term it can be more expensive)
Pete U (293 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
And now I realise point 2 doesn't make any sense. I was trying to draw an analogy with resteraunts, and how McDs is a viable business, even though a wholly golden arches diet is bad for you.

I'm tired - I have a load of challenges to this kind of 'choice' driven agenda, but they all keep running into each other in my head. If I have time, I'll formulate them better before adding.

Otherwise I'll watch from thne sidelines for now, which is a shame because the debate is interesting
ottovanbis (150 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Necessary and Proper Clause, anyone? I don't really think the federal government is "too big," some people need to justify/ give examples of this.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
@ The_Master_Warrior: "It doesn't matter if universal healthcare is good or not. It's unconstitutional."

I don't give a shit about your consitition. I want to see policies which improve people's lives. Universal healthcare would improve people's lives. If you're saying that improving people's lives is unconstitutional, then frankly, the constitution be damned!

It always amazes me how some people in the USA worship The Constitution as though it was some kind of holy text
It is when it comes to government. And that's complete bullshit that it will improve people's lives. Sure, it will give them free healthcare, but their taxes would multiply. So, now you've got more unconstitutional government control and all you did was shift the problem into a different area. I don't know about you, but I don't want my hard-earned tax dollars paying for some illegal immigrant getting a free drive-thru murder (some call this "abortion") and then going into the next room to get some free "medical" marijuana. I want my hard-earned tax dollars paying for a KIA GI's family to get their life insurance. I want my tax dollars to pay for the military that keeps this great land safe.
John Galt (102 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
The Constitution is worshiped because it's a pretty neat document: it can be updated (i.e., modernized). The problem begins when the current state of the Constitution is held in higher regard than the ideal itself.

The_Master_Warrior, in the upper middle class, sure, I'd be paying higher taxes (as if I don't suffer enough living in Massachusetts) for poorer healthcare, but I don't really need the healthcare I currently have--the planned government one will suit my needs, since I'm fairly healthy. On the other hand, those who can't afford healthcare at all are those who are not taxed; thus, their lives will improve without any loss of value! This is the ideal state of things, at least. If this were any other country, and if the movement were lead by any other party than the Democrats, I could hope for the tiniest bit of success. Unfortunately, there is no hope that this will not be bungled beyond all hope.
Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
@Jamie - Worship it or not. Like it or not. They're both irrelevent. Our (mine, rlumley's, and TMW's) government was founded on the constitution and it is the framework by which the country runs. Without it, our government falls into anarchy (Sic would live that) and one of the few superpowers in the world would collapse. So we *must* abide by it as much as is reasonable to stay a viable nation of free people.

So, you can fuck up the UK with your communism all you want, but if you want to see communism in the US, you'll have to get enough people to agree in enough states to revise and ratify the Constitution so that it grants more power to the feds and less to the states. Considering the states have to ratify it, that isn't going to happen. So, it isn't going anywhere and you will not see what you want happen in the US. Stick to fucking up Europe and Canada, but "don't tread on [us]".
rlumley (0 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
"I don't give a shit about your consitition. I want to see policies which improve people's lives."

+1. I hate discussions of legality vs. morality.
John Galt (102 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Draugnar, the Constitution has not prevented Congress from harming the nation in years past. I make my case in two points: Patriot Act, DMCA.
Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
I agree JG. I was just saying Jamie's complaint about people worshipping it was irrelevent as it is the framework of our government and, despite the courts occassionally subverting it and it getting in the way on occassion, it isn't going to just go away altogether and allow a communistic "all men are created equal, therefore no man shall ever have more than another" society to take over.

Oh, and I think we will see the overturning of the DMCA soon enough. But it will take copyright reform to do so.
SteevoKun (588 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
Sorry for what seems like a stupid question, but I looked up the DMCA on Wikipedia and (granted I only read the first little snippet of an introduction) I was wondering what's bad about it?

This is a genuine question - for some reason I get the feeling it's supposed to be obvious and may or may not provoke a strong reaction, given the strong feelings on here about other things - so don't jump on me, lol.
Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
It stifles innovation by making it illegal to even develop software that could potentially be used to steal music. It also restricts the right of the consumer to make a previously legal backup of their digital media because the software that would be used to make that backup is illegal.

Page 3 of 10
FirstPreviousNextLast
 

283 replies
GoonerChris (100 D)
18 Nov 09 UTC
Internal Server Errors?
I'm getting lots of them at the moment, and tried to email webmaster about it but the email didn't get through. Is this just happening to me or is the server actually down?
19 replies
Open
denis (864 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
who is up for a live game?
orathiac? Le_Roi? Hibiskiss? Geofram?
14 replies
Open
Arhain (101 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
Strange Italy/Austria
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15568

Check this game for the weirdest Italy ever
10 replies
Open
denis (864 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
LIVE GAME!!!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15575
5 D 5 minutes
0 replies
Open
kbake (188 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
Two More Players Wanted
Two players wanted for "Honored Opponents" game. Password = diplomat.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15530
0 replies
Open
honkey magoo (162 D)
19 Nov 09 UTC
Live Game!
Live Anonymous 10 Point Game! Come Join!

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15572
1 reply
Open
Page 406 of 1419
FirstPreviousNextLast
Back to top