I vote in favor.

I vote in favor of ghug's proposal.

I vote aye

Sorry I had gotten busy with other things. I made some mistakes in my propsal and have corrected them.

I propose (for the queue) that Nomic Penalty Pointz (NPP's) be given to players who are not active for 24 hours. The amount given to said players is 10 NPP's. Players with NPP's may not win the game until all NPP's are removed. To remove a NPP players must either pass one rule or one amendment to get ride of one NPP or if over half the majority of Nomic Members deside to. They may vote to automatically take away X number of NPP's from that player.

Sorry guys, I slept in and have been gone since I woke up. I didnt really have a chance to defend my proposal at all. Someone brought up that we already have amendments on the queue, and so we dont need a proposal for that, but if you look at the rules, the queue does not mention anything about amendments, only rules. So those amendments actually shouldnt be on the queue.

Also, I vote aye on ghug's proposal.

Except we shouldnt be voting on ghug's proposal, because it shouldnt have been in the queue, right??

Proposal: There should be a President of Nomic. The President will be elected on a weekly basis, election to be held on Monday (GMT) in parallel with any other voting.

Initially, the President will have no additional powers or privileges, but additional rules can ascribe them to whoever is the sitting president by referencing simply "the president."

I vote aye.
I'm also running for President

(In the above, replace "should" with "will.")

I vote aye.

Squigs, it was in the queue. What'chu talkin 'bout?

I think that means it passes, next up is Atrum's Inactive Members Bill:
Inactive Members Bill
Due to the current state of inactivity among several Nomic Members, there have been issues passing perfectly reasonable bills, and keeping the game progressing as intended. As such, I am proposing the following:
If a player has not made a post in the last 24 hours, they are added to a list of inactive players.
When a player is in the inactive list, they do not count towards the total of players currently in the game. To cease being an inactive player, the player must simply state that they have returned from inactivity.
If a player has been inactive for 48 hours (i.e. has not made a post in the last 72 hours), they will be added to a ‘suspended’ players list.
When a player is suspended, they are treated under the same conditions as inactive, with the following change:
Instead of being able to state that they have returned, they must ask to re-enter the council floor, which will prompt an immediate vote from the active Nomic Members. This vote requires the normal simple majority to pass, and if passed, the player is immediately re-added to the active Nomic Members list, making them count towards the vote total, and allowing them full voting privileges.

Yea: Atrum, ghug
Nay:

Unless I'm wrong I belive semick's proposal must go to the queue and wait to be voted upon. Have I missuderstood?

I'm gonna put my Coalition Bill back on the queue:

Players can form coalitions. Coalitions are groups of players who can win together. The winning condition of a coalition is 1.5 times the sum of the winning conditions of the constituents rounded up to the nearest integer. Coalitions are allowed to add and remove players, disband, and make internal rules of governance. Players in coalitions maintain their individual votes unless otherwise dictated. All members of a potential coalition must consent to its creation and the addition of any future members must come with the consent of the added player. Any addition or removal of a player to or from a coalition must follow any rules the coalition has created to govern additions and removals. A player must forfeit all nomic points to his coalition upon joining, as well as any nomic points which might be gained while a member of said coalition. A coalition has the right to redistribute the points of the players upon a player's leaving of the coalition or the coalition's disbandment. No coalition may comprise more than half of the players in the game.

That's correct, Ezra.

Yea/Aye/Yes/In Favor of Atrum's proposal.

Yeah sorry, I should have said for the queue.

By the way, what is the status of the senate proposal?

Rules in Place:
1. No Dice Rolling
2. First player to accumulate "exactly" 500 nomic pointz wins
3. The winner can only win on a BST weekday
4. The current players are to be tracked.
5. All proposed new rules, proposed rule changes, or proposed rule deletions require a simple majority (more than half) of those playing, in order to pass, with the proposer automatically presumed to vote in favour unless they state otherwise.
6. Current Players are referred to as Nomic Members.
7. Game is not turn-based.
8. To be a Nomic Member, new players must have backing by at least one Nomic Member.
9. Each Nomic Member may only propose one rule change / amendment / deletion per hour.
10. Any rule, amendment, or deletion proposal that has not passed within 24 hours of being suggested becomes rejected automatically.
11. Only one rule proposal or amendment may be open for consideration at any one time. Once a rule proposal or amendment has been made, voting on that proposal or amendment must be concluded before any other proposal or amendment can be made. Furthermore, we are resolving open proposals or amendments by a queue, and ghug gets 10 Nomic Pointz.
12. Nomic Pointz can be accumulated through +1's on this thread.
13. All Nomic members whose username does not start with a capital letter gains 50 Nomic Pointz.
14. Rules can be queued, but each person is limited to 1 rule in the queue.

Pursuant to Rule #4: The Current Nomic Members are as follows (in order of Seniority): kasimax, Jamiet99uk, President Eden, Socrates Dissatisfied, ag7433, guak, smeck83, Atrum, erza willis, ghug, VashtaNeurotic, Squigs44.

Currently on the floor:
Atrum ():
Inactive Members Bill
Due to the current state of inactivity among several Nomic Members, there have been issues passing perfectly reasonable bills, and keeping the game progressing as intended. As such, I am proposing the following:
If a player has not made a post in the last 24 hours, they are added to a list of inactive players.
When a player is in the inactive list, they do not count towards the total of players currently in the game. To cease being an inactive player, the player must simply state that they have returned from inactivity.
If a player has been inactive for 48 hours (i.e. has not made a post in the last 72 hours), they will be added to a ‘suspended’ players list.
When a player is suspended, they are treated under the same conditions as inactive, with the following change:
Instead of being able to state that they have returned, they must ask to re-enter the council floor, which will prompt an immediate vote from the active Nomic Members. This vote requires the normal simple majority to pass, and if passed, the player is immediately re-added to the active Nomic Members list, making them count towards the vote total, and allowing them full voting privileges.

Yea: Atrum, ghug
Nay:

Queued proposals:
ezra: I propose that Nomic Penalty Pointz (NPP's) be given to players who are not active for 24 hours. The amount given to said players is 10 NPP's. Players with NPP's may not win the game until all NPP's are removed. To remove an NPP a player must either pass one rule or one amendment (each removing exactly one NPP). Alternatively if over half the majority of Nomic Members decide to, they may vote to automatically take away X number of NPP's from a player.

Aye

@ghug
Rule 14 states: Rules can be queued, but each person is limited to 1 rule in the queue.

There is no rule that discusses whether or not amendments can be queued. I assumed that meant that amendments could not be queued, but I guess it doesn't prevent it, so queueing amendments is still legal?? My proposal was just to make it explicitly legal to queue amendments, and also give us a way to make quick fixes. But you guys shot it down, so whatever.

Whoops, premature post.

Queued proposals:
ezra: I propose that Nomic Penalty Pointz (NPP's) be given to players who are not active for 24 hours. The amount given to said players is 10 NPP's. Players with NPP's may not win the game until all NPP's are removed. To remove an NPP a player must either pass one rule or one amendment (each removing exactly one NPP). Alternatively if over half the majority of Nomic Members decide to, they may vote to automatically take away X number of NPP's from a player.
Semck: There should be a President of Nomic. The President will be elected on a weekly basis, election to be held on Monday (GMT) in parallel with any other voting.

And Atrum's voting began at 6:30 PM PDT.

Also, ghug, you forgot to amend rule 10 when copying/pasting it, since it passed. We can do that next time though, just dont let us forget.

Oh shit, Squigs, rule 14 doesn't include amendments. Looks like we can't have amendments anymore and mine didn't pass. Atrum's voting also started at 3:13 PM.

Rescinding my proposal. I propose that amendments can be added to the rule queue.

I have a proposal that is sure to pass, but this could get interesting. Here is my proposal for the queue:

All those that vote "aye" on this proposal while it is active and has not yet passed receive 25 nomic pointz. All those that vote nay on this proposal lose all of their nomic pointz. All those that do not vote on this proposal miss out on this wonderful opportunity for pointz. By making this proposal, Squigs44 is automatically voting "aye". If this proposal passes, it also gives Squigs44 an additional 10 nomic pointz.

Make that:

Amendments and deletions may be added to the queue. A player may not make a new proposal if a proposal he has made is already in the queue.

Ghug, according to rule 9: Each Nomic Member may only propose one rule change / amendment / deletion per hour.

So rescinding your proposal does not allow you to make another proposal, you have to wait for the hour to end. These rules are getting the way quite a bit.

Rules getting in the way is all part of the game!

I vote YAY for whatever is currently on the floor.

I don't think I agree with that interpretation, Squigs. The net effect of a proposal plus rescinding is no proposal, so ghug has not proposed one this hour.

I'm due for a proposal to be put in queueueue.

Proposal: All subsequent proposals must hasten the progress to crown a winner through the addition or subtraction of nomic pointz