Also the role descriptions are wrong if the rule works as bo_sox interpreted it. For example in the TRACKER description, it says:

"Each night, you may choose to visit one person."

Surely, therefore, that ought to say "Each night, you MUST visit one person" ??

Jamiet, I'm guessing it's an oversight and they meant to say you can't no-lynch primarily.

Hipfiring is risky so I can sympathize with why you say not to shoot D1.

Exactly my point.

Thankfully ND will be here any minute to clarify.

I am here and I am reading the questions and seeing which ones TrPrado answered.

##Call GM - If the QM and Fab both gun Person X, I understand that the guns would be labeled Gun 1 and Gun 2 and Person X can choose which one to use. Will the QM and Fab know whether the gun they gifted was Gun 1 or Gun 2?

That would render the fabricator role useless, Balki.

Yea Balki if gun 1 works. then gun 2 doesnt.

Lol, I'd love to see the player who fired Gun #1, didn't die, and then pulled the trigger of Gun #2 anyway. Haha.

Thanks to TrPrado for answering many of the questions. I will clarify a few points, but a couple will have to be addressed by both of us (mods) once that is done we will update the game thread with an update.

1. The Fabricator and QM are “Item Givers” that means they give items to players. They are support roles. They function like the jailor in MX or angel in MXV which means they cannot target themselves.
2. @Balki: No way for them to know.
3. There are two cult leaders and anyone who is recruited is permanently tied to the cult leader who recruits them. If both cult leaders convert a player on the same night then we will adjudicate to give the last person who voted for that player’s recruitment control over the person they recruited. Think of a cult member as a cult leader’s minion. Like in actual “cults” the Cult Leader(s) possess all of the actual power in the organization.
4. MUST ACT has always been a written (unwritten) provision in these games with the DAY phase regarding voting. In the past you had to vote or you were modkilled/replaced. In this specific game (MXVI) there is a need for a MUST ACT during the night phase. MUST ACT, like on other websites, requires power roles to preform their role’s night action. This keeps people playing for their win condition which in this game is fluid because of the CULT and MASONS.
5. I see no reason for why the ENFORCER NINJA, STALKER, TRACKER, MASONS/CULT cannot perform their night actions on a nightly basis. I do see a concern about the Vigilante and Quartermaster/Fabricator so I will revisit this with a post in the game thread before the launch that clarifies these roles and their relation to MUST ACT further.

It certainly would not render Fab useless. This only comes into play in the unlikely event that a person receives the same item from both gifters. Then the person who received both would have to say so, and the QM would have to claim his role in order to tell the recipient which gift is fake and which is real. Only if the recipient believed the claim could he act on that information.

@ ND: "In this specific game (MXVI) there is a need for a MUST ACT during the night phase. MUST ACT, like on other websites, requires power roles to preform their role’s night action."

Just to make completely clear on this: Are you saying that the Vigilante *must* use his night kills straight away, on N1 and on N2, even though on the first night he may still be deciding who his target(s) might be?

I really hope I get fabricator. (evil laughter)

@Jamiet: That is something that I will have to clarify further once TrPrado becomes available. It will require a modification to the official role and or special rules. Thus, it needs to be done as an update in the game thread before the game begins.

@Balki: The Fab and QM aren't labeling guns, vests, etc when they give them out. We, the mods, label them for you if you receive two of the same thing. Does that make sense?

Ok ND thanks.

Regarding the 51% majority rule. It makes sense because we are allowing one Cult Leader not to vote and by extension we are allowing a minority of masons not to vote. This is done to prevent the masons or cult from being wiped out on a single night.

So the two cult leaders talk in a qt then? And one can opt out of conversion to fulfil 51% rule. So if a cult leader dies do only cult he recruited die and those recruited by other are spared. It makes sense now just making sure your not saying cult can convert cult to 2 different cult sides

The Cult can only convert one person each night. The Cult Leaders will be able to discuss in a private QT. One can choose not to vote each night, but one needs to vote.

Perfect! thank you ND and TrPrado for a joyfully complex and unique experience. This will require even the most veteran of players to adapt and change style. Lurking is a disaster in this setup.

##CallGM: if both cult leaders die (but not by masons) can the cult still recruit?

question, is Enforcer Ninja's "kill" the same as mafia's voted "kill' ? or do they get an extra "kill"? If its not, whats the purpose of Ninja other than being a pain for tracker/stalker ?

@Delarosa: The Enforcer Ninja makes the kill. It's the same. The Mafia don't get two night kills. A big part of the role is that it can't be tracked or converted.

@Vashta: That question may need a bit more clarification. TrPrado and I will sidebar and get back with you or update the game thread if it requires a update to the role/special rules.

in terms of GM'ing this game, all I can say is "may the force be with you"

If you dont mind my asking what is the standard system for determining roles? is it chosen at random dice rolling or by the GMs to optimize play quality?

Pretty much always random. It isn't fair any other way.

As I can see this causing potential confusion, I already know the answer but:

##Call GM: Both Cult Leaders are on the same team, they are not totally separate cults, right?

Looking forward to this. Reverse Mafia is a blast.

Correct HR