Are all those shots done discretely ? or just those during the night ? same question goes to gun given by QM. Can QM keep all his stuff to himself ? Will the receiver know who handed him stuff ?

I can answer the second part of that - when you are given a gun (or other equipment) you are *not* told the identity of the person who gave it to you.

The person being killed *is* told who killed them - but since they are now dead they cannot share this information...

Also could people stop writing C*nt instead of "Cult" as you are bothering my obscenity filters.

All shots taken, night and day, are discrete, only the person firing, the GM's, and the people who in the God QT/who have seen the Info QT will know who took the shots. The only exception to this is with the shot taken by the Fabricator's gun, which kills the shooter and will be stated as such. QM and Fabricator give items at their discretion. The person receiving an item will not be informed who gives them anything or whether or not their item is fake.

In EM the vig fails to kill if visited. This is clearly a different version of the vig.

Does Vagilante pass through your filters though?

Regarding the MUST ACT rule: "Failing to perform a night action or casting a vote results in a ‘modkill’ or ‘replacement’."

If someone is replaced for breaking the MUST ACT rule, won't the rest of the players in the game essentially know what the replaced player's role is, or at the very least have it narrowed down to a couple of possibilities?

Can the MUST ACT rule be clarified in more detail?

so, can QM keep and use his own items ?

Cult Strategy: get non cult leader lynched. any cult member would gladly draw attention to themself for cult leader to survive. D3 is a tipping point if no cult have died yet. Cult cares not about Mafia nor Town but can play sacrificially: fake claims even because as long as cult leader survives the cult can win.

Mafia: In this setup claiming to be Vanilla Mafia is fine. Any vanilla mafia should have no problem dying. Also vanilla mafia fishing for town Prs and cult is the goal. the challenge is figuring out in this setup whom actually dares to lead. Unlike last game with HR-OB-VEC-JAMIE there wont be a "clear". This game will be much more chaotic; bang bang point click and shoot free for all.

No delarosa. neither fab nor Qm can keep their own items. they can say ##give item to no one. which fulfils must act. Fab can give a maf teamate a fake gun. its pretty stupid but not illegal.

Im assuming MUST ACT is fulfilled by even saying ##Vote no one or ##give item to no one

Can we agree to let the GMs answer game mechanic questions to avoid confusion?

“All CULT LEADERS and the MEMBERS they recruited will visit the player target. If a CULT LEADER does not vote then they (and any members they recruited) will not visit the player target.”
“If the masons target a cult leader then the cult leader and every member they recruited DIES.”
There are 2 CULT LEADER roles correct? Are all cult members tracked based on which CULT LEADER voted for them to be recruited?

I finally just realized that Traitors dont count towards a Mafia majority victory; read qt, nor do they kill anyone at night. the only way traitors can win is when every cult and town is dead. interesting.

Understood OB.

so wait, 2 CULT LEADER, each with their own separate minions ? and only CULT leaders gets to vote, so How do you reach a 51% agreement ?

I'll answer when I get home in about an hour

"MUST ACT.... During the night phase, each team (town, mafia, cult) must perform their night actions."

Does this mean that the Vigilante *must* attempt to kill someone on the first night?

(I mean, like, instead of waiting to learn more as the game develops)

vig can choose no one but its stupid. kill ppl

@ brainbomb - presuming the game will last more than one day, why is it "stupid" to hold your kills for days beyond the first?

Must act means that everyone must act. You can't do nothing.

So, bo_sox, the Vigilante MUST use his kills straight away?

no its not that its stupid to hold kills. obviously people do; but its stupid in the sense vig has 4 chances to die or be converted right away.
1. mafia lynches vig. since vig needs to claim why would maf care they need vig to die to fulfil win condition. claim wont save vig. doesnt count as mislynch.
2. vig accidentally converted to mason by town.
3. vig converted by cult.
4. vig killed at night by Mafia.

hence why vig really should shoot d1.

Unless the GMs amend their own rule, yes, Jamiet.

They'd better, because that's a really, really stupid rule.

All actions other than:

(a) voting, and
(b) making two posts during the day phase

should be at the discretion of the PR. Having a rule that says PRs *must* use their power in every available phase is daft.

If they gave him more shots, it wouldn't be stupid.