@ Brainbomb - I think you're mis-reading the mason rules. If a Mason visits a Cult Leader, the Cult Leader dies, not the Mason.

I'm not sure I'm smart enough to play this one...there are a LOT of moving parts.

Cross your fingers the vig clears it out for us early.

Well this is certainly a setup

Fabricator is almost kind of mean to do to all the new players. bet you one of our newcomers kicks the bucket in that manner.

Looks like a really interesting set up, thanks for setting this up. I'm looking forward to playing.

I quickly read the set-up and understand some of it. I'm sure this will work out just fine :)

abit confusing at first, but sounds super interesting, can't wait to try it out ))

@BB, Jamiet: I disagree with Town referring to Mafia as Scum.

My impression is that, since we are all part of the Syndicate and we know it, the standard claim is 'Traitor'. Town is therefore Scum..

"Culting is done by a majority vote in the CULT QT. The Cult begins the game with two CULT LEADERS. The CULT LEADERS must agree on the player target for the night phase. The voting threshold must be 51% or greater. That means at least one CULT LEADER must have a vote on a player target."

But if the voting threshold is 51%, i.e. at least 51% of the votes must be cast, and there are two Cult Leaders, how does that imply only 1 must vote? 1 out of 2 is 50%, which is less than 51%. Perhaps I misunderstand the term 'voting threshold'?

If there are two Cult Leaders, and one of them votes for a particular target, and the other one does not vote at all, then that target has been voted for in 100% of the votes that were cast.

That makes sense, thanks.

Jamiet is correct

when will we receive our roles ?

It's usually an hour prior to game start (11pm GMT, 6pm EST)

i guess it's just my personal preference to keep these games "town vs. mafia" and not complicate things

Some questions:
1. Do the tracker, quartermaster, and vigilante have access to the Mason QT?
2. Do the above know the identity of the other mason power roles and masons?
3. Do the masons know the identity of the town power roles?
4. Do the "mafia" know the identity of the traitors?

It also talks about masons losing their access to the QT if converted and stuff like that. How will that work? And won't a converted mason, for example, just be able to tell his new team, "hey, person X, Y, and Z are masons"?


Re: standard voting: I don't think we really "agreed" on anything. We talked a lot about it, but I still think it's dumb to apply a standardized scoring system to an entirely situational, case-by-case game. Every setup is unique, every game unfolds uniquely, and sometimes a team can win just because a PR got lucky... or because a PR got super unlucky. Trying to assign points to these games is dumb when you can lose through no fault of your own or win via the same method.

If it's the same as normal reverse mafia then:
1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No

ND/Prado will have to confirm though.

this would be broken if any of the answers to those questions were "yes"

how much Day/Night cycle does a normal game goes ?

Assuming an average of 1 player does every day and night and the game continues until 1 remains, we would require 9 cycles to reach a conclusion.

I presume it will be faster in practice due to the roles and not playing on until there's a single person left (as some side will likely have won before that).

*does=dies

so, as the turns goes on, Mason and Cunts, i mean cults will just get stronger by eliminating some and visiting others. scary

Chaqa: meme is correct with his answers to those first four questions. Regarding converted masons telling cultists who they have, that's actually why we made it to where cult can't convert anyone on the night after they convert a mason.

I hope I get cunted N1

If you're really lucky, they'll make you Cunt Leader.

As long as I dont get cunted as the Vagilante

speaking of Vigilante, does he have unlimited bullets ? Also hypothetically, by the 2nd cycle, 8 people could be dead, IF Vigilante shoot 3times, guns from QM and Fabricator kills 2, day/night cycle kills another 2, Mason choosing the Cunt Leader thus kill cunt minions (not counting minions cause first night).

Yes it is highly unlikely, but still, statistics ))

Delarosa's question is a good one. The way the rule has been written, the Vigilante can kill 1 person per day and 2 people per night, and then again on day 2, night 2, etc....