Fuck it, I am FUCKING DONE drawing on CD's...ain't gonna fucking happen. All you guys want to try to explain your position away when you KNOW good a well that your position was aided by the CD.

I don't do gunboats much, so i havae no advice

thats whay i siad. It would have taken a few extra turns once i moved to italy, but france was nowhere near the stalmate line. Italy was overextended in france, he wasnt goign to attack me until austria was well on the way to death.
so, it would have taken a bit longer, but i owuld still have gotten through.

Ok FD

MM, I dont know hthat, I dont care enough about an online game to make a bunch of p0eople think im an idiot. I seriously dont think that CD benefitted me as much as anyone else.

Honestly, achilles, I have no idea how much it benefited you - I still would have preferred to draw. But that wasn't your vote, and your vote is your vote.

You don't care enough about an "online game." C'mon dude, don't try to pull that crap now. You're one of the most active members in here. Just because you were caught trying to rationalize away your bullshit play, don't now try to diminish the importance of the game to you. I look like an idiot? You're the one actually trying to claim that you didn't benefit, as Turkey, from a 1903 Italian CD.

You have no case, your only play is to say, "well...I don't care..." I expected more from you.

thank you capn platypus. I normally draw in the case of a CD, but i feel i was doing good otherwise. I understand your opinioin on that game as well, but thanks for not yelling at me for no reason at least.

I saw no units but turkeys In Italian home sc....

You are an idiot. I care about the game. just not enough to make people think I am a terrible person. also, you keep on saying an italian CD, and you forget to mention that the italian happened to be suiciding agasint france. which had no influence on all of the east.

How am I a "terrible person" for demanding that you NOT make bullshit rationalizations? Italy's opening strategy are yet another erroneous attempt at rationalization. Call me whatever you want Achillies, you're the one trying to claim the obvious isn't so. And I am the idiot huh?

I said " I care about the game. just not enough to make people think >I< am a terrible person"

If people think I am "terrible person" for asking you to come clean, and stop with the lame ass rationalizations about why you didn't draw, then so be it. I am a very good person, I just am SHOCKED that you, of all people, are really trying to make anyone reading this that you DIDN'T benefit from Italy's CD. You tried to say that, also that France benefited more, and that you play "amazing" and "were just better." You're digging a huge logical hole, but then acting all superior while you do it. PATHETIC!

READ MY POSTS! GODDAMNIT.
I SAID I WAS A TERRIBLE PERSON! PAY FREAKING ATTENTION.

Achillies the Greeks should stab you in the heel :p

I have nothing against you, i dont think you are a bad person. for all i know, you are conmpletely different from this. and, "this" isnt that bad either.

Although that was what you wrote, the implication was that I was the terrible person of whom you spoke.

Yeah tyran... the trojans beat them to it ;)

I didnt imply anything agaisnt you MM. I meant what i wrote. i dont write things hoping people think other things, why would i? if i am as stupid as you seem to think i am, then why wouldnt i just be as straightforward with my opinions because i think im right at everything?

Wasn't Achillies Trojan?

No... achillies was Greek, havent you seen the movie troy?

If not I apologize that high school sophomores have a rudimentary understanding of Greek literature at Best lol

Ive seen it but it's been a while

hm.. i love the greek history... but i forgive you ;)

I don't think you're stupid, not in the least. I respect you. You are a very good player, and a very active member of this community. But, that is why I am was SHOCKED to see that it was YOU that didn't draw, and then, that you've tried so many different (lame ass IMO) excuses as to why you didn't need to. I cannot help but think that YOU would have been ticked off if it were someone else taking advantage of the Italian CD. No excuse you can offer is sufficient.

Bitchigan Man.

Lol I'm more for roman history but I like Greek history and mythology as well. It's just been much to long since I've read a nonfiction book...

I may have been ticked off, but i swear to god, i dont believe it was italys CD that gave me the win.

I wish Zmaj had a better name so we can change it :P

+ 1 to bitchigan man