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Finished: 01 PM Mon 17 Dec 12 UTC
No Secrets...
3 days /phase
Pot: 350 D - Spring, 1910, Finished
Classic, Public messaging only, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
1 excused missed turn
Game drawn
21 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Other than TUN, what should I disband?
21 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Y u doing that Italy :(
21 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: For fun, I owe nothing to anyone but France. You had your chances in the earlier parts of the game if you wanted my help turn that frown upside down brew ;-)
21 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Oops. I thought I had fixed up all my orders. Sorry Russia.
21 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Nice cover, second straight year he's had to make one....
22 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Turkey, I would still prefer not to fight you, if you're at all interested in cooperation.

Italy, I would keep the North Sea, that's the only one your sure to survive with.
22 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Keep watching Ancient Aliens, Italy.
22 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Sorry France, but I'm sticking to my commitment, I'm happy with a four way draw.
22 Nov 12 UTC Autumn, 1907: Turkey, alright, that's understandable.
25 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: France - what would you have me do?
25 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Well, I'll get you into Edi this year, it's just a question of Spring or Fall.
27 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Actually Italy, could you move to Norwegian this Spring?
27 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: yeah brew
27 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Turkey! Move Black back into Con? Thanks. Also, 4 way draw? With whom?

Italy! Not solely my fault, take some of the blame, yah?

France, Stay strong!
27 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Killer move France.

As usual, let me know if you'll have me move to EDI or prefer something different.
28 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: I do believe you've made a mistake my Turkish friend.

Italy, yeah I'll support you into Edi.

Russia, you'll lose some ground in the South but I think we definitely have the strength between us to defeat Turkey.
28 Nov 12 UTC Spring, 1908: Yah, knew it was coming, not a big deal just a time waster since there is no way Turkey can solo this.

If Turkey wants to waste time though, thats fine I guess
03 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I'm sorry my Italian friend, but it just wasn't worth while to keep moving you around :( I did enjoy being your ally, though your determination to piss off every other player was a bit inconvenient :) I'll be interested to see who you are.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: lol, well, thanks. I don't mind. I didn't really like this game that much but the end there was fun.

i'm interested to see who everyone is! Good luck France, I'll watch the moves closely here on out.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I don't see how I'm wasting time since you two aren't going to draw until you take out Germany. I'll happily draw when you're ready.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: @Turkey - I'll be ready for a draw, also, once Italy and England are gone.

- Kaiser Bun III
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany, I don't mean that I don't want you in on the draw, it just looks like Russia and France have other plans.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Who said anything about a draw?
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: France is trying to solo! Russia, will you forgive my recent transgression considering that no harm was done? It's true I can't solo this game, if only because France would beat me to it. Let me know.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: LOL. This si why I will find it fun to watch the moves going forward.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: I hear Iceland is a nice place.
04 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Russia, what I would like to do is continue to fight Germany and Turkey, I'd rather see one of us win than a three way draw, let me know how you feel.
06 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: @Turkey, seriously bro? haha. No biggie, I know I can't win, I just like to ruin alliances. Anyway, yah its fine. Stop attacking me and we're cool. This means leaving the Black Sea, and Armenia.

@France, thats nice, but at this point i'm not even considering it, seeing as you'd get the solo faster than I would, and i'm not to keen on that :P
07 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: @Russian Bear - I can help stall a French solo, but I may need some help... ;-)
07 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Germany, I can't necessarily see a French solo happening, but even if I wanted to help how could I?
07 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: @Russia - you could support my units, I could help you fight France, and Turkey can keep fighting France. France will see that a solo would not be possible, and we'll finish this super long game with a four way draw.

Whaddya think?

- Kaiser Bun III
07 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: If Russia does not want to both try for the win then I won't. There is no need to make a three way draw into a four way draw.Sorry Germany.
07 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: Also, its only 1908, that's not too long of a game.
07 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1908: With 3 day phase though...this started in September O_o
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Nah, i'd rather end it honestly. I'm looking forward to starting my diplo break soon!
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: @Russian Bear - you can click "Draw", and suggest to France to do the same. Then, we can all start Christmas shopping.
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: I could, but I don't think he'd listen to me. Go figure.
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: If I cannot fight for the win, I will at least fight for the three way draw. Russia, I believe this game will be over sooner if you help me eliminate Germany. At the very least I would ask that you do not hinder me eliminating Germany.
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: France, don't be silly why would I help Germany? Have I not been attacking him for the past few years? If anything you're the one helping him by not cutting the support in Munich/Kiel when it's obvious he's just going to support hold Berlin >_>.
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: And... yah, lets keep Norwegian and North Sea DMZ'd. I'd rather not fight you and have this game take another 3 months. Lets just get the nice quiet 3 way draw :P I'd be happy to bounce you in North Sea!
09 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Turkey, same goes to you. Please remove the fleet in Black Sea and we can work toward peace! :)
10 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Sure we can bounce in the North Sea
10 Dec 12 UTC Spring, 1909: Turkey -_- what are you doing.

You need that fleet in the black sea to support your stalemate in the Med. You can't hold it with 3 fleets to France's 5. And there was no way you were getting Tunis back at that point, just retreat your fleets before you're forced to disband one. A mistake in hindsight, I should have moved to Warsaw not STP :/ Oh wells.

France, unfortunately I got your North Sea message a bit late, still, I specifically asked for Norwegian sea to remain a dmz. Why are you in there if not to attack me?
10 Dec 12 UTC Autumn, 1909: Small hope that a Solo may still be possible, but I think I'll give up on that, to my great disappointment. I'll be supporting Sweden to Denmark.
14 Dec 12 UTC Well. I'm happy to draw now, Mr Frenchie? Its been a good game, thanks for following through on the support.
14 Dec 12 UTC Draw draw draw. Oh hello I'm Turkey, please don't chicken out of the draw, we could all use some gravy.
14 Dec 12 UTC Sorry.
15 Dec 12 UTC Well this is a dilemma. I do not like drawing when I have not hit a stalemate. At this point victory is entirely possible but you want me to vote for defeat. So now I have to decide whether to waste my time pursuing victory, with so little a chance of success or simply accept failure.
15 Dec 12 UTC Think on it this way, would you rather accept defeat quickly and save time, or dedicate a lot more time just to face the same defeat? :/

I hope you'll draw.
15 Dec 12 UTC If you two are not interested in playing the long three person balance-of-power endgame to determine a true winner then I guess I won't bother...

Start Backward Open large map Forward End

France
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 117 D
13 supply-centers, 13 units
Russia
WarLegend (673 D)
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 117 D
12 supply-centers, 12 units
Turkey
Drawn. Bet: 50 D, won: 117 D
9 supply-centers, 9 units
England
Akenzua (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Italy
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Germany
CrazyCanuck (100 D)
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Austria
Defeated. Bet: 50 D
Civil Disorders
Akenzua (100 D)England (Autumn, 1908) with 0 centres.
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