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Geofram (130 D(B))
23 Nov 09 UTC
Live Game Issues.
I'm sure this belongs in the other thread, but it is gone off the front page and the link is gone and it's late for me to be awake!
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Rule Britannia (737 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
live game .(gunboat)
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The Czech (39715 D(S))
23 Nov 09 UTC
Error? Diplomacy Unlimited
If Germany was banned AND the adjudication says he left, how did he get to submit orders? I canged my orders predicated on the fact that he WAS banned AND no one had taken over his position. BOTH seem to be the case so again I ask, how did he get to submit orders?
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Rule Britannia (737 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
live game 2 night.(gunboat)
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gilgatex (100 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
Two more needed to test a new variant
The variant is Migraine, but I've adapted it to have a futuristic twist.

http://goondip.com/board.php?gameID=93 (New registration required).
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fetteper (1448 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
questions about strange alliances.
,,,
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Lord Alex (169 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
Need a replacement for a Multi Accounter: Russia
The game is "Practise Game-2"
Join in for Former Czar Stubbs. An please ally with France :)

(PS: How do I get the Game Id?)
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tilMletokill (100 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
Live game ANON WTA 5 min
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BrightEyes (1030 D)
22 Nov 09 UTC
For reals
judas and duzenko are at it again. After declaring that they won't play anon games together, they formed an alliance in a new game that I happened to be involved in. I was eliminated, due to not being able to communicate with Germany(judas) or Russia(duzenko). What the hell?
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Sendler (418 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
No in-game messaging but not Anonymous
If I play those are you allowed to communicate per Email, IM?
I dont quite get them.
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jireland20 (0 DX)
23 Nov 09 UTC
1 spot four minutes left for joining
if you think your good join....http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15803
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jireland20 (0 DX)
23 Nov 09 UTC
1 spot left live game
Come playhttp://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15803
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jireland20 (0 DX)
23 Nov 09 UTC
Just need two more for live game
Come play two spots left...http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15803
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jireland20 (0 DX)
23 Nov 09 UTC
Few more for live game
come play it will fill up soonhttp://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=15803
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GoonerChris (100 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
A game which proceeds at accelerated pace
gameID=15797

Just need 2 more people to get it started.
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djbent (2572 D(S))
17 Nov 09 UTC
School of War - Admissions Building,Winter Session 2009
New players interested in improving their skills and more experienced players interested in helping others improve, please see within.
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GoonerChris (100 D)
23 Nov 09 UTC
A game in which proceedings move quickly
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
03 Nov 09 UTC
Takin' it outside ;-)
As requested, though I don't think I was the target. Still it was a funny post so I thought I'd respond.
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ottovanbis (150 DX)
04 Nov 09 UTC
you're n pretty much "taking the word" "of God aren't you??
Jacob (2466 D)
04 Nov 09 UTC
@obiwan
You've illustrated an important point in translation. A word-for-word approach often misses the mark by a mile. Also, language is a dynamic thing anyway. That's why there will always be a need for additional translations. The thing to remember though is that we DO have the manuscripts in their original language. And we have them in an embarrassingly large quantity found in many many different areas of the world. And it is incredible the degree to which they match. Where they don't match you can tell in the vast majority of cases exactly what happened.

So, are there translations that aren't so great? Yes. The King James Version is a good example of a less than stellar translation. But any translation done today always goes from the original languages into the target language. Your argument doesn't reveal corruption of the Bible as much as it just points out that there are some translations that aren't as good as others. (p.s. - that's why it's a pretty good idea to learn Greek and Hebrew if you're going to be a pastor)

On to your second point. By this I assume you mean the choice of which books to include as canonical? It's popular to say that the church just got together and drew straws to decide which books to include (obviously I'm exaggerating, but you'd think that's how it happened to hear people talk). In reality there were criteria that were applied to the books (such as authorship by an apostle or close associate of an apostle) and some of the books that are in the Bible almost didn't make it in because of questions surrounding authorship. Hebrews is a good example of this. When you look at the non-canonical books there is such a clear difference in terms of doctrine, length of time after the fact that they were written, and obvious fraud with regard to authorship it is really rather clear why they should be rejected.

Just because something is old doesn't mean it s corrupted. I don't think you'd be so quick to say it was corrupted if you knew anything about the way in which they went about copying manuscripts. Hebrew scribes had to count each and every LETTER as part of their process to ensure that they copied everything correctly.

As to your unfounded claims of corruption in the NT. What are you suggesting was twisted? You don't want the Bible to be true because if it were true then you would be under God's authority which is something you don't want. I can understand why that would be, but you are doing yourself a disservice by dismissing the Bible without really examining it.
Jacob (2466 D)
04 Nov 09 UTC
Hope I didn't offend you - I'm feeling a bit feisty today... =)
orathaic (1009 D(B))
04 Nov 09 UTC
"Yes Religious people are bound to flock back like subservient sheep to the manipulations of more mentally powerful individuals who invented God in a system"

I know i contributed some remarks to that conversation. But what i actually said was people are great at coming up with good/successful ideas, and they will return to the idea of a God if it proves useful.

They have been many different religions in different cultures which have believed that some supernatural entity controled the wather, or sunrise or whatever. Perhaps only the Judeo-Christian-Islamic-Baha'i traditions (each being influenced by the previous monotheism) believe in a single God.

But i never suggested that it was some big conspiracy of high priests/bishops who were collaborating to mislead the general populance, I don't think that is evident.

I also don't know that there is evidence enough to support my idea that people will naturally fall into believing in somthing. (well they will definitely beleive something) The way ideas spread is an interesting topic, and I imagine that some viral messages (like annoying chain letters) spread themselves around the world and continue being talked about without having any real usefullness.

Religion is an idea which like a chain letter self-perpetuates. It may also be something which many followers truely embrace, and this dedication means it has a greater chance of being taught to the next generation.

I would go further and suggest that a religion which has useful morale values regarding work, social obediance and helping the weak/infirm will infact help propogate a successful society, and thus a 'good' idea or useful religion will shape it's society and spread... much as some economic/governmental theories which are successful will be taken on by groups. (like Communism, Capitalism or Socialism...)
ottovanbis (150 DX)
04 Nov 09 UTC
thank you orthaic, religion is self-perpetuating, and as maher says "It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.." Sorry I couldn't respond to a lot of this juicy material/ideas. I have a huge essay on the Scarlet Letter and I have to finish "Shopkeepers Millenium" for tomorrow so I'm swamped. Keep the thread alive guys.
@obiwan

I can see that you are committed to the belief that The Holy Bible is corrupted over time. I'll merely reiterate that we have many extant copies of these stories from various places and times dating back over a thousand to two thousand years in some cases. The Book of Ruth, for example, was among the Dead Sea scrolls found in the early 20th century. It was hidden in a clay jar for nearly 1,500 years (guessing as I'd have to look the actual number up & it's not that important). When it was found, it showed a nearly identical story to the one in the Holy Bible. That is evidence that the Book of Ruth, as presented in The Holy Bible, has undergone no appreciable amount of corruption in the last 1,500 years. Do people have trouble translating stories? Sure. That trouble doesn't seem to have been such a factor in the stories of the Holy Bible though.

I've presented evidence to support my position here. Can you cite actual documents that show the corruption over time that you think happened? It seems that on this issue you are relying heavily on what you think must have happened, even in spite of solid evidence to the contrary. How do you justify ignoring the evidence that I've cited in favor of your own assumption?
Here is a quote from Time Magazine 1989 referencing the Dead Sea Scrolls:

"The scrolls have also affected Bible translations read by millions of Jews and Christians. The caves contained portions of all the books of the Old Testament except Esther, including a remarkably complete copy of Isaiah that is 1000 year older than any other survivng manuscript. besides clearing up anomalied in several verses, the scrolls have demonstrated the remarkable accuracy with which Jewish scribes preserved the Bible"

Further

"A comparison was made of the Old Testament, as transcribed in the Dead Sea Scrolls, with the transcription written in 900 A.D. [the second oldest manuscript]. This study revealed that the transcription in 900 A.D. was 96% consistent with with the Dead Sea Scrolls transcription, the remaining 4% being mainly mistakes in spelling." (McDowell, pg. 5).

compare this to a 1400 year old prayer in English that begins thusly:

"Fadir Uhre tu eart on heofonum, Si thi name gehaelgod...." which is commonly recited this way today "Our Father in heaven, holy is your name...."

The case for corruption of the Old Testament is far from easy to prove. In fact the evidence shows quite the opposite. It is remarkably well preserved.
Jacob (2466 D)
05 Nov 09 UTC
"The Bible has been tampered with by so many for so many reasons, there are so many versions... and you think that there is a chance it is NOT corrupted?"

Forgot to respond to this. There is actually only ONE version of the New Testament. You can either get the UBS 4 or the NA 27. Both of these are exactly the same Greek text with the difference being the scholarly apparatus that is included.

There ARE many different translations and there will continue to be many more because, as was illustrated earlier, language is dynamic.
ottovanbis (150 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
And you still haven't attended to the fact that humans wrote, created the Bible, without any influence from this God figure you speak so highly of. If your evidence for God is a book created by humans, then I am certainly not convinced. I'm not saying the word of God is corrupted over time, I'm stating that this "revealed word" your faith relies so heavily on, was just something made up by humans to create a system that has been extremely powerful in affecing the mindsets and social facts throughout history (I'll pont more to Catholicism for sure over Protestantism for this in the examples of the H.R.E, and the Inquisition, structure of hierarchy, etc). If you were taking a history class and based your thesis solely on one document/piece of evidence, as it seems you have, your argument would not be very credible, and yet you let yourself be governed by a system that is supported by a very old book of sketchy origins. I don't understand how such a "logical" person as yourself falls back on a facade of reason in your faith in this mostly fairytale book. I'll say that some parts of the Old Testament and New Testament are plausible, a great majority is highly imaginative/ludicrous, and yet it is believed as a whole, and guides the minds and actions of many people. It speaks of sin, and people burning in Hell, it judges, while at the same time deceiving. To me it is a grave hyprocrisy.
ag7433 (927 D(S))
05 Nov 09 UTC
^^ It smells like burning...
I saw recently on the history channel...I think...a story on Homer. The Iliad and Odessey were written 400 years after the death of Homer. There was on an oral tradition of these works prior to that. The idea is that Homer was a musician who put his stories to verse in order to remember them. The documentary studied a group of these modern oral traditionalists from Serbia who handed down stories longer than either the Iliad or Odessey for over 400 years with amazing accuracy.

Also on the history channel was a documentary on the Dead Sea Scrolls. A near complete text of Isaiah from >2000 years ago was discovered also with amazing accuracy.

Draugnar (0 DX)
05 Nov 09 UTC
@ottovanbis - Your statement of "one book" in reference to the Bible is afallacious at best and a strawman argument at worst. The bible is two tomes made up of several books and letters from a variety of people. the first three books of the second tomes (the New Testament) tell the same story from three different perspectives, yet they don't conflict even as much as a typical set of three man-on-the-street witnesses' testimonies that put a killer away.

In short, the bible is a collection of books. Not just one book. And they support each other and can be used for reference because they were written by different people from their perspectives.
@ otto (first of three)

"And you still haven't attended to the fact that humans wrote, created the Bible, without any influence from this God figure you speak so highly of."

I haven't attended to it because it isn't a fact. Facts can be independently verified, your statement cannot. Therefore it's your opinion, and you'll have to support it with factual evidence to make it a serious part of the discussion. Merely stating that something is a fact does not make it so.
@otto (2 of 3)

“I'm not saying the word of God is corrupted over time, I'm stating that this "revealed word" your faith relies so heavily on, was just something made up by humans to create a system that has been extremely powerful in affecting the mindsets and social facts throughout history (I'll point more to Catholicism for sure over Protestantism for this in the examples of the H.R.E, and the Inquisition, structure of hierarchy, etc)."

I’ve noticed that you keep coming back to your opinion about God’s influence in the Bible’s authorship. I’d like to see some evidence that God had no hand in creating the Bible, or I’d ask that you at least qualify it as your belief. As I stated earlier it cannot be a fact, as it cannot be independently verified. To say this or that had no influence in the creation of an artifact is a positive claim that must be supported. For instance, merely stating that you had no part in the commission of a crime will not get you very far as a defense in court.

As to the history of the Roman Catholic Church, that is really another matter entirely. I’m as outraged as anyone else over the atrocities that mankind can deal out to one another. I’d simply state though that some of the best things that people have done over the years (convents hiding Jews from the Nazi’s, many orphanages and hospitals founded, Liberation Theology, etc.) has also been a result of their faith and membership of the Roman Catholic Church (and other churches). Humans do wonderful and terrible things from time to time. Whether they do it in the name of an organization, or not, is largely irrelevant.

Any sufficiently large institution made up of humans will include both the best and worst sorts. Unless you can show causation that membership in the RCC drove them to terrible acts, it shouldn’t be a big surprise that some people are nasty and opportunistic. It does not make sense to assert that an institution is lacking merely because a sociopath rose to power in it. One might as well blame German culture for allowing Hitler’s rise.
@otto (3 of 3)

“If you were taking a history class and based your thesis solely on one document/piece of evidence, as it seems you have, your argument would not be very credible….”

I find this one curious as the theists are the only ones who have brought any outside sources into this conversation at all (The Dead Sea Scrolls, Time Magazine, McDowell’s Evidence that Demands a Verdict).

“… and yet you let yourself be governed by a system that is supported by a very old book of sketchy origins. I don't understand how such a ‘logical’ person as yourself falls back on a facade of reason in your faith in this mostly fairytale book...."


This seems be a departure from the above thread into a criticism of using the Bible as the only source upon which to build one’s faith. This is a terribly broad generalization. Only a portion of Christians base their faith exclusively upon the Holy Bible. An example of this would be the Episcopalian “three legged stool” analogy in which it is stated that Scripture is only one of three sources for divining God’s will for us (the other two being intellect and spirit). Upon what do you base this assumption that Christian’s base their entire faith exclusively upon Scripture?
ottovanbis (150 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Religion= Morals, Theology, Liturgy
Bible= Morals, Theology, Liturgy
Simple enough. Of course it's my opinion that God doesn't exist and then that humans made the Bible (and of course the three sources you state sound similar, it is no coincidence). The people (Greeks) who submitted letters that constitute a portion of the New Testament, many promising religious leaders for the emerging popular cult, had similar interests, so it is only obvious that their stories be similar. Religion allows for social networking and it works in reverse in saying that social networking expedites the process of creating religion (eg infrastruction of Roman Empire in the great roads that allowed carrying of much information. I am big on relativism if you haven't noticed yet (though I'm certain that I've mentioned moral relativism somewhere in this thread). To me, when I use the word "fact"/"truth", I mean what is true to my sense of logic. It completely independent from your truth. After all, isn't the Bible the "word" or "truth" or God? Truth is what is accepted, and I base this basically off of Orwell's classic example of the psychology behind this as exemplified in 1984. I am once again running out of time. Over the weekend I will provide some evidence for you. Until then, tata, cheerio, etc...
Moral relativism works with the idea of right and wrong, but does not extend well to the idea of fact and opinion. To state that something is a fact when it isn't weakens your stance in my opinion. In your defense of the statement you basically said that if something seems reasonable "true to your sense of logic" then you consider it a fact. That leads you down a pretty tricky road in which, for you, a fact is anything you agree with (you words, not mine). Which would lead you to believe that all of your opinions are facts. You see the problem there?
ottovanbis (150 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
It is a fact distinctly for me. In other words knowledge is basically relative. You are misinterpreting what I thought was a relatively clear message. I cited moral relativism as an example of my trend towards not seeing things as objective black and white facts. Here's what you read wrong: my point is not that I'm always right (that's highly improbable) it's that it is impossible to be right because truth by nature of those who conceive it, is subjective to human interpretation, and really doesn't exist as it does by its modernly accepted definition. I've basically redefined the argument. Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
ottovanbis (150 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
In other words, if you can't accept this, then I win by the sheer merit of my stubborness. QED the fat lady has sung, that's all she wrote, fine. I don't see you as the kind to take well to this extremely loose and possibly contradictory sense of being. I'm interested in how you interpret (and interpretation is our basic point of deviation in the grander scheme of this thread) Rene Descartes famous line "I think therefore I am" Please answer this first, then I may continue this discussion based on my intrigue (as you can see I'm quite selfish)
@ otto

Some additional facts:

In Judea, persecution of Christians began immediately. Stephen (the first martyr) lost his life the year after the crucifixion of Christ (Burke, Characteristics of the Early Christian Church, pg101).

Later, this persecution spread throughout Rome.

From around 64AD (Nero setting fire to Rome and blaming it on the Christians) until 313 AD (Constantine the Great recognizes Christianity) it was illegal to be a Christian in the Roman Empire. Depending upon the emperor and his attitude toward the Christians, the political conditions under which Christians lived could range from merely unsettling “in a don’t ask; don’t tell” sort of way, to downright tragic (lunch for lions). This is pretty well documented but here are some sources.

http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/romans.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians#The_Great_Persecution
http://patriot.net/~carey/afa/latinclub/persecution.htm


Yes, the Romans had great roads and they employed them to ferret out Christians. As to the notion that the early Christian Churches had easy access to one another, it simply was not the case. Paul was jailed more than once, shipwrecked, and ultimately executed. Nearly all of the apostles died violently. St. Andrew, at the age of 80, lasted three days on a cross (not unheard of) preaching the whole time. However, after 300 years of persecution, the state of Christian letters and books was anything but uniform. Therefore the Councils of Nicea and other ecumenical councils were needed specifically to allow the extant bishops to come to an agreement on what a Christian believed (Nicean Creed). Far from a shady group secretly meeting to organize a hoax, these meetings were called by the pagan emperor of Rome.

C'mon otto, free thinker that you are, are you really going to resort to such a cop out? When the facts don't back you up question the validity of their use on the grounds that interpretation is unique to each individual? If my interpretation of the facts wrong, show me the point at which I've deviated. I've certainly given you enough to consider. Surely we can agree that two contrary positions cannot both be correct. Are you unable to find a flaw in my logic?
ottovanbis (150 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
Dude you think I'm stupid. I consider what you just cited as significant evidence as common knowledge. What you're missing there is that this persecution allowed fo the spreading of Christianity because it created martyrs. It was a well devised system that soon supplanted the suppression of the Roman way to a form in its own light. I wouldn't call my logic,methodology as a "cop out." What is the significance of anything you just wrote. Come on, you can do better than that. I don't want to throw quotes and primary source documents with different interpretations back and forth. I want the source, dammit. The fundamental questions. Don't get lost in misinterpreted specifics. Why do you think, how can you explain, what you just stated. Read between the lines dude. I as well have given you some things to consider that you have ignored, I suggest you take your own advice before you expect me to do the same...
ottovanbis (150 DX)
06 Nov 09 UTC
BTW these are all secular facts... just saying. you haven't shown with any logic why the religious system behind it works on itself (another thought: winners decide history)
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
06 Nov 09 UTC
@obiwan

you clearly have not really studied what youre really saying in the above. i have done extensive self-study into the issue. there have been over 50,000 copies of the new testament alone found either in part or entirety. this number has continued to survive against all odds. shortly after the death of christ and for hundreds of years following, anyone even thought to be a christian was killed and any manuscripts found were destroyed on finding. the bible says that God's word will never pass away. the great thing is that out of 50k+ copies, the differences were extremely minute. bear in mind that the translations are more recent. the copies were primarily made in the same language and so translation doesnt become an issue until centuries later and even after heavy scrutiny, they still hold far more water to the "originals" than even homer's Illiad and any other work from around its same time that was NOT under such attack.

secondly, science and archaeology has continued to unearth and discover additional findings that continue to prove the Bible at its word. for example, the pool of siloam had 6 fountains. this pool was said to be a myth created by john and never really existed. within the last 40 years, this very pool has been discovered and appears exactly as it was described. cities that have long been lost are also being discovered. nearly every city in the Bible to date has been unearthed. EVEN NOAH's ARK in exact proportion resting in present day turkey according to the Bible's description of its resting place. satelite imaging has produced evidence of metals within the ark that fit the description of animal cages and the 3-layers described in the Bible.

youre right that if this were a normal document, that there would be plenty of falsifications, and yet, it is miraculously better preserved than any other work in the history of mankind.

to another point, yes, the Bible is a selective work. it does not tell the whole story and was never meant to. the Bible was written for the sole purpose to bring men to God through the blood of Jesus Christ. it was never meant for a scientific work and yet it still stands strong against the scientific world because of its unerring truth. the bible says at the end of the book of john that if everything jesus ever did were written down, the works of it would fill the world according to john (being a little exaggerated but to the point).

finally, concerning the truth of the old testament and its preservation, the OT was considered to have many differences compared to its assumed original. thats what made the dead sea scrolls such a major find. it was 1000 years older than any other copy of the OT ever found to date. within it (along with other works) was a copy or fragment of every book of the OT except 1 and what they found when they compared it to copies found around 1000 A.D. was astounding. they found that it was nearly 100% word-for-word! thats 1000 years of existance and hardly any change whatsoever. the changes that were made were so small, its not even worth calling an error because it neither changed the meaning of the text, one maybe two words were slightly different (in english similar to using the word beautiful for pretty...hardly a corruption), etc.

the reasons for this are simple 1) this work is, was and always will be held in such high regard that people dare not make one small error in its copying because it comes from the mouth of God. something that is viewed as that precious earns far more care. and 2) the work of God was behind it to preserve it.

the one area that i actually agree with you is that the Bible is corruptible, but only by corruptible men. this is what martin luther encountered during the reformation when man's law superceeded God's law. the same was true during the time of Christ when the word of God was substituted for with man's tradition. the words themselves never changed but how it was taught did. what is even more amazing is that even through all the satanic efforts, the word remains pure.

additionally, try reading the Bible. the jews are not villans in this Book. you should recall (if youve read it) that the first converts to chrisitianity were jewish. peter, john and the disciples were jews. jesus was a jew, the first areas of preaching was in jerusalem and judea where thousands converted to chrisitianity. it wasnt until after the first major persecution that the jews fled to gentile lands and spread the word there that gentiles began being converted. recall that peter suffered stiff opposition from the jewish believers when he took the word to the gentiles. the same non-villification of the romans is found as well. the NT in no way shows any group of men as villians over others, it simply tells the truth of how things were. what it does show, however, is that ALL men are enemies of God, jew and gentile alike and that the only way to God is through Jesus Christ.
@ otto

Not all, I think you're intelligent. If what was meant as friendly chiding gave offense I apologize.

Let's recap because internet conversations have a nasty habit of losing focus. My position is this:

In response to an allegation that the Holy Bible is corrupted over time, I've shown evidence that this is not so. In so doing I have not asserted that it is God's word (an article of faith) but I have shown that if God exists it is as pure as any written source is likely to be. Therefore the facts surrounding it are consistent with it being the actual inspired word of God.

If you agree, go ahead and state you agree. If you do not, great support your position. But regardless of what you decide, good night and sleep well.
Hi Tru Ninja,

Thanks for the additional post. I agree that it is quite well documented how the scribes careful the scribes have been in preserving the Holy Bible.
rather **how careful the scribes were in preserving the Holy Bible (Scriptures)**

Ugh, long week :-/
ottovanbis (150 DX)
07 Nov 09 UTC
Good night, I shall respond in the morning. I mean no ill against you, as I exemplified with the Irish Blessing.
Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
07 Nov 09 UTC
hi crazy anglican. just thought id share my two cents since ive spent years and years of personal study into the issue, heard from nearly every argument known to man and the fact that ive been up most nights taking care of my newborn...gotta do something with those sleepless nights : )
ottovanbis (150 DX)
07 Nov 09 UTC
what are your two cents?
ottovanbis (150 DX)
07 Nov 09 UTC
you mean that long explanation on the historical accuracy of some of the bible? ok, gotcha nvm

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17 Nov 09 UTC
School of War (SoW V) - end of game statements
Here is a new threat to post some end of game statements and comments on SoW 5 which ended today with an English solo.
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Le_Roi (913 D)
22 Nov 09 UTC
Dudeboi
Could we do something about him? The multiple threads he created - 13, if I'm correct - have bumped some threads off the main page, and, quite frankly, are an eyesore with all the exclamation points and whatnot.
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