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N1ghthawk (0 DX)
28 Aug 08 UTC
One more player needed!!!!
i know its a little late to be asking but can someone please join this game?

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5365

its a 100pt buy in and its a PPSC game
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bernie (111 D)
28 Aug 08 UTC
New Open Game. All Welcome To Join. 10 Pts Each. Cheap!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5375
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DeliciousWolf (112 D)
28 Aug 08 UTC
Low Budget WTA open
Winner Takes All (175 points!), 24 hr phases.
My first 'Winner Takes All' Game for Girls
(Amusing title, guys welcome.)
gameID=5373
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Wolfyboy (100 D)
27 Aug 08 UTC
2 more for Norm speed and PpSC game!
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5359

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philcore (317 D(S))
27 Aug 08 UTC
Question for Kestas
in game: http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5155

we're waiting for France to retreat, but I can't figure out why. He has been holding his last unit in Paris for several turns and no one has been able to take him there including last turn. But since he doesn't have much interest in the game, he doesn't care about putting his orders in. I understand that and while annoying, I don't fault him. But there's no reason the rest of us should have to wait the entire cycle when he doesn't have any retreat orders to make. Can you explain? Or maybe even force the finalize?

Thanks in advance
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jnak (100 D)
28 Aug 08 UTC
theres a game free
plz join
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
14 Aug 08 UTC
Multi-accounter
Kangaroo, canute, TinTin, Careless, mapleleafrulz, russianwinter, fucka, newton, aliencity

Feels good undoing all those points gathered and accounts created over 6 months in less than 10 minutes :-) It's like kicking down an asshole's sand castle
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CountArach (587 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Awesome move kestas :D
aoe3rules (949 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
would it be possible to get an 84-point refund? and two "defeated"s changed to "survived"s?
mapleleaf (0 DX)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Nice going Kestas.

What has gone unmentioned, is that I originally accused TinTin and canute of being multi's on this forum long long ago. I also sent Kestas an email privately on this matter, as he will verify.

I was viciously excoriated by at least two people that have posted on this thread, along with countless others.

Kestas gets his ass kissed, and I get excoriated.

I breathlessly await the apologies.

Feckless Clod (777 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Do you think he's turning blue yet?
DeliciousWolf (112 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
In recent "NO FLEET BUILDS 1" I began to suspect Canute (russia) and Tintin (England), also possibly Kangaroo (Italy) of being multi. I won't give away exactly what he was doing, but the simultaneous fleet builds were another big hint as to what was going on. I'm glad our little experiment in alternate rules, while collapsing due to the cheating, helped bring down a massive cheater; Kestas was kind enough to end the game and refund the bet.

Sweet, Sweet Justice- Awesome Kestas!!
kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
14 Aug 08 UTC
Re:mapleleaf

Oops, must have missed that ;-) My bad

If it's any consolation the process is still manual, which means comparing several different logged fields (matched vs not matched), checking similarities between log on times, and cross-overs between games joined over the whole range of logs to make sure that it was a multi-accounter and not <possible excuse for suspicious logs>

I didn't take someone else's word over yours, it's just a pain to do the SQL to do the comparisons (and last time I did it it turned out there was a plausible excuse, which I didn't want to repeat)

I'd be more happy than anyone to see a patch to allow this analysis to be done by moderators instantly, if you want to see faster response times. Until then at least there's the satisfaction/consolation of waiting for them to build up some points before they get wiped :-)
mapleleaf (0 DX)
14 Aug 08 UTC
I am extremely satisfied with this result, of course.

Thank you, Kestas. I feel vindicated.
DeliciousWolf (112 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
I'm impressed Canute got up to 940 points before being eliminated, that surely puts him in the top 100. In a paranoid-suspicious group like this, it's pretty hard to cheat for long because nobody is a trusting soul !
Sicarius (673 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
ah mapleleaf is vindicated of being the boy who cried wolf.
wonderful! now we know that he doesnt make accusations just because he doesnt like people

but he is still a bitter old racist bougeoise desk jockey who takes out all of his aggression he accumulates from a depressing life on peopel who play internet diplomacy.

bravo.
Sicarius (673 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
oh and sometimes he makes accusations of multi-accounting because he doesnt like the people


other than that good job kestas
mapleleaf (0 DX)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Welcome back, Sicarius.

I hope that you didn't drop the soap in the shower.
Feckless Clod (777 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
There's the satisfaction/consolation of waiting for them to build up some points before they get wiped.... except that those are OUR points getting wiped! :|
Iidhaegn (111 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
What ever happened to DaveMorano? Did he get the boot? I was sure he'd be venting his "stop the meta" theology up and down this post. Maybe he got booted and I never noticed.

I wonder if canute respawned as an "anti-metagamer" in this thread somewhere. mapleleaf, if I viciously excoriated you (I don't think I did, because I'm not sure I've ever excoriated anyone) I'm sorry. But as I'm probably not the guy, that's a pointless apology. :-)
Feckless Clod (777 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
I have to say, I'm very impressed that Sicarius can nearly spell 'bourgeois'....
Treefarn (6094 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Even if there was no reason to excoriate Mapleleaf on this issue, there are probably a few others.
Centurian (3257 D)
14 Aug 08 UTC
Well I distinctly remember seeing ao3rules get doubleteamed by TinTin/Kangaroo. I believe we mentioned it before.
abgemacht (1076 D(G))
15 Aug 08 UTC
Thank you Kestas! Every time I have to interact with canute he was a complete idiot and a jerk; it got to the point were I didn't want to start games because I was afraid he'd join. I'm really glad he was finally caught.
DaveMorano (560 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Lidhaegn: I'm still here. My vendetta with Canute is a real one. DeliciousWolf and I detected Tintin and Kangaroo as multigamers due to obvious synchronicity in login times. I actually would be happy to help kestas work on that patch that detected multigaming activity. Other than that...Kestas you are awesome.
DaveMorano (560 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
And yes, I am taking a break from my rant. Really it's more about doing about multi-gaming than complaining about it. And Kestas has demonstrated a lot in the doing department today.
DeliciousWolf (112 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Believe me, there was more than just the log-in times, though that too was part of it. Canute knew how to hide his multi-accounting and got away with it for quite some time.
Sicarius (673 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
yeah my bad, I'm reading the communist manifesto right now and thats how marx spells it.

like how I read liek 4 mark twain books and I kept typing 'aint's' and 'shore wills' that kinda shit
Chrispminis (916 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
The Communist Manifesto was written in German...? So don't blame Marx. =D
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
15 Aug 08 UTC
He was a good liar and a good multiaccounter...hard to detect.
I was actually surprised when Kestas announced above that they have now officially kicked the bucket.
Sandcastle, maybe...
mapleleaf (0 DX)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Actually, he was a horrible liar and an obvious multi. He repeated a comment to me that I made to one of his aliases in the private press of another game. I made the determination, and called him on it.

The sad reality is that you were all, for the most part, to obtuse to perform the mental arithmetic.

Harsh, but true.
Gobbledydook (1389 D(B))
15 Aug 08 UTC
Keep insulting us.
destp (2774 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
That's 'too obtuse,' not 'to obtuse'.
Iidhaegn (111 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Yeah, we're all grownups around here. :-D
Churchill (2280 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Well I distinctly remember seeing ao3rules get doubleteamed by TinTin/Kangaroo. I believe we mentioned it before.

-I've seen it. Careless was in that game too. Somehow I came out with a win over 3 of his accounts and aoe3.
aoe3rules (949 D)
15 Aug 08 UTC
Churchill: well, i still want a refund for that one. not that it was very important/valuable, those games just killed my win ratio (12 games with those multi guys, and no wins - i thought i was getting worse).
one strange thing I noticed was in the game Old Europe II was kangaroo took over france, mapleleafrulz took turkey but then turkey went into CD while france kept playing?

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Churchill (2280 D)
24 Aug 08 UTC
Inflation
Wow, When I joined the minimum for the top 100 was just at 600, 5 months ago. Now I'm 101st with 880 points. 280 points over 5 months, which on 600 is 47%, 9% per month (avg).

Following this, on my anniversary, I estimate that the points for the top 100 will be >1270. That's 112% inflation rate over a year.
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WhiteSammy (132 D)
28 Aug 08 UTC
Unique Games
So i found this game while looking at other peoples games and this one in particular caught my eye.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3627

I find this game extremely unique bc
1) neither england, france, or germany was eliminated within at least 6 turns and neither one was forced to move away from its home sc's like austria.
2) the game is, oddly enough, very well balanced at the end, with of course the exception to the winner.
3) this game was not rigged by a meta but had the end results that look like one that the meta just moved the units of the other countries out of the way of his own.

Basically i was just wondering if anyone has seen a game like this one you know something extremely unorthodox like the person who won was missing a home sc or anything crazy in general.
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aoe3rules (949 D)
25 Aug 08 UTC
Rating system vote
See thread "Ranking system" for details on the systems.

everyone places one vote for their preferred ranking system. note that Kestas will not program any new system, and it must be tested on an alternate server if it is to be implemented.

we add up the votes, and if an alternate ranking system wins, everyone who is willing to help develop it should start working.

the options are:

1. Current point system.
Pros: proven to work/stable. helps separate new from experienced players.
Cons: susceptible to inflation, and cheating. same reward for beating anyone, as long as they have the points.

2. Zarathrusta's proposed system.
Pros: supposedly more accurate.
Cons: supposedly more inaccurate.

3. Elo ratings
Pros: solves all problems of current point system.
Cons: too much effort.

4. Other (post in your reply, along with P/C).
Pros/Cons: who knows what.
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gryncat (2606 D)
27 Aug 08 UTC
new game needs two players
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5344

Casual friendly game (as friendly as these things go, I suppose). Two players that were supposed to join could not, so I am looking to fill the spots before the game starts so new players aren't just stuck with Germany and Italy.

Password is: law school

See you there.
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 Aug 08 UTC
Why I quit Diplomacy
Here is the Austrian Emperors last ditch effort to stay alive long enough for help to arrive. I turn to once Proud Russia's final unit in Galicia for some help.

Tue 03 AM (Austria, Me) Autumn 1904: not for nothing but I never crossed you, could you help me out with your last orders?
10:20 PM (Russia) Spring 1905: what do you want help with?
03:56 AM (Austria) Spring 1905: support vienna into budapest?
11:32 AM (Russia) Spring 1905: done

*I Bounce with no Turkish support on Budapest and no support from Russia*

07:14 PM (Austria) any reason you left me out to dry?
07:16 PM (Russia) order history...
Russia:
The army at Galicia support move to Vienna from Budapest.
07:17 PM (Austria) What? It was supposed to be veinna into Budapest. Are you kidding me? Why would I want you to support budapest to vienna?
07:18 PM (Austria) translation: you got it backwards
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
27 Aug 08 UTC
Question re what army movement & outcome
French army Burgundy moves to Belgium
French army Marseilles moves to Burgundy
French army Paris supports Marseilles' move to Burgundy

German army Rhur moves to Belgium

Because the two units moving into Belgium are moving with equal force, neither wins, and thus there is a stand-off.

Does the French unit return to Burgundy, pushing the unit now in Burgundy back to Marseilles, OR does the unit now in Burgundy remain in Burgundy, and thus the unit that failed to occupy Belgium obliged to retreat to a contiguous empty space (such as Picardy)?
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TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
24 Aug 08 UTC
League system announcement
We now have 35 players in our league system. There are a few others who want to join. If that number reaches seven by Friday 29th August, then I shall add an extra league in. To register interest, please email me, the email including your phpdiplomacy name.

Full details about the leagues are in the reply.
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Henry Kissinger (100 D)
22 Aug 08 UTC
Is this metagaming or just poor sportsmanship??
See comment below.
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q93 (373 D)
27 Aug 08 UTC
Kestas
I just had an unusual option:

Army at Burgundy support move to Belgium from: Ruhr, Tusc.........
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texasdeluxe (516 D(B))
27 Aug 08 UTC
All or nothing...
Come join a 36 hour 101 point winner takes all game. Hopefully there will be lots of diplomacy and political intrigue and much scheming... Trust there will be no missed moves, CDs or unbreakable alliances... Game is called 'All or nothing...' (http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5361)
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Sicarius (673 D)
26 Aug 08 UTC
what kind of music is this?
no idea how to classify this, maybe someone could help
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Churchill (2280 D)
26 Aug 08 UTC
Government
So, in my tired ramblings I came up with the idea of a phpDip goverment that might be entrusted in regulating some of the inflation problems (it might even tie in with kestas's moderators).

Systems could include determination by vote, by rank, or better: both.

This would be very interesting, as Diplomacy is a political game in a nature, and I feel that many players would enjoy a longer-spanning side-game so to speak.

Discuss below:
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Figaro Figstein (100 D)
27 Aug 08 UTC
Mazel Tov Cocktails Over Berlin
Advanced beginner game here at http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5355 please join if you think that you fit that criteria.
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Rasputin31 (100 D)
24 Aug 08 UTC
Shot, Stabbed or Drowned?
Join my game! Its to die for!
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prospero811 (100 D)
26 Aug 08 UTC
Convoy Rules - Kiel
Can an army in, say, Norway, on a fleet through the Nth Sea, on another fleet through the Heligoland Bight, on another fleet through the Baltic, and land in Berlin without stopping for a turn at Kiel.

In the rule book, the close up views of Kiel seem to indicate that the Heligoland Bight includes the Kiel canal and the little bit of water on the eastern side of Kiel. So, it seems to me that convoying through there should be possible, but I've not found an explanation that covers that.

What does everyone think?
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hermanobrown (925 D)
25 Aug 08 UTC
GMT- 3 begin at 10:00 am until 05:00 pm 30 minutes
Hi. I want to start a game with 30 minutes/ round. The idea is that the game will have 72h/round just to no post a turn in weekend. But, every player needs (during the week since 10:00 am until 05:00 pm) post his orders in 30 minutes / turn, On this way the game will have 30 minutes x turn but will not have end of turn on weekend or during the night. For this I am using the GM -3. Who wants???
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aoe3rules (949 D)
23 Aug 08 UTC
New Game
for moderately skilled players. 50-bet PPSC. post here if interested; password will be emailed.
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Close thread button at top as well as bottom of open threads
Can we please have such a button? With really long threads it can be difficult to find the button to close it.
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fidel (886 D)
26 Aug 08 UTC
Where can I get the code to give it a look?
I want to look at the code of the site, just to see how complex is it, and if I can help somehow.
Where should I look for it?
And the variations? Are all discussed here? Or there is some system for group development or something?

(It is likely this have been discussed before, but, why not to use some forum system as phpBB or similar? It is really messy to follow some conversations here... ;-).
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Yaniv (1323 D(S))
26 Aug 08 UTC
Question re what a fleet can and cannot do
A fleet leaves harbour to venture into waters occupied by an opposing fleet, and she does this with no support. Normally the first fleet would be bounced back from whence she came.
But, what if simultaneously, the opposing fleet conveys an army into the harbour from whence the first fleet floated from. As the first fleet was unable to dislodge its enemy fleet, does the opposing army that was conveyed now occupy the first fleet's harbour? And if so, does that mean that the first fleet retreats to any unoccupied adjascent space contiguous to both (a) its harbour and (b) the water into which it first attempted to sail?
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Treefarn (6094 D)
25 Aug 08 UTC
Treefarns No Press 1 - 119 points PPSC
I've never tried No Press, so I thought I'd give it a try. Anyone else interested, come join.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5326
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xgongiveit2ya55 (789 D)
26 Aug 08 UTC
Treefarns NO PRESS 1
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=5326

Please join, as I doubt I'll work up the guts to join again if it fails to start
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ava2790 (232 D(S))
22 Aug 08 UTC
Complicated support question
Let's suppose I want to play the following moves this turn:

A War-Gal
A Boh S A War-Gal
A Gal S A Boh holds

What would happen if:

1. A Vie-Boh
2. A Vie-Boh AND A Tyr S A Vie-Boh
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