The main problem you'll find with black populations is in large they're focused in the lower class of urban areas with democrats or republicans elected who work with the unions and do little direct good for the people. The and truth is, if you're poor, then it's not going to be an easy way upwards. It's not impossible, but it's hard.

But some more statistics, the black single parent household rated has over quadrupled, black kids aren't graduating from high school, and gangs are still prominent in most urban areas.

All of these aren't racial oppression, all of these are cultural problems.


The root of the problem goes all the way backed to the HUGELY failed 'reconstruction'. The black community never got a foothold in the 1870s, and because of that they went to the bottom of the economic food chain. Full legal rights weren't established until half a century ago, but since then we've seen a black President, black supreme court justice, black attorney general...

the problems we have in major cities are almost unanimously controlled by democrats, which although it's ironic given party platforms, local corruption reigns supreme.

I just don't like the hatred going towards the police as an entity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfi3Ndh3n-g

You can choose not to participate in a society which insists on robbing the hard working to pay medical care for the poor/old (but nobody else?)

I mean in theory you CAN choose to dissapear, go off the grid, and live independently...

But that doesn't mean it would be easy, and people then to take the path of least resistance, make the most with the least effort...

"I mean that he can choose to not participate in sports organized by the institutions he hates so much, not that he is forced to not participate."

This sounds an awful lot like an endorsement of government sponsorship (read: control) of the football industry. Is that really the typical public position of American conservatives these days? Seems to me that someone who really believes in conservative values ought to be railing against government influence in football, not using it as a pivot to attack people for their public theatrics who get a tangential benefit from it. Shows to go you just how morally and intellectually bankrupt American conservatism has become.

"You can choose not to participate in a society which insists on robbing the hard working to pay medical care for the poor/old (but nobody else?) "

That's even more stupid than paying only for the poor/old. Why would I give my money to the government to buy me insurance when I can buy insurance myself?

"This sounds an awful lot like an endorsement of government sponsorship (read: control) of the football industry."

Nowhere did I say I support I support it. I am stating the fact that he shouldn't be supporting institutions he hates.

@Leon, because the collective bargaining power of the government has already been shown to get better value for money from big companies? I mean, that's fairly well known, right? monopolostic behaviour on the part of consumers helps them negotiate...

And no, i don't see why you'd want the government to buy you insurance, you could save money by cutting out the insurance middle man. And by taking money out of the equation entirely - ie the doctor gets paid regardless of your treatment, and you get treated regardless of you income (you can verify quality of services by being able to sue doctors who don't do their job well, just like you do now...) - you save a huge amount of effort and paper work.

The NHS in England works just fine. Gets better quality of outcomes while spending a much smaller % of GDP on health care... so it can be done.

The NHS works just fine... and if the government goes into an economic crisis and primary austerity measures come in, who would be hurt first? oh yes. wonderful.

That said it has done remarkably well for Britain so far, but much of Britain is wanting closed off immigration, which insures a stable/decreasing population acceleration.

not happening in the US of A(ss kicking)

If we're talking about who the health system punishes in an economic downturn...The US system of health insurance tied to employment is *laser-focused* on punishing people who need help during a recession, namely, the ones who lose their jobs. At least a public healthcare system can cushion the blow with deficit spending.

"At least a public healthcare system can cushion the blow with deficit spending."

As if we don't have enough of that.

I have to laugh at these new conservatives who watch Tomi Lahren videos and post them to social media. They start clapping their hands like someone just threw a hail mary.

Like guys this chicks a loudmouth dumbfuck. lets be real. shes a complete Ann Coulter wannabe; who is clearly the spitting image of white privelege.

Tomi Lahren? what civilized culture has quoted her???

Frankly USA healthcare is a mess, but the NHS simply could not function as well in the US

Am I the only one who didn't know who Tomi Lahren was until the last few days?

dailywire? Well, given the fact that that's not exactly a credible source, I looked into some of these from more credible sources, and some check out.

The fact is that cops overwhelmingly are more likely to shoot black men specifically than anyone else AND the rest of the cops routinely cover it up. Add to it the routine harrassment of black people by cops, and yeah we have a systemic problem. It's not like they're all klansmen (although some clearly are: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/21/police-ku-klux-klan-florida-fruitland-park), but are they fair in how they treat minorities? Not by a long shot. If you are an American committed to "liberty and justice for all" then no way you don't protest that. Here the patriots are the ones speaking out for change, not those mindless worshiping some brand.

And don't get started on the US health care system. It sucks. Hugely expensive and worse incomes. Only Americans would tolerate such a thing.

For so many reasons even the fucking headline I laugh.
https://youtu.be/qq0_nyWVXCI

"Destroys" pfft

"The fact is that cops overwhelmingly are more likely to shoot black men specifically than anyone else"

yes this is true, but I think you're misinterpreting the statistic, as it IS disproportionate to other races, but it IS proportionate on socio-economic status. And no it's not systematic. you can have pockets, like in some small towns or in a precent, but ALL COPS, that's the buzz word I don't stand for.

" Hugely expensive and worse incomes." -that's not even a sentence, but yeah American healthcare is awful

WAIT... NO THAT'S NOT TRUE WHOA I MISREAD THAT

Proportional to the umber of people in this country, Black men are more highly targeted, BUT THE PURE NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHOT BY COPS BY RACE IS WHITE PEOPLE

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/07/18/police-shootings-and-race/?utm_term=.4e6c436df3bd

@ogion

another HUGE problem i have with the media is all the hype around the wrong shootings. some of the shootings of unarmed black kids are far, but some of the time the news takes a case where the police officer is justified and turns it around on him. Then you get "social justice warriors" who call for vindication in court, but when the ACTUAL legal system goes to work, they get pissed. It's not perfect but their system is not better than the lynchings we used to have in this damn country

It doesn't matter what the root cause is, be it race, gender, build, socioeconomics, the neighborhood they're in, or whatever. The fact that cops routinely and blatantly judge people by something other than the crime they have committed and/or are committing and the level of danger that they or those around them are in is abhorrent. It's not excusable.

"As if we don't have enough of that."

Yeah, thanks in no small part to a shitty, inefficient, ineffective healthcare system. We're paying that *all the time*, not just in recessions. But hey, tell me more about how you care about the deficit.

Reposting this at the front, the ONLY argument you'll have is "OH THEY'RE COVERING IT UP" and that's not an argument

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/07/18/police-shootings-and-race/?utm_term=.4e6c436df3bd

@bo

And so yes I agree with you we need reform in our police, but as for the mechanics of it, it's hard to say. "Diversity training"??? that shit doesn't help it ALL starts back at childhood, the parenting, and these bastards grew up to carry guns.

but SJW bullying innocent cops for being unfortunate enough to be one of the small percent who kill a black man BOOM get bullied out of a job, even if the court clears them. And yes the courts aren't the best, but regardless of his innocence: these people demand SOCIAL JUSTICE

Police training doesn't start in childhood. Maturity as a human being starts in childhood. That is not part of police training. I would argue that that might be a decent quality to look for in, oh, I don't know, admission to police academies or even hiring onto police forces...

Likewise, if you're a police officer and you kill somebody, you should a) be thoroughly investigated, because someone's fucking dead, and b) receive psychological support through the department. Part of that process should mean you aren't gonna just go back in the field the next morning. And, if it turns out you did something wrong, then you, just like anyone else, face consequences. In instances where these "social justice warriors" are standing up and crying that an officer has done something wrong, there's largely been ample enough evidence to make a case for it. The fact that these instances are being brought to light through the overreactive media and overreactive populace is largely a good thing.

The issue is the tremendous number of shootings period. Somehow British and German cops manage to keep the peace without shooting up the place. US cops kill nearly as many people as gang members do per person. That is a problem


Of course, the issue is smaller than several others related to poverty and climate change which both kill more black people than cops. Still, there is something disgusting about corrupt police (and this notion that the courts are to be trusted in matter of justice for cops is a joke)