Maybe we will get this thread back onto its positive tone before it dies.... inch'Allah.

Sybok enlightens basically everybody but Kirk, and they all become better and happier, but it turns out that the "god" is actually an alien luring the Enterprise to an abandoned planet so that it can escape.

So the God acts like a bit of an opiate for the masses, but then turns out to be a lie in the end? Extraordinary!

God is only a lie if you have the wrong meaning of God in mind. If God means truth, then, well, of course God exists.

Not exactly. Sybok does a lot of good and it is only him that "hears" "god."

@Thucy
I think we sort of meant God as in active omnipotent (actually not in some religions) entity. Ascribing any other meaning to the word seems pointless. If God means truth, then just say truth and we can debate whether that exists or not.

So this lie/God is to be accepted only by the unverifiable claims of a select person who claims to be in direct contact with him, but can offer no evidence to support his claims? Extraordinary!

Can't be disproven, so it MUST be true.

God totally means truth. Except when he means love. Or whatever buttonhole conveniently fits the current discussion.

bo_sox has no penis.

"Can't be disproven, so it MUST be true."

My question is, how on earth did this get through? I mean, there's tempting religious censorship, and there's this.

YJ, don't draw correlations. I only wanted to point out that Star Trek DID have a "god figure" at some point. Also, what about Q? He is basically a god, though not a benevolent one.

Which do you prefer YJ, pictures or a meet up?

I was about to respond to that seriously, but then I realized I'd be a 33 year old man engaged in a heated debate about Star Trek on the internet. I think I'll pass.

@bosox With something this serious, I think I need to see for myself.

All right, but in all honesty, you can see my pictures and even arrange your own intimate, private show on biblehub.com.

Star Trek is EVERYTHING!!!

Can we have it on record that of the three very recent threads about religion, one got closed, one is talking about Christian porn sites, and one is talking about Star Trek and the verifiability of existence of bo_sox's penis?

Oh yeah and the two that are alive are intersecting. What will Muslims think when they see that the thread welcoming them to the forum is now about Christian porn, bo_sox's (as yet unproven) penis, and Star Trek?

Enlightened Muslims I don't care, but Islam is a threat to humanity. It's a deeply fascist ideology from the Middle Ages and not a religion. In about 200 suras is called to murder against infidels. The IS is a series of disastrous US policy in the Middle East and North Africa by Obama and strengthened Islam in these countries. Europe currently pays a high price for the Geo ploitic of the US administration who live confidently behind the Atlantic far away. The alleged Arab Spring, which was a winter from the beginning, are now Ice Age and standstill. No room for these crazy enemies of mankind with an islam chip in there head!

"No room for these crazy enemies of mankind with an islam chip in there head!"

No room for these crazy enemies of mankind that DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THERE, THEIR, AND THEY'RE

Wow, so now we have Christian porn, Star Trek, bo_sox's (potential) penis, and rampant Islamophobia with amusing spelling mistakes. In a thread about welcoming Muslims to the site. Yes, they are clearly going to stay here once they see the forum.

Should we make a Pro-Normal Person thread? That's probably the group of people we scare off most.

What would the thread solve? I mean, look what happened to this one.

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/humour/diplomacy_and_star_trek.htm

Go figure, there actually is an article about diplomacy and Star Trek. Apparently, the only part of this thread related to the game itself is the Star Trek. Oh yeah, and the morons. But those are obvious.

@obi,

" As for myself, I care more about what someone reads and what their tastes and personality/aptitude is like rather than their background."

I don't know if religious beliefs are just "background," though. Sure, if somebody has left their faith, but I think that's a different statement than saying that you don't care about somebody's religious beliefs.

I'm not islamophobia, I love the freedom and therefore include all religions in public life as far down in fetters, that they exert no more power. We have created everything great after the Enlightenment, with creative spirits. In addition, this thread was put up provocative for me. Who cares?

Considering your profile is a lone quote by the one guy who has gotten away with preaching nothing but murder and tyranny in the public sphere, the fact that you complain about a thread celebrating religious tolerance doesn't surprise me.

@phil_a_s "active omnipotent entity"

I think Truth is an active, omnipotent entity. And I believe in it.

@YJ

Truth and love are the same thing. Love and goodness are the same thing, and nothing good be better than the truth, nothing could be more true than goodness.