It's not something we say too often in America either. Maybe try adding a bunch of U's in improper places in the words and it'll make more sense. :P

Not much to go on yet. Again, I think a lynch day one is the only reasonable option. Uclabb makes a super convincing argument, so ##VOTE PJ.

Warden, are you casting suspicion on people for making jokes? Why would anyone ever do that?

Not so much suspicion, as I highly doubt the mafia would want to risk sticking their necks out like that, but I don't think they're the best way to help the town, I mean, I got crucified last game for making a couple jokes, and I didn't exactly have anything right either. Interesting so far, is something Maniac said prior to his decision to call out YJ as lurking:

"Looking around the old town looks the same as ever, even though the gunslinger could now be a doctor and the sheriff may have turned bad. Maybe we'll never know. "

It's probably nothing, and as I get a better handle on his style I'll know for sure, but he did single out two particular role-changes instead of mentioning the fact that ALL ROLES were redistributed randomly. The doc, gunslinger, cop, and/or the mafia could be VT now, or any other role.

I'm almost certainly over-analyzing it, but I'm bored and there hasn't really been that much press yet.

Yeah... I just realized I sort of contradicted myself above. Maniac is most likely just doing some flavor there, and the likelihood of trying to hide something damning in that in the first day seems pretty low.

LOL @ lurking. Checking in for now, but I won't be able to make substantial contributions till later this evening.

@Maniac, when you first accused YJ of lurking the ones who hadn't posted yet were
1. ghug
2. YJ
3. Slyguy
4. uclabb
9. WardenDresden
10. Eden
13. VashtaNeurotic

Why do you find YJ any more suspicious than the othes? Since then all but Eden, Vashta and YJ have made posts, how is YJ different than the others? The only difference I see is Squigs mentioning him as an example. How come YJ is olympic class but the others don't merit any mentioning?

I tend to play off the cuff, so I post whatever I had in mind without going back over it. I figure that way it's easier to be genuine. That seems to me like a good way to out the mafia; as their styles could change noticeably between crafted thoughts and their contrived-town-aligned ones. I suppose, that is unless, they come out of the gate carefully crafted and change little.

But that reminds me: the mafia have a much more complete picture of the game. While they don't know the SK or the town power roles, so their view will logically change little over time, while true town views should have more flexibility. One of the only times I recall a stuck suspicion being correct from beginning to end, was the people who suspected Abgemacht in M1.

Maybe I'm just reacting as much to my own getting lynched based significantly on a carryover suspicion on D2 M2 as to anything in this game, idk. What I do know is that I take every bandwagon, even those with only two (partially joking) votes behind them, with a grain of salt and a healthy dash of suspicion.

Regardless, I encourage as much spontaneous press that isn't filler from all of the town. More data only helps us.

Whoops, add YJ to the list of people who have made posts. Note that I did not differentiate on whether the posts made had any significant content to them.

Looking at the complete history is definitely not useless. We don't want to focus on the same players, but we should use all the information available.

Thanks Ghug for the vote - care to elaborate on the detail anymore?

"Jesus Fucking Christ! Mods! Do something about all these fucking Mafia threads! Three in as many fucking days!"

No.

- a mod

@Gtlbix - you're right, me calling out YJ was a bit illogocal. They didn't have logic on the syllabus at my Memphis School

@Warden - Chaqa has said "Oh, and I re-distributed all the roles.", so you can ignore that part of my post that singled certain professions out.

@Everyone - can you stop referring to me as Maniac whilst I'm in game please - I'm a method actor and I have to immerse myself in the role. Henceforth I am Luke [REDACTED} IV, 23 next birthday, I've lived in Jefferson Village since I seetled here as a small boy (apart from my time away at Uni), I'm engaged to be married and like to watch the stars at night from atop of Cherry Hill.

I was (I think obviously) joking about pjman all of last game and in some sense at the start of this game, but I actually do think he has the most suspicious posts so far, which is something to watch. It could just be a style thing with the way he writes posts, as I thought (correctly, although that may have been a coincidence) that he was mafia in Mafia II. Not ready to vote for anyone yet, though.

Process question: When I was detective in mafia II, I tried to breadcrumb that SocDiss was innocent, which obviously didn't end up working. I was wondering what everyone thought about something like everyone at the end of the night posting "If I were detective, I would have scanned X, Y, and Z so far" or something. I think that specifically is probably bad, but it seems possible that there is a different better statement.

Dang it Semeck! I was gonna enjoy playing as mafia last game, but you had to ruin the fun... :(

Now I'm back to being a boring vanilla Towny. Bleh...

If anyone's curious, here were the roles in the original setup. Everyone got re-rolled, so this is fair game for me to post, and now we have another vanilla town member.

Vanilla Town -
ROOSTER COGBURN (TRUE GRIT): semck83
ETHAN EDWARDS (THE SEARCHERS): dr_octagonapus
COLE THORNTON (EL DORADO): Squigs44
JOHN CHISUM (CHISUM): guak
G.W. MCCLINTOCK (McClintock): uclabb
JOHN ELDER (SONS OF KATIE ELDER): pjmansfield99
JAKE CUTTER (THE COMANCHEROS): captainmeme

Town Power Roles -
SHERIFF BART (COP/SHERIFF): Maniac
KING SCHULTZ (DOCTOR): WardenDresden
ROLAND OF GILEAD (GUNSLINGER): VashtaNeurotic

Rough Riders -
BEN WADE (3:10 TO YUMA) : Slyguy270
ANGEL EYES (THE GOOD, THE BAD, AND THE UGLY): Yellowjacket
RAMON ROJO (FISTFUL OF DOLLARS) : President Eden

Serial Killer -
THE SCOURGE OF JEFFERSON VILLAGE : ghug

'Twas a joke PJ. With the added benefit of burning a bit of a fire under someone (you) to get you to start working Vote is very much subject to change.

Ok, now that last game's stuff did get revealed after all, @uclabb, I was very unhappy that you said I was the doc within 2 hours of the game starting. I mean, really. :S

I was so excited to kill you all :(

##VOTE Slyguy270

someone bw with me this guy is 110% scum i guarantee it #GeorgeZimmer

"Now I'm back to being a boring vanilla Towny. Bleh..."

don't believe his lies

Oh dear, here we go...

It's like déjà vu all over again.

##VOTE President

Because he's dangerous. And who here doesn't want to hang the president anyway???

@Warden- Haha nice. Who says we can't get reads in the first few hours?

Also kudos to PE about being proactive about lying about your role. Too bad it didn't work.

it was the only conceivable out we had imo

and lmfao @ the revenge vote

All the men were talking in saloon, trying to find the rough riders among them when suddenly they heard a gunshot. Moments later a gust blew the saloon doors open. In stepped a man clad in ragged dusty clothes, strangely enough it looked like he had a new hat on. He had a strange feeling he had done this before. At the table there were four men drinking tea, "Brits," the stranger muttered, "I hate Brits."
The first man to approach the stranger the stranger was Warden, "Hello, stranger, that is an awfully nice hat."
The stranger replied, "It's a Stetson. I wear Stetsons now, Stesons are cool."
"And where did you get it?" Warden inquired.
"Off a man who won't be needing it anymore." He moved to the right to reveal the corpse of krellin, the town drunk. "The bastard tried to kill me, fortunately he wasn't too coordinated. Anyway, I've been listening to your conversation, very enlightening stuff. I believe I can help." He said as he took a seat.
"What can you tell us, stranger?" asked PE.
"Well, I can tell you that you have not said nearly enough my friend. And I believe that that man" he jestured to Warden, "is likely innocent. I don't have too much to say about anyone else."
On the inside the rough riders and the serial killer sighed with relief. "However", said the stranger pulling out his gun, I'm going to keep an eye on this man, raising his gun toward ghug, "he thinks it's funny to try to get a man killed, I don't like that."
Chaqa, the barkeep chimed in, "Sir we do not allow bloodshed in this saloon, that's why we hang people from the gallows, no blood." The stranger smiled. Chaqa continued, "anyway what is your name?"
"Vashta Neurotic, but you can call me Vash." He turned his head to the man next to him, Luke [Redacted] IV, who was smiling like a Maniac. "Funny thing about mafia, first come smiles, then come lies, and it all ends in gunfire."

Alright, jokes aside, I find Warden the most suspicious right now because of his misrepresenting obvious silliness and a nonsense townread on semck. I'm not going to vote for him yet, because I was one of the main catalysts in lynching him for obvious silliness last game, and because I think I might just find his play style suspicious in general.

"I encourage as much spontaneous press that isn't filler from all of the town"

This is difficult because there's not a lot to talk about... I want a discussion to get going so that I can examine people's press then contribute productively, but in order to contribute productively there needs to be a discussion first, which means the discussion can't be about who is mafia because there needs to have been a discussion first to be able to tell this...

Ugh.

We need something relevant to the game to discuss first, that we have enough information about to contribute productively, like the first-day lynch was in the first and second games. Unfortunately that's not an option here because (as far as I can tell) everyone thinks the same thing.

So, here's one for everyone - should we start a pile-on early on or not? It seems people are not voting for the same person as anyone else is because they are worried about looking like mafia by piling on, but I reckon an early pile-on would be a good way to get info on people's voting behaviour, even if the vote isn't kept on that person.

Just re-read that and it's terribly worded, but I can't think how to reword it so I'm leaving it like that. I hope it is clear enough :)