@SD,

if it went to a majority of votes cast in the subcommittee, wouldn't the first person to vote end the voting? Or are you saying within the 2 hour window? If so, I was thinking of an untimed situation, but yeah, timing it would work just as well I think, as long as it didn't remove people's votes (or default them) for not being there.

I still think I'd prefer to require a majority of those who have voted so far, though. Imagine that you vote yes on a proposition and then go away for three hours and come back to find that it went into subcommittee and came out and it's another poposition and you never got a chance to say why you didn't want the changes? Early participation should be rewarded by input at that stage, imho. But maybe there could be a cap of somewhat longer than 2 hours.

within the 2 hour window? i do see strong merit to what you're saying, but think we need a time cap (even if it is longer than 2 hours). so how about a majority of those who had voted thus far, with a timelimit of 6 hours? or 12 hours?

I think six would be better.

Yea to semck if it's still up.

So you want 6 hour on both sections of the subcommittee?

Nay to semck's proposal. I believe that is a fail.

ghug's proposal: layers can form coalitions. Coalitions are groups of players who can win together. The winning condition of a coalition is 1.5 times the sum of the winning conditions of the constituents rounded up to the nearest integer. Coalitions are allowed to add and remove players, disband, and make internal rules of governance. Players in coalitions maintain their individual votes unless otherwise dictated. All members of a potential coalition must consent to its creation and the addition of any future members must come with the consent of the added player. Any addition or removal of a player to or from a coalition must follow any rules the coalition has created to govern additions and removals. A player must forfeit all nomic points to his coalition upon joining, as well as any nomic points which might be gained while a member of said coalition. A coalition has the right to redistribute the points of the players upon a player's leaving of the coalition or the coalition's disbandment. No coalition may comprise more than half of the players in the game

Nay to ghug's proposal.

Hmm....my vote depends. Kasi, will you be my friend?
Also, can we get a point count.

And ghug as well, I mean, you did vouch for me?

I'd be glad to be your friend, Vash.

I vote aye to ghug's proposal, although I am unlikely to have very many friends... :(

Aww...thanks, ghug. I vote aye.

And I will do a points update if I have time in the next little bit.

I don't know if we are ready for this yet. Its a great idea but perhaps we should have some time to get a few more bugs ironed out before starting somthing as complicated as this. Thoughts?

nay to ghug

Its getting late I'm headed to bed if it is still being voted on tomarrow then I'll vote.

I dont think this is too complicated. And with the way things are going, I dont know if we are going to get around to this again for a while if it doesnt pass now. It is a fun idea, and adds a new dynamic to the game. Do you join a coalition (and get more voting power) or do you stay single to have a lower winning condition? Whose coalition do you join?? What inner-coalition rules can you come up with?? Inner-coalition governments with special names or powers??

Nomic pointz update!!

kasimax - 94
ghug -71
ag7433 - 60
guak - 57
ezra willis - 54
semck83 - 50
SD - 7
Jamiet99uk - 2
Squigs44 - 2
Atrum -2
VashtaNeurotic - 1
PE - 0

Current proposal: layers can form coalitions. Coalitions are groups of players who can win together. The winning condition of a coalition is 1.5 times the sum of the winning conditions of the constituents rounded up to the nearest integer. Coalitions are allowed to add and remove players, disband, and make internal rules of governance. Players in coalitions maintain their individual votes unless otherwise dictated. All members of a potential coalition must consent to its creation and the addition of any future members must come with the consent of the added player. Any addition or removal of a player to or from a coalition must follow any rules the coalition has created to govern additions and removals. A player must forfeit all nomic points to his coalition upon joining, as well as any nomic points which might be gained while a member of said coalition. A coalition has the right to redistribute the points of the players upon a player's leaving of the coalition or the coalition's disbandment. No coalition may comprise more than half of the players in the game
(proposed by ghug)

aye: ghug, Squigs, Vashta
nay: ag, guak

We havent passed a new rule in a while. This could be the one. Just vote aye fellow nomic members.

nay. we will pass a different one soon, not passing a rule for the sake of it!

I am not passing it for the sake of passing it. I have already stated why I think we should pass it. Why did you vote nay??

Why don't you like it, SD? It sounds like you're voting against it for the sake of not passing it.

I have a proposal to add to the queue: Should player fail to post in this thread, within 24 hours of their last post, they will be expelled from the game, their pointz will be split evenly among the remaining players (rounded down in the case of an uneven split), and may only re-enter the game (with 0 pointz) through a proposal by a current member of the game.

Thank you Vashta, I was going to propose that when my current proposal was resolved. +1 for you.

An excellent proposal.

I feel that coalitions undermine the unity of my nomic member brothers.

I do like your proposal but feel that 24 hours is a bit short for an out and out expulsion, i think 24 hours - temporary loss of voting rights, 48 hours explulsion, but it's your proposal!

also, has rule 10 not led to the automatic rejection of your proposal? are we not onto: SD: any future proposals must be accompanied with an explanation of how the proposal, if passed, would contribute to the good of us, the nomic members
?

Of mine? My proposal has only been active for a few hours.