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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Nominations for The Greatest Musician/Musical Act of All-Time
To get away for awhile from fights over foreign fights and people being X'd out here (please don't smite me, Maniac!) we begin the follow-up to our Greatest Author of All-Time Tournament with the search for the Greatest Musician/Musical Act of All-Time! Regional groups this time, US/UK/Europe/World (unless someone has a better grouping plan.) Either way, once again, everyone gets 4 noms, and we'll start when we fill out our Bracket of 64, 16 per group. Go! :)
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
So are we good to go?
Not quite sure. I am a bit miffed that Yonni decide to boot Heart, a female rock band that has earned a spot in the Hall of Fame. Though someone has to be removed from that brackett, I would prefer it be some group with less chance to win, like Big Star.
ghug (5068 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Big Star > Heart
kasimax (243 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
(+1)
big star > white dwarf
Perhaps we can have a play-in round?
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
Lol, this is going to go on forever if we do that, I think...
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
I mean, we've already let 128 in...
I meant just one match, between Heart and Big Star(since I called them out). Though I can't believe I missed Lenny Kravitz.
Only because Heart was in, but got booted by Yonni so the brackets would work. We could include it with one of the first round matchups (since we will probably do two at a time anyway).
ghug (5068 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Were any of Yonni's nominations in that group? We should probably remove one of his instead, since he just added a few.
ghug (5068 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Yeah, he nominated Zappa. If he wants to nominate new bands to make it work, he has to remove one of his own. I've made that replacement and randomized each subbracket:

**Mid 90s - Present**
1. New Pornographers
2. Daft Punk
3. Good Charlotte
4. Jack White
5. Jay-Z
6. System of a Down
7. The Mars Volta
8. Straight No Chaser
9. Spoon
10. Alt-J
11. Wilco
12. Eminem
13. The Killers
14. Creed
15. LCD Soundsystem
16. Built to Spill
17. The Decemberists
18. Fall Out Boy
19. 3 Doors Down
20. Rise Against
21. Laura Jane Grace
22. Skunk Anansie
23. Björk
24. Queens of the Stone Age
25. 30 Seconds to Mars
26. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
27. Turisas
28. Lady Gaga
29. Arcade Fire
30. Animal Collective
31. Otep Shamaya
32. Kanye West

**80s - Mid 90s**
1. Portishead
2. The Pet Shop Boys
3. The Mountain Goats
4. Slayer
5. Pantera
6. Public Enemy
7. Green Day
8. REM
9. Radiohead
10. Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
11. Stevie Ray Vaughn
12. Billy Joel
13. Iron Maiden
14. Family Force 5
15. Phil Collins
16. Dire Straits
17. The Smiths
18. The Stone Roses
19. Phish
20. Journey
21. The Beastie Boys
22. U2
23. Tupac
24. Jeff Buckley
25. Red Hot Chili Peppers
26. Nine Inch Nails
27. Eurythmics
28. Metallica
29. Nirvana
30. Dave Matthews
31. Propagandhi
32. Foo Fighters

**60s - 70s**
1. Frankie Valli
2. Sting
3. The Who
4. The Rolling Stones
5. AC/DC
6. Grateful Dead
7. The Kinks
8. Tom Petty
9. Bob Marley
10. Bob Dylan
11. Aretha Franklin
12. Queen
13. Bruce Springsteen
14. Paul Simon
15. Elton John
16. Creedence Clearwater Revival
17. Janis Joplin
18. Eric Clapton
19. The Beatles
20. Michael Jackson
21. The Beach Boys
22. Jimi Hendrix
23. Falco
24. Led Zeppelin
25. The Eagles
26. Heart
27. David Bowie
28. Big Star
29. Anti-Flag
30. Pink Floyd
31. Velvet Underground
32. Black Sabbath

**Pre 1960**
1. Gershwin
2. Frank Sinatra
3. Sam Cooke
4. Elvis Presley
5. Liszt
6. Chopin
7. Puccini
8. Robert Johnson
9. Edith Piaf
10. Etta James
11. Cole Porter
12. Charles Mingus
13. Maurice Andre
14. Vivaldi
15. James Brown
16. Hank Williams
17. Woody Guthrie
18. Mahler
19. Louis Armstrong
20. Pete Seeger
21. Brahms
22. Thelonious Monk
23. Beethoven
24. Miles Davis
25. BB King
26. Tchaikovsky
27. Bach
28. Mozart
29. Johnny Cash
30. Schumann
31. Billie Holiday
32. Buddy Holly
Yonni (136 D(S))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Alright, take out Zappa. But I stand by my fuck Heart sentiment.

I actually just chose heart because I figured they'd have little chance to win but I may have missed judged. No harm meant.
rojimy1123 (597 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
I abstain from the Creed/3 Doors Down match-up on general principles.
We now need obi to officially set-up the tourney.
obiwanobiwan (248 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
OK, I'll copy-paste those, and we'll get started...I guess we'll go one group at a time--

Any preferences which to start with?
mendax (321 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
(+1)
Not sure what Anti-Flag are doing in 60s - 70s, since they were formed in 88...
rojimy1123 (597 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
Chronological order?
rojimy1123 (597 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
I think you could probably switch Dire Straits with Anti-Flag since a good portion of their best work was in the 70's.
@Yonni: It's okay. I have faith in my selections.
Also, switching Sire Straits and Anti-Flag seems like a good idea.
Should we take bets on who we think will win?
The brackets are going to be off anyway. I consider Falco to be 80s, but he is in the 60s/70s brackett.
ghug (5068 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Yeah, Dire Straits/Anti-Flag seems like a good switch.
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
31 Jul 14 UTC
getting confusing
ghug (5068 D(B))
31 Jul 14 UTC
No it's not. Obi, here's your list, let's get this started.

**Mid 90s - Present**
1. New Pornographers
2. Daft Punk
3. Good Charlotte
4. Jack White
5. Jay-Z
6. System of a Down
7. The Mars Volta
8. Straight No Chaser
9. Spoon
10. Alt-J
11. Wilco
12. Eminem
13. The Killers
14. Creed
15. LCD Soundsystem
16. Built to Spill
17. The Decemberists
18. Fall Out Boy
19. 3 Doors Down
20. Rise Against
21. Laura Jane Grace
22. Skunk Anansie
23. Björk
24. Queens of the Stone Age
25. 30 Seconds to Mars
26. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
27. Turisas
28. Lady Gaga
29. Arcade Fire
30. Animal Collective
31. Otep Shamaya
32. Kanye West

**80s - Mid 90s**
1. Portishead
2. The Pet Shop Boys
3. The Mountain Goats
4. Slayer
5. Pantera
6. Public Enemy
7. Green Day
8. REM
9. Radiohead
10. Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
11. Stevie Ray Vaughn
12. Billy Joel
13. Iron Maiden
14. Family Force 5
15. Phil Collins
16. Anti-Flag
17. The Smiths
18. The Stone Roses
19. Phish
20. Journey
21. The Beastie Boys
22. U2
23. Tupac
24. Jeff Buckley
25. Red Hot Chili Peppers
26. Nine Inch Nails
27. Eurythmics
28. Metallica
29. Nirvana
30. Dave Matthews
31. Propagandhi
32. Foo Fighters

**60s - 70s**
1. Frankie Valli
2. Sting
3. The Who
4. The Rolling Stones
5. AC/DC
6. Grateful Dead
7. The Kinks
8. Tom Petty
9. Bob Marley
10. Bob Dylan
11. Aretha Franklin
12. Queen
13. Bruce Springsteen
14. Paul Simon
15. Elton John
16. Creedence Clearwater Revival
17. Janis Joplin
18. Eric Clapton
19. The Beatles
20. Michael Jackson
21. The Beach Boys
22. Jimi Hendrix
23. Falco
24. Led Zeppelin
25. The Eagles
26. Heart
27. David Bowie
28. Big Star
29. Dire Straits
30. Pink Floyd
31. Velvet Underground
32. Black Sabbath

**Pre 1960**
1. Gershwin
2. Frank Sinatra
3. Sam Cooke
4. Elvis Presley
5. Liszt
6. Chopin
7. Puccini
8. Robert Johnson
9. Edith Piaf
10. Etta James
11. Cole Porter
12. Charles Mingus
13. Maurice Andre
14. Vivaldi
15. James Brown
16. Hank Williams
17. Woody Guthrie
18. Mahler
19. Louis Armstrong
20. Pete Seeger
21. Brahms
22. Thelonious Monk
23. Beethoven
24. Miles Davis
25. BB King
26. Tchaikovsky
27. Bach
28. Mozart
29. Johnny Cash
30. Schumann
31. Billie Holiday
32. Buddy Holly
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
31 Jul 14 UTC
WHOA foo fighters should not be seeded 32nd
The seeding is random, not based upon any ranking system.
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
31 Jul 14 UTC
ok good
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
31 Jul 14 UTC
Each of the 32s are going to beat the 1s.. lol...
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
31 Jul 14 UTC
Eh, Portishead has a good shot.
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
31 Jul 14 UTC
no.....not against my Foo

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28 Jul 14 UTC
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jimbursch (100 D)
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How do I get the correct password?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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I remember seeing some Diplomacy position problems that a webdip user had put together (eg: "given this position, and a hostile Germany and France, how can England keep London?"). Does anyone have a link to this? Or to a similar resource?
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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guak (3381 D)
28 Jul 14 UTC
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JamesYanik (548 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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30 Jul 14 UTC
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