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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
Nominations for The Greatest Musician/Musical Act of All-Time
To get away for awhile from fights over foreign fights and people being X'd out here (please don't smite me, Maniac!) we begin the follow-up to our Greatest Author of All-Time Tournament with the search for the Greatest Musician/Musical Act of All-Time! Regional groups this time, US/UK/Europe/World (unless someone has a better grouping plan.) Either way, once again, everyone gets 4 noms, and we'll start when we fill out our Bracket of 64, 16 per group. Go! :)
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Jul 14 UTC
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Would you be happier if I replaced Green Day with Evanescence or is that too much eyeshadow for you..
Switching Tech N9ne to Creed

Commence the mad
Putin33 (111 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
(+2)
Nickelback didn't make it, I thought for sure Obi would defend their honor.
Okay, should we combine Raconteurs and The White Stripes into Jack White and take a consensus on the final slot.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Jul 14 UTC
We could just roll with it and give someone a bye, who cares at this point..
VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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Well, we could fill the slot with Nickleback (which is essentially a bye anyway).
nb4 15-page shitstorm about who gets the bye
lmfao +1 Vash
semck83 (229 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Nobody has nominated Dire Straits. :(
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Vash just won this thread >_>
ok my vote for the final spot is for Dire Straits then

#AnythingButNickelback
semck83 (229 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Yeah, PE!

And I've only nominated four, so I also say Dire Straits, if I have any say on the spot.
Any objections to Dire Straits? Because I can put up the tenative list with that in there, and all we will need is obi's approval whenever he checks back.
semck83 (229 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Not really, even though I'm also sad Oasis isn't on there. But yeah, let's say Dire Straits.
Tenative List:
1. Bob Dylan
2. Billy Joel
3. Kanye West
4. Sam Cooke
5. Lady Gaga
6. The Beatles
7. Led Zeppelin
8. Mozart
9. Puccini
10. Vivaldi
11. Tchaikovsky
12. Nirvana
13. Marshall Mathers
14. 30 Seconds to Mars
15. The Mountain Goats
16. Jack White
17. The Decemberists
18. Big Star
19. Queen
20. Beethoven
21. Creedence Clearwater Revival
22. Brahms
23. Johnny Cash
24. Black Sabbath
25. Bob Marley
26. U2
27. David Bowie
28. Green Day
29. James Brown
30. The Eagles
31. Tupac
32. Frank Sinatra
33. Grateful Dead
34. The Who
35. Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
36. Straight No Chaser
37. Mahler
38. Pink Floyd
39. Dave Matthews
40. Paul Simon
41. Bach
42. Frankie Valli
43. Red Hot Chili Peppers
44. Otep Shamaya
45. Anti-Flag
46. Laura Jane Grace
47. Bruce Springsteen
48. Elvis Presley
49. Etta James
50. Aretha Franklin
51. Phil Collins
52. Sting
53. Stevie Ray Vaughn
54. Iron Maiden
55. Jay-Z
56. Janis Joplin
57. Metallica
58. Creed
59. Falco
60. Chopin
61. Godspeed You! Black Emperor
62. The Mars Volta
63. System of a Down
64. Slayer
65. Woody Guthrie
66. Hank Williams
67. BB King
68. Elton John
69. Daft Punk
70. Public Enemy
71. Eurythmics (formerly Ravi Shankar)
72. New Pornographers
73. Robert Johnson
74. Spoon
75. Jimi Hendrix
76. Schumann
77. Liszt
78. Louis Armstrong
79. Billie Holiday
80. Gershwin
81. Cole Porter
82. The Rolling Stones
83. Edith Piaf
84. Animal Collective
85. LCD Soundsystem
86. Frank Zappa
87. Arcade Fire
88. Journey
89. Maurice Andre
90. Miles Davis
91. Thelonious Monk
92. Radiohead
93. REM
94. The Stone Roses
95. The Smiths
96. The Pet Shop Boys
97. The Beastie Boys
98. The Beach Boys
99. The Kinks
100. Tom Petty
101. Rise Against
102. Pantera
103. Turisas
104. Propagandhi
105. Phish
106. Foo Fighters
107. AC/DC
108. Fall Out Boy
109. Family Force 5
110. Portishead
111. Björk
112. Jeff Buckley
113. Skunk Anansie
114. 3 Doors Down
115. Good Charlotte
116. The Killers
117. Velvet Underground
118. Dire Straits
119. Wilco
120. Alt-J
121. Queens of the Stone Age
122. Built to Spill
123. Charles Mingus
124. Paul Simon
125. Eric Clapton
126. Michael Jackson
127. Heart
128. Nine Inch Nails

Any objections/changes?
Squigs44 (273 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
Question: How does seeding work?? Randomly, in the order above ^, voting, Obi's bias, or none of the above??
Random is the only way that makes sense imo. If we could seed them in a determinate order 1-128, there'd be no point to the tournament.
Putin33 (111 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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This would be a great use of a 128-sided die.

https://www.wizards.com/dnd/dice/dice.htm
semck83 (229 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
We're still doing categories, right?
kasimax (243 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
if we need it, i just randomized the list with random.org:

U2
The Pet Shop Boys
New Pornographers
Hank Williams
Louis Armstrong
Tchaikovsky
Eric Clapton
The Smiths
Thelonious Monk
Iron Maiden
Tupac
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Straight No Chaser
Eurythmics (formerly Ravi Shankar)
Heart
Frank Sinatra
Edith Piaf
Miles Davis
Built to Spill
Kanye West
The Who
The Kinks
Mozart
Beethoven
Radiohead
Foo Fighters
Frankie Valli
The Beach Boys
Jack White
Laura Jane Grace
The Mountain Goats
Led Zeppelin
The Stone Roses
Phil Collins
Bruce Springsteen
Rise Against
Creed
Queens of the Stone Age
David Bowie
Pink Floyd
Jay-Z
Elvis Presley
AC/DC
Nine Inch Nails
Portishead
Tom Petty
The Rolling Stones
Billy Joel
Bach
Nirvana
Etta James
Woody Guthrie
Liszt
The Beatles
Schumann
Brahms
Björk
Wilco
The Killers
BB King
3 Doors Down
Grateful Dead
Paul Simon
Johnny Cash
Paul Simon
Bob Marley
The Mars Volta
Mahler
Big Star
Daft Punk
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Skunk Anansie
Jimi Hendrix
Vivaldi
Michael Jackson
The Beastie Boys
The Eagles
Public Enemy
Bob Dylan
Charles Mingus
Gershwin
Velvet Underground
The Decemberists
Otep Shamaya
Marshall Mathers
Jeff Buckley
Metallica
Spoon
Black Sabbath
Maurice Andre
Good Charlotte
Slayer
Propagandhi
Falco
Sting
Aretha Franklin
Frank Zappa
Arcade Fire
LCD Soundsystem
Green Day
Billie Holiday
Pantera
Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
Puccini
Robert Johnson
Cole Porter
Animal Collective
Dave Matthews
James Brown
Turisas
Family Force 5
Alt-J
Dire Straits
Queen
System of a Down
30 Seconds to Mars
Lady Gaga
REM
Fall Out Boy
Janis Joplin
Chopin
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
Sam Cooke
Journey
Phish
Anti-Flag
Elton John
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
yeah, I think we should put nickelback and Lincoln park in here
semck83 (229 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
What happened to categorizing them?
Yonni (136 D(S))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Paul Simon is on the list twice.
Yonni (136 D(S))
30 Jul 14 UTC
(+1)
So, I split it up by era the best I could. Obviously some of the fits aren't perfect. Also, we have 1 too many from 60s/70s and 2 too few from pre 1960.

I added Pete Seeger and Buddy Holly and removed Heart because fuck Heart. Feel free to change it if you like.

**Mid 90s - present**
Straight No Chaser
Kanye West
Eminem
Jack White
Laura Jane Grace
Rise Against
Queens of the Stone Age
Jay-Z
Wilco
The Killers
3 Doors Down
The Mars Volta
Daft Punk
The Decemberists
Otep Shamaya
Spoon
Good Charlotte
Arcade Fire
LCD Soundsystem
Animal Collective
Turisas
Alt-J
System of a Down
30 Seconds to Mars
Lady Gaga
Fall Out Boy
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
New Pornographers
Built to Spill
Creed
Björk
Skunk Anansie

**80-Mid 90s**
U2
The Pet Shop Boys
The Smiths
Iron Maiden
Eurythmics
The Stone Roses
Phil Collins
Billy Joel
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Slayer
Pantera
Dire Straits
REM
Journey
Metallica
Public Enemy
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Phish
The Beastie Boys
Tupac
Nirvana
Nine Inch Nails
Portishead
Green Day
Dave Matthews
Foo Fighters
Jeff Buckley
Propagandhi
Israel Kamakawiwo'ole
Family Force 5
The Mountain Goats
Radiohead

**60s/70s**
Eric Clapton
The Who
The Kinks
Frankie Valli
The Beach Boys
The Beatles
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Dylan
Velvet Underground
Aretha Franklin
Janis Joplin
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Led Zeppelin
Bruce Springsteen
David Bowie
Pink Floyd
Tom Petty
The Rolling Stones
Grateful Dead
Paul Simon
Big Star
The Eagles
Black Sabbath
Frank Zappa
Queen
Anti-Flag
Elton John
Falco
Sting
Michael Jackson
Bob Marley
AC/DC

**<1960**
Hank Williams
Louis Armstrong
Thelonious Monk
Frank Sinatra
Edith Piaf
Miles Davis
Elvis Presley
Woody Guthrie
BB King
Johnny Cash
Charles Mingus
Gershwin
Maurice Andre
Billie Holiday
Robert Johnson
Cole Porter
James Brown
Sam Cooke
Tchaikovsky
Mozart
Beethoven
Bach
Liszt
Schumann
Brahms
Mahler
Vivaldi
Puccini
Chopin
Etta James
Pete Seeger
Buddy Holly
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
oooo I didn't know system of a down was in there......sweeet
CommanderByron (801 D(S))
30 Jul 14 UTC
Going to be some hard fought battle there. Really good music all around.
Wait...Phish is still on there, but you decided to go "fuck Heart". That is cold man.
Though I do appreciate the organization.
rojimy1123 (597 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
To be fair, each member of Phish has a degree in music, and they are very skilled. Long jams and nonsense lyrics just don't appeal to everyone.
ERAUfan97 (549 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
bump

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oscarjd74 (100 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
31 Jul 14 UTC
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How do YOU like to juggernaut?
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30 Jul 14 UTC
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dirge (768 D(B))
30 Jul 14 UTC
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question inside
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SYnapse (0 DX)
23 Jul 14 UTC
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After *that* move where you get 2/3 centres and suddenly look like you're set for a solo: how do you convince the other players not to turn on you yet?
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THELEGION (0 DX)
30 Jul 14 UTC
q&a
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30 Jul 14 UTC
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Media is media; I'm struggling to comprehend if this outbreak is even worth keeping up on.
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kilaka (100 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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I'm confused, on this site, there's spring and autumn. What happened to Winter?
When is the supply center gained?
Also, do I need a unit to phisycally exist in the supply center's country during the gain phase? Or perhaps it's enough that the unit passed there before?
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kilaka (100 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
Simulation
I have a strange situation - attacks from several places. Can I simulate it somewhere?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Jul 14 UTC
Science, Engineering, and Math
I thought this question was interesting enough to warrant its own discussion? Should math be considered a science? What about engineering? Where does applied science end and engineering begin? Thoughts?
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jimbursch (100 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
how to get pw to take over for left player
Noob here -- I'm interested in taking over England for this game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=144388#gamePanel

How do I get the correct password?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
Diplomacy problems
I remember seeing some Diplomacy position problems that a webdip user had put together (eg: "given this position, and a hostile Germany and France, how can England keep London?"). Does anyone have a link to this? Or to a similar resource?
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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
Cu Chulain vs. The Hulk
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guak (3381 D)
28 Jul 14 UTC
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New Proposed Feature
I was wondering if any of you coders out there can code a new feature that allows a player to repeat the previous phase's moves. This would be really useful when playing stalemate games that are drawn out by one player attempting to break through, hoping for an NMR or waiting for others to be taken out of the draw. It gets very boring sometimes to enter the same moves repeatedly and helps to avoid careless mistakes.
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JamesYanik (548 D)
30 Jul 14 UTC
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New Map Idea
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
28 Jul 14 UTC
The "Rejuvenation & Growth" thread ....
..... please keep us all informed of latest activity.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
30 Jul 14 UTC
How's the weather?
Let's have a nice, pleasant, daisy-filled conversation. Pomf. :3
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THELEGION (0 DX)
28 Jul 14 UTC
Come check it out (the actual ad zultar)
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Socrates Dissatisfied (1727 D)
28 Jul 14 UTC
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All the recent departures... Possible amnesty?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
29 Jul 14 UTC
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oscarjd74 (100 D)
29 Jul 14 UTC
Sarah Palin's online "news" channel
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/28/us/palin-news-channel/index.html

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kilaka (100 D)
29 Jul 14 UTC
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josunice (3702 D(S))
25 Jul 14 UTC
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guak (3381 D)
29 Jul 14 UTC
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THELEGION (0 DX)
28 Jul 14 UTC
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ghug (5068 D(B))
28 Jul 14 UTC
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Sevyas (973 D)
27 Jul 14 UTC
wta, full press, 30points, 36-48hrs, semi-anon
I m looking for 6 reliable players for a game.
'Reliable' as in 'will not nmr', 'will not cd', 'will not turn out to be a multi in the middle of the game' and 'will respect the site rules and guidelines so I wont get banned in the middle of the game'. Signups here.
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Thucydides (864 D(B))
29 Jul 14 UTC
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Brothers and sisters, fellow diplomats:
I will return, and when I am come, the Forum shall have its Voice again. Yes, a Voice calls from the wilderness... Strain your ear and listen:

"whose dragnar is he knew lul"
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ameya95 (100 D)
29 Jul 14 UTC
need 4 players
Game name - sukla
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