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Asriel Belacqua (285 D)
24 Mar 08 UTC
Can one...
take over a country in civil disorder in a game in which one has already been defeated as a different country? If so, how do you take over civil dis countries in private games?
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sean (3490 D(B))
19 Mar 08 UTC
Minor Bugs list
Now that it seems the bigger bugs are over has anyone noticed any wee small ones. here is a few non essential bugs.

1.when only 5 players join a game the system default "CD Germany" player is actually green and represents Italy while "CD Italy " is brown and if you click it you would end up playing Germany.
2. on the sign on page permanently is spelled permeanently.
3. when you convoy an army the sentence reads
The army at "X" move to "Y: via convoy via convoy.
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thewonderllama (100 D)
24 Mar 08 UTC
GFDT Round 2 Results
All of the round 2 games have completed and the tournament points calculated. The results are here!

(In first reply to reduce forum clutter.)

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positron (1160 D)
23 Mar 08 UTC
Payment to takeover a CD. Is it a bug?
I think that the payment to take over a CD should equal the payout if the game ended immediately.

Currently, this is not true. Not sure what the current logic is. There is a 10 SC country in CD, where the pot is 1015. The payment is 441. But (1015+441) * 10/34 = 428.24

I believe the calculation should be:

Payment = (SCs * pot) / (34 - SCs)

So that the payment is 423.
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TinTin (0 DX)
23 Mar 08 UTC
3 nations not moving! WTA TEN
3 countries are all one player and have not moved, and since they have been busted, they wont enter orders, making it hard for myself as turkey to get anywhere. The nations concerned are England, France and Italy. Kestas pl put them into cd??
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
23 Mar 08 UTC
16 pot, winner takes all
Just created a game named Oblique Flying Wing - 1.
Pot: 16
Style: winner takes all

Note: welcome anyone interested.
Thanks.
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fumica (100 D)
23 Mar 08 UTC
the great empire game has started
15 point game. I'm new so be gentle
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reptar_69 (122 D)
23 Mar 08 UTC
New Game - ycamolpiDphp_2.0
Pot is 25
Join if you like.
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canute (0 DX)
23 Mar 08 UTC
Urgent!! Pls move frozen game Humility forward
its been stuck for 2 whole days!
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TinTin (0 DX)
22 Mar 08 UTC
Cheat- WTA ten. Goddess
and her other alias' all playing as england, France and Italy. Kestas. Pl check it out?
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Wombat (722 D)
22 Mar 08 UTC
Wombat's apology
Dear All,

This is the real Wombat here. I realise that there has been a lot of discussion regarding the game Ng Wang Ho, which people have aparently been accusing of multi accounting or meta gaming etc.

Allow me to explain the situation. When the game started, Russia was quickly eliminated. Italy soon followed and then two main camps formed:
France and England; Turkey, Austria and Germany.

The moves throughout the game were admittedly very suspicious, with Turkey moving to Finland just to support Germnay, etc, but I suppose the strategy was based on a potential WW1 team strategy and also something with which to help thwart Salmaneser as France, who was then at 9 units and about to break through...

What happened next is that I had to go away for 'World individuals 2008, Germany' which is an international competition, and I could not afford to move during the duration of the competition. Knowing this is advance, I asked 3 of my friends to help me check my account occasionally to ensure that I did not miss turns or go CD, which is unfair to the other players of the game.

I chose multiple people to make sure that if one or two of them were busy, someone would aqlways be able to make my moves.

Unfortunately, although thingws have gone basically smoothly in other games, 'NG WANG HO' has a conflict of interest between Germany and Turkey, who both had acess to my account as a result of the above.

What then followed I had no control over, but I would like to apologise for the mess and the suspicion that has arisen over the game, and I would request Kestas if possible to simply redistribute the points out in to all the original players, and if not to simply draw it.

To avoid this kind of confusion again, I will not play in any games with my friends, except in private games.

Thank you and my apologies again.

Wombat [the real one]
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Stevelers (3084 D(G))
22 Mar 08 UTC
How can someone win with 31 SC's? Looks like metagaming to me...
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3115

Turkey moved their units to exactly the right spots for Russia to gain as many SC's as possible. Something doesn't add up. When I was eliminated, Russia and Turkey each had 17 SC's, then, for some reason, Turkey allowed Russia to gain more SC's in this Points Per Supply Center game. Just wondering what others think about this.
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kestasjk (95 DMod(P))
22 Mar 08 UTC
Downtime
There was a lot of downtime today; Dreamhost moved one of their clusters and lots of their main servers to a new datacenter, and a router problem went with it, causing ~10 hours of downtime. But games were still processing, because the servers were only inaccessible from the outside, and phpDip runs the process scripts by itself. This means games may have processed before people had a chance to post orders

So this leaves me with 2 choices;
- back up to 7 hours ago (from the time of this post). This will probably mean most games won't have been processed, but people may have a chance to see the results of orders that were entered, and change their orders accordingly
- Carry on; this would be better if there weren't many people who couldn't make orders, as it would result in the fewest problems with people seeing orders etc

Sorry about this, on Dreamhost's behalf, they have been making a lot of mistakes recently but they are the most stable hosting I can afford. In a future update I'll add a feature that'll allow the game processing script to recognize when the server has been down, and stop processing games
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bajeezus (574 D)
22 Mar 08 UTC
ChaChing!
105-pointer
points-per-SC

check it out!

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3318
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yeunghauyip (1654 D)
22 Mar 08 UTC
A DRAW
Kestas, please draw the game 'Ng Wang Ho', there are 3 of us left alive, with one away & the other 2 of us agreeing to the draw.

http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=2766
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anlari (8640 D)
20 Mar 08 UTC
Changing Password
Sorry but I couldn't find a way to do it.. How?
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flamengo (0 DX)
20 Mar 08 UTC
multiplayer
In this game:
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3266&msgCountry=England

Austria of course is a multiplayer suiciding Austria to give the game to turkey.

What do you think. What a kind of strategy is that
?
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canute (0 DX)
22 Mar 08 UTC
Another Bug: Game Still Stuck
Humility. Turkey has no retreats but says it does? Bug...
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Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
meta gaming- xiangyu. guanshao. zalyana
these people write same and online together as well as play in same games. my little pony is one. kestas pl look
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Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
they admit always playin together too
XiangYu (144 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC

We speak the same, no - correction. We are all educated people, i don't consider that simularities with in our text.

As for the games, i openly admit we play in a few, thats not against any rules or regulations, and i will repeat yet again what i have said twice over.

Zalyana has played this for a long time, and she is only in 2 or 3 games with me and Guan Shao.

Guan Shao and myself have new accounts, and we are in a few of the same games because of the need of points, and because a lot needed 2 more people, so it was a good oppertuinity to set games up and running.

Your accuse us of what, cloning or meta gaming, prove this?

You asked me to kill russia to save you some trouble, but i'm at war with austria and france, tell me the logical explanation for attacking russia who i allied with, england made the same allies so she could help claim France.

Check all of our games, i have betrayed Guan Shao twice and i'm not even allied to Zalyana in the other games, so please - stop moaning and get over the fact that your plan for killing Russia failed.

Also, i play to win, if become diplomat ensures that victory, then i'll play diplomacy, if betrayal ensures victory, then i'll betray, but do not accuse me of meta-gaming unless you can fully prove it, i do not give people my SC's nor do i ever let them have stuff that wouldnt benefit me AT ALL...
Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
always allying and playing same games is considered meta gaming...
figlesquidge (2131 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Well, other people, I've looked at some of the games, and here are the simplistic views (as time posted):
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3200
>>England-Germany-Russia - seem allied
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3187
>>Germany-France and seem allied
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3202
>>Turkey-Austria-Italy Possibly Italy-turkey, but attacking Austria
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3238
>>France-Russia It's 1902 - come on, how could I know!
figlesquidge (2131 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Sorry, just to add, I think it should be noted that none of these are unlikely alliances. Indeed, they are quite common for 3-way alliances, and with the other nations starting moves not very surprising really.
XiangYu (144 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
I would name every game, and tell you exactly whats happening in each, but i lack the years required to try and get you to understand, so ... i'll keep you moaning and see what happens, you cant prove i'm meta gaming, because i'm playing my games rather well, bar 1.
Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
that speaks volumes
XiangYu (144 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC

And so does your pointless accusations, its really not my problem if your losing a game, is it?

so please, stop moaning...i beg thee, save me the bother of defending myself when i'm innocent of whatever crime you wish to bestow upon me xD.
Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
oh well... not finalizing will have to be punishment enough for now...
Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
oh i a. not losing.; 2 yr olds.. my my.
Zalyana (702 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Of the possible games that figlesquidge has pointed out, I am only in 3. I am playing 10 games at the moment. By what you are saying Kangaroo, no one on this game should ally with anyone more than once. And that is stupid, if you find a good ally of course you will want to ally again. There is no rule against that.

You also said that we "admit to always playing together too" which is a complete lie. We have played together in the past, but look at the games we are playing, Im in 10, like I just said, and only 3 of them are with these two people. So yeah, just because you are losing isn't cause to accuse people of metagaming.
XiangYu (144 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC

Can you tell whos the immature one out of us lot, oh well, you may hold up the game for as long as you want, your still going to die.
Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
why you stressing so much bout it if you are all innocent?
Zalyana (702 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Stressing? Whos stressing about this? We're just trying to show everyone how petty you are being.
XiangYu (144 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC

Haha, yeah none of us are stressing, in fact your the one who seems more agitated then us lot, because not only are you starting to lose a game, your accusations are failing because you have no proof, no evidence.

No nothing :) their just words, backed up by nothing but the reliability of your trust, and that my dear friend...was denied long ago :D
GuanShao (537 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Kangaroo: You are a simpleton. We are friends. When I play diplo amongst my group of table top gamers IRL, I often ally with people I know to be trustworthy.

I know Zalyanna and XiangYu personally outside of this game. We've decided to ally in a few games. As you can see, if you were smart, XiangYu has actually betrayed me in one of said games.

So, stop your whining, and figure out something better to accuse us on besides "OMG THEY ALLIED AGAINST ME!!!!!1!1!!1!one!"
Kangaroo (0 DX)
16 Mar 08 UTC
learn the difference between the use of their and they're pls! proof or not comes when kestas has a chance to check it out. meanwhile game goes on
GuanShao (537 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Spell out please, please! Also, capitalization, punctuation, and the like.

Stop trying to outline flaws just because you can never join another game with that account, because you only have 1 betting point.
XiangYu (144 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC

OMG, you're lecturing Guan Shao on grammatical accuracy when you sound like a 10 year old yourself! WTF is that all about dude.

i mean, at least Guan Shao knows what a comma is. >.>

Now quit your pointless bickering, and trust me, Kestas won't punish any of us for the accusations you have brought forward. Simple.
Smokodanko (618 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
Sick em Jen!

Uhh, those listed are dear acquaintances of mine, and I for one say this:

You, out there, calling them out! Yes, you, whoever you may be now, listen well.. is this not a game of fun?! Why do you think there is password protected games? Why do you think you hath to interfere between the fun of little games that friends play with each other? Are these matters not trivial enough?

You sir or madam are acting like the angry child who shoves the coveted board game off the table at the first sign of defeat.

Smokodanko (618 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
XiangYu sounds like a queerrahhh. >.>
Smokodanko (618 D)
16 Mar 08 UTC
My third and last post in this topic:
figlesquidge
Your not new to this, I'm pretty sure I remember you from way way back too. People can ally with whoever they wants, just because the alliance isn't likely to work or is a common one doesn't diddly-squat.

Nay?
Kangaroo (0 DX)
17 Mar 08 UTC
yawn
sean (3490 D(B))
17 Mar 08 UTC
xiang, guan,zalyana, i guess "yawn" is as much an apology as you are going to get from kanagroo.
this thread, RIP

GuanShao (537 D)
17 Mar 08 UTC
Kangaroo, you are a pathetic excuse for a human being, fyi.
Kangaroo (0 DX)
17 Mar 08 UTC
and as are you chinese murderer. leave tibet alone... since you wanna get personal; go eat a dog or shoot an unarmed protestor. you guys do that best lol
Kangaroo (0 DX)
17 Mar 08 UTC
3 asians getting personal over an innocent question; strikes me as an admission...
GuanShao (537 D)
17 Mar 08 UTC
I'm not Chinese, fyi. I actually live in upstate new York.

Also, Zalyanna isn't Chinese either, so, I guess maybe you should shut up before you go accusing people?

And an innocent Question? You've accused us of cheating. Thats not a question. There is no question in your OP.

"these people write same and online together as well as play in same games. my little pony is one. kestas pl look"

No question. No question WHATSOEVER. I'm a Caucasian Male from upstate new York. Name is Justin. If you seriously want my last name and where I live, hell, I'll give it to you.

Xiang Yu is from England, and Zalyanna is from... Michigan? Whats the problem with three friends playing the game? Just because you have none to play with does not mean accusing us is acceptable.
Justine (100 D)
17 Mar 08 UTC
There is no doubt that Zalyana is a meta-gamer. I took up a CD game from Fearless - presumably her fiancee/boyfriend - and I will present the evidence here:

(Conversation between Fearless, who went on CD, and Zalyana)

Sat 08 Mar Autumn 1903: Hey love, can you support my move into warsaw from ukraine? Thanks :)
Sun 09 Mar Autumn 1903: my moves this turn:
The army at Moscow move to St. Petersburg.
The fleet at Black Sea convoy the army at Constantinople to Sevastopol.
The army at Ukraine move to Warsaw.
The army at Rumania hold.
The army at Constantinople move to Black Sea by convoy.
The army at Sevastopol move to Moscow.
[...]

I am willing to provide screenshots to anyone who doesn't believe in what I say...

This 'couple', or, if I may suggest, the same person pretending to be a couple, were doing extremely well in the game Fearless Encounter "http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3109"
until Fearless (Austria) suddenly dropped out. He was on the lead with 9 supply centres when he left. Zalyana, as Turkey, logically inherited a considerable portion of his SCs....

As a player of this game, I don't find it particularly fair here...
GuanShao (537 D)
17 Mar 08 UTC
What is wrong with people who are friends allying each other? Its a non-private game, they should be able to do what they want.

Zalyana and Fearless are in fact a couple, who I know. You people are way too uptight about this "friends allying each other."

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Nick Douglas (408 D)
21 Mar 08 UTC
New 50-point game: Global chat only
Does what it says on the box. Winner-take-all.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3302
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mapleleaf (0 DX)
22 Mar 08 UTC
Winner take all game - low ante
Only ten points to join. Fun fun fun 'til your daddy takes the T-Bird away.....
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TinTin (0 DX)
21 Mar 08 UTC
Final Witness new game
bet 15- pls feel free to join
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canute (0 DX)
21 Mar 08 UTC
Humility game stuck!
is stuck in autumn retreat phase, though its already done, and it shows i have to enter orders by the red x but when i go into it. Says no orders this phase. Kestas please take look at it- thank you
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SmithWesson (100 D)
20 Mar 08 UTC
Someone back me up
In the game "le mer de vaches sort merde de vaches" (the only one I'm in) France is accusing me of not supporting his move to Belgium with my fleet in the North Sea for several turns in a row. The problem is that my order does not display on the small map (because it wasn't successful?) It does, however, display on the large map.

I'm posting here because I'd like to get some impartial parties to confirm what I'm saying.
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GuanShao (537 D)
20 Mar 08 UTC
Draw Game - Manekur
http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3090

draw between me and Italy.
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figlesquidge (2131 D)
19 Mar 08 UTC
Broadcast Game
I've got the time (finally) so here's my invite.
I want to set up a game where all chat goes through the 'all players' box.
Interested?
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Bertram (100 D)
21 Mar 08 UTC
army didn't build
http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=3039

I, playing as A-H, got the automated "build an army at Bud" message, but got it 2 times. Just to make sure things don't screw up, i un-finalized it and finalized. There we're still 2 identical messages.

Now I don't really care about that, but I have a problem with no army being built. Would the admins kindly fix this?
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karambas (152 D)
21 Mar 08 UTC
Join the game 1st time
The price is only 10
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alamothe (3367 D(B))
21 Mar 08 UTC
new game
please make a new 100+ WTA game
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sean (3490 D(B))
20 Mar 08 UTC
Draw request - TRIANGLE
ASIA WINS!
Austria and Germany declare victory in the team game triangle against TEAM USA (russia,england, italy ) and TEAM EURO (france , turkey).
but as team games are purely honour bound and not a part of phpdiplomacy (yet!) we will have to call it a draw.

http://phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=2940

germany agrees.
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