LGT huh. what you got against bi people?

Bi people don't play in the live game tournament because they only do full press and gunboat.

Game 1 is full! I see nothing wrong with trying for game 2.

This is probably too late, but are there any open spots still?

Yeah, you can jump in. I'll send you the info sometime today.

Game 2 has 3 spots left.

I'm not sure if this is a huge issue, but for future games could we have set to start at 6 EST? I can play at 5 either way it would just be much much better at 6 xD Just figured I'd ask, I'll make it either way.

There are a few issues I think are worth discussing too, but I'll hold off until tomorrow :). This is the first time a live game tournament has been attempted for some time, so a bit of tweaking as it progresses is to be expected

Yeah, I figure that's reasonable. I just wanted to make sure I brought it up before I forgot lol Good luck to everyone for this first game :D

Yeah, we can discuss things. I am happy to do that by email or on this thread, but since the tournament actually started, I think we should be fairly conscious of objections. If anyone has a problem with changing the start time, we can't do it.

Also, arj, I'll send you the info tonight. I haven't had a chance today. Sorry about that.

Thank bo, no worries. What time will the next game start?

Who's leading the scoreboard right now?

After a single game?

Current scores:

1.) Valis2501 - 18 - 0 win/1 draw/0 defeat
2.) wpfieps - 13 - 0/1/0
3.) Yoyoyozo - 5 - 0/1/0
4.) HappyThoughts - 1 - 0/1/0
5.) eliwhitney - 0 - 0/0/1
5.) achillies27 - 0 - 0/0/1
5.) brainbomb - 0 - 0/0/1
8.) Zybodia
8.) peterwiggin
8.) The Czech
8.) Gerry
8.) Octavious
8.) ckroberts
8.) Dariusz
8.) guak
8.) ar

Game 1 was definitely interesting. I'm glad those of you that made it played and didn't drop out or anything like that. That's what kills live games. Good start to the tournament and well done to those of you that snuck into the draw. Perseverance pays off.

Game 2 never started even though a few people joined it. If those of you that don't make game 1 next time would like to make game 2 public, we can definitely do that. I just can't score it in the tournament if we do. I am also open to suggestions for getting everyone involved, though I'm not sure that there's any way to do that. If we're only playing for five weeks and you need to score in three games to be eligible, there is no way to give preference to people that didn't make a game one week. It might be better to simply drop that requirement down to 2 and open game 2 up to the public, but I would love suggestions if anyone has one.

As for the game start time, we can move it to 6 PM EST if there are no objections. Since we all agreed on the 5 PM EST start time, one objection would kills the initiative because that would mean that someone might have to drop out of the tournament that didn't have to before.

Any suggestions are totally welcome, though. Obviously, this is a work in progress and I appreciate patience. There's no perfect system for this, unfortunately.

Well it seems like what would solve this problem is to have one game starting at 6pm EST and one starting a few hours earlier maybe? so that if game 1 finishes, or a couple players get eliminated from game 1, they can join game 2 if they want before the deadline.

It's going to prove difficult to get in 3 games, it seems.

If there were 2 games at 2 different times in day, it wouldn't as difficult. Just saying.

Could even do one on Sunday and one on Saturday

The problem with doing two at completely different times is that it would likely just be the same seven doing both. The staggered start that Yoyo is suggesting would make it more likely new people could get in the second game.

Any of these going to be run in Australian friendly time?

I'm not sure what that means at all, but if the time chaged to 6pm EST, then that would be 8am in Melbourne.

Which is not particularly friendly to those who work or drink copious quantities of alcohol or like morning sex.
Just sayin.

surely you can have sex and play diplomacy at the same time.

Sex doesn't mean the same thing to brainbomb as it does to the rest of us.

I mean I just support hold and the rest is history

Okie dokes, that was a promising start :). The tournament game seemed to go beautifully, and a host of other live games fired up around it.

A question about game two. I noticed a few people leaving it throughout the day. Were those people those who had also signed up to game one deciding two games would be a bit much, or people concluding that it wasn't going to happen and leaving early?

Anyway... on to what didn't work.

There were two failings of the tournament last night. The first and most obvious being the lack of a second game. The second being the signing up for the first game. From my perspective the signing up period started two hours after I went to sleep and effectively finished two hours before I woke up. We have an amusing situation in which the time period the games are played in are designed to make it more attractive for Europeans, but the signing up timing makes it near impossible for Europeans to actually get in :p.

I agree that a staggered start is worthy of a trial run. It may not work, but it has to be worth a try. The first game could be made an hour or two earlier. The second an hour or two later.

Moving the start time of the first game an hour later is a non starter for me. It's just too late in the day, and would force me to withdraw.

" If those of you that don't make game 1 next time would like to make game 2 public, we can definitely do that. I just can't score it in the tournament if we do."

Why not? Why not open the tournament games to none tournament players if it will help get them started? Publish the password an hour before kickoff on the forum, let people know it's tournament standard and any leaving early will be punished, but that if a high quality live game is wanted that they are welcome.

It is not an ideal solution, I admit, but it is a vast improvement over the alternative surely?

I like a lot of these ideas. We can't do everything, obviously, but staggering the games somehow seems more ideal than having both at the same time. We should talk about exactly how to do that. I'll comment more later on when I'm not working, but there's some good ideas here. Keep them flowing.

I wish to officially opine that, in my mind, one of if not all, of the purpose of these live tournaments / clubs is the value-statement: "No game is better than an abortion of a game with NMRs/CDs". Which is why I'd be hesitant to opening them to the public without an Reliability Rating Requirement, especially if they are scored for tournament purposes. No one wants the tournament to turn into "who got a solo because they got more CD's next to them".

My two webDip cents.